Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Rihards]

On 2017.12.24. 16:57, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> Just tested the recent map with Maps.me, road shields look consistent and 
> great now. Thanks Richards!

great news - thank you Ilya for all the work to make osm better :)

> Ilya
> 
>> 21 дек. 2017 г., в 3:26, Rihards  написал(а):
>>
>> On 2017.12.21. 00:41, Rihards wrote:
>>> On 2017.07.11. 19:32, Rihards wrote:
 On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. 
> In Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
>
> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
>
> Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for 
> both A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
> roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
> indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
>
> Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to 
> fix this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network 
> value for A roads?

 thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
 be at the same level.

 we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local

 opinions ?
>>>
>>> looks like we haven't had any objections for 5 months, i started looking
>>> into this change. discovered some V roads marked as network:national -
>>> this won't be a trivial automated edit, will need a bit more manual
>>> attention. still in progress.
>>
>> this is completed now. verification would be appreciated.
>>
>> Ilya, does this resolve the issue with the relation parsing ?
>>
> Ilya-- 
 Rihards-- 
>>> Rihards
>> -- 
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Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Ilya Zverev]

Just tested the recent map with Maps.me, road shields look consistent and great 
now. Thanks Richards!

Ilya

> 21 дек. 2017 г., в 3:26, Rihards  написал(а):
> 
> On 2017.12.21. 00:41, Rihards wrote:
>> On 2017.07.11. 19:32, Rihards wrote:
>>> On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. In 
 Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
 
 http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
 
 Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for 
 both A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
 roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
 indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
 
 Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to 
 fix this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network 
 value for A roads?
>>> 
>>> thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
>>> be at the same level.
>>> 
>>> we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local
>>> 
>>> opinions ?
>> 
>> looks like we haven't had any objections for 5 months, i started looking
>> into this change. discovered some V roads marked as network:national -
>> this won't be a trivial automated edit, will need a bit more manual
>> attention. still in progress.
> 
> this is completed now. verification would be appreciated.
> 
> Ilya, does this resolve the issue with the relation parsing ?
> 
 Ilya-- 
>>> Rihards-- 
>> Rihards
> -- 
> Rihards


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Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Rihards]

On 2017.12.21. 00:41, Rihards wrote:
> On 2017.07.11. 19:32, Rihards wrote:
>> On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. In 
>>> Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
>>>
>>> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
>>>
>>> Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for 
>>> both A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
>>> roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
>>> indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
>>>
>>> Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to 
>>> fix this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network 
>>> value for A roads?
>>
>> thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
>> be at the same level.
>>
>> we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local
>>
>> opinions ?
> 
> looks like we haven't had any objections for 5 months, i started looking
> into this change. discovered some V roads marked as network:national -
> this won't be a trivial automated edit, will need a bit more manual
> attention. still in progress.

this is completed now. verification would be appreciated.

Ilya, does this resolve the issue with the relation parsing ?

>>> Ilya-- 
>>  Rihards-- 
>  Rihards
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Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Rihards]

On 2017.07.11. 19:32, Rihards wrote:
> On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. In 
>> Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
>>
>> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
>>
>> Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for both 
>> A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
>> roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
>> indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
>>
>> Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to fix 
>> this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network value 
>> for A roads?
> 
> thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
> be at the same level.
> 
> we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local
> 
> opinions ?

looks like we haven't had any objections for 5 months, i started looking
into this change. discovered some V roads marked as network:national -
this won't be a trivial automated edit, will need a bit more manual
attention. still in progress.

>> Ilya-- 
>  Rihards-- 
 Rihards

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Re: [Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Rihards]

On 2017.07.11. 18:54, Ilya Zverev wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. In 
> Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:
> 
> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg
> 
> Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for both 
> A and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P 
> roads are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
> indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.
> 
> Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to fix 
> this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network value 
> for A roads?

thanks a lot for spotting this. does not look right - A & P should not
be at the same level.

we should probably change P to lv:regional and V to lv:local

opinions ?

> Ilya-- 
 Rihards

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[Talk-lv] Route relations on latvian roads

[Ilya Zverev]

Hi folks,

I have been investigating the strange case with road shield in maps.me. In 
Latvia they are duplicated in different colors:

http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/4/latvian-shields.jpg

Turns out, in route relations for roads you use network=lv:national for both A 
and P roads and network=lv:regional for V roads. But in 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Latvia#M.C4.93r.C4.B7i P roads 
are called regional and V are local. So basically A and P roads are 
indistinguishable by their network tag, which strips it of meaning.

Should I disable parsing road relations for Latvia, or is it possible to fix 
this issue by retagging all the relations or inventing a new network value for 
A roads?

Ilya
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