Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937

2009-08-19 Thread Marloue Pidor
There are new additions to Mindanao roads some are large data example:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/38478682/history

And there is no good satellite image in this area and I don't find ANY
GPX files from the contributor.

Is this the same person who imported data from roadguide.ph?

murlwe
<-Original Message-> 
>From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
>Sent: 8/17/2009 10:16:48 AM
>To: eppgar...@gmail.com
>Cc: mur...@mail2engineer.com;talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937
>
>Yes, I remember ed's recommendation. Although I can't find the
>discussion in the mailinglist, I also remember I asked the group on
>whether I should remove the POIs. As far as I can recall nobody
>responded (or I may have missed the message).
>
>Update: the user accepted responsibilty for adding roadguide traces
>into osm. I advised the user to remove his/her contribution with
>consideration for a possibility that his/her contributions have been
>merged with other's work. Some may require manual work rather than
>massive reverting.
>
>
>
>On 8/17/09, Ed Garcia  wrote:
>> I remember a bulk update a while back where POIs from roadguide were
added
>> to OSM. Funny thing is, as I have pointed out to Maning then, that
update
>> included several POIs which originally came from contributors of
>> waypoints.ph where it also included some of my "easter eggs" and the
POIs
>> were given tags like they were all contributed by roadguide.
>>
>> I agree, to start with, let's remove the pois or ways that were
tagged as
>> coming from roadguide as we are aware that data from the roadguide
can come
>> from (or allowed to come from) varied sources including tracing from
google
>> earth and other maps and this is not acceptable practice in OSM.
Would
>> also
>> like to point out that data coming straight from contributors of
>> waypoints.ph are almost surely from personal GPS traces and are
>> "OSM-compliant".
>>
>> :>)
>> ed
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Marloue Pidor
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We need to do some repairing jobs now. Remove those contribution
copied
>>> from roadguide.ph. Any other way to mend this error?
>>>
>>> murlwe
>>>
>>> <-Original Message->
>>> >From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
>>> >Sent: 8/17/2009 9:04:20 AM
>>> >To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>> >Subject: Re: [talk-ph]
http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937
>>> >
>>> >Stumbled into this one today:
>>> >http://roadguide.ph/forums/showthread.php?t=937
>>> >
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Re: [talk-ph] GPS logger/receiver on Linux

2009-08-19 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.
Brilliant!
In my case it's:
$ gpsbabel -t -w -i iblue747 -f /dev/rfcomm0 -o gpx -F out.gpx
At least I have made connection with the little bugger now!
I downloaded a completely empty gpx file, which I found a bit strange,
as I did log a couple of routes. Nevertheless, it's a step forward :)
More testing on the trip and when I'm in the Phils.
Ronny.



Jim Morgan wrote:
> Didn't think I'd bother the list with this 
>
> Stolen from http://www.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Wintec_GPSBabel_Usage
>
> =
> Linux
>
> On Linux using USB the command to download tracks and waypoints and convert 
> them to a GPX file looks like this:
>
>  $ gpsbabel -t -w -i wbt -f /dev/ttyUSB0 -o gpx -F out.gpx
>
> The USB device might have a different number - /dev/ttyUSB1 for example.
>
> For Bluetooth, which works out perfectly under Linux, it would look like this:
>
>  $ gpsbabel -t -w -i wbt -f /dev/rfcomm0 -o gpx -F out.gpx
>
> Just like the USB device, the Bluetooth might be /dev/rfcomm1 or similar. It 
> is possible to bind the device to a specific device name by editing 
> /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf. More help on this subject can be found at 
> gpsd.berlios.de.
>
> To just list all waypoints with lat, long, and name use
>
>  $ gpsbabel -w -i wbt -f /dev/rfcomm0 -o csv -F -
>
> The erase option lets you revome the points from the device. For instance you 
> can dowload and remove all points via bluetooth and store them in GPX format 
> in file out.gpx with:
>
>  $ gpsbabel -t -i wbt,erase -o gpx /dev/rfcomm0 out.gpx
>
> Julien Narboux has written a page of instructions for Linux users. 
>
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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-08-19 Thread maning sambale
I would say "fit for purpose" :)

The 1:50 K is relatively accurate in position.  Road curves are a bit
generalized.  But still OK by my standards of navigation.

On 8/19/09, Jim Morgan  wrote:
> Cool. Just out of interest, how accurate was that 1:50k map trace?
>
> Jim
>
> maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 10:07 AM:
>> I edited some portions of Plutocrat's 1:50K topomap traced road.
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2196308
>
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Re: [talk-ph] GPS logger/receiver on Linux

2009-08-19 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.
Jim Morgan wrote:
> Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 10:16 AM:
>   
>> Yep, TangoGPS is good stuff! I got the stable version from their
>> website. Tried it this morning on a short walk. 
>> 
>
> Taking your laptop for a walk ... might be considered as a bit nerdy by some 
> ... :-)
>   
You're joking! I find that perfectly normal :)
Not only that, I was actually walking with my two children as well, one
in the stroller (which had a perfect place for the eee on top, exactly
where I wanted it) and one beside it, who constantly wanted to see the
route we had walked as well. You can imagine explaining the urban canyon
effect to a 3 year old :)
>  
>   
>> I am trying to get mtkbabel (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mtkbabel/)
>> to download tracks from it 
>> 
>
> I seem to recall gpsbabel may help you out here getting the tracks off the 
> unit. If you're lucky and its in a format it understands ... Otherwise I 
> guess it wouldn't be too horrible to install the connection software on a 
> windows box which you could use when you need to pull off data files. 
>   
Reading the docs of gpsbabel revealed that you can only download tracks
via USB cable. I've been trying to do it over bluetooth, so that
explains why I've been out of luck so far. First quick test leaves still
no joy, but this is a work in progress :)
I want to avoid having to maintain a windows box, even on a virtual
machine, just to download GPS tracks. I know that would be a simple
solution, but I'm looking for a good solution, not just *a* solution.
Progress doesn't happen by giving up - that's my excuse :)
The idea is that if I'm on a long trip, I can download the tracks to the
eee when the logger is getting full.
>   
>   
>> I got josm working fine, but I'm a bit unfomfortable with it yet. 
>> 
>
> It really needs a bigger screen than the eeepc to use it well. Same with 
> Mercaartor. So it might be better to use these editors when you're back at 
> home rather than in the field. 
>   
Yep, you're probably right. josm hardly fits on the screen actually,
even after removing the button bar.

> Jim
>  
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Re: [talk-ph] gps traces from a delivery service company

2009-08-19 Thread Jim Morgan
Cool. Just out of interest, how accurate was that 1:50k map trace?

Jim

maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 10:07 AM:
> I edited some portions of Plutocrat's 1:50K topomap traced road.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2196308


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Re: [talk-ph] GPS logger/receiver on Linux

2009-08-19 Thread Jim Morgan
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Wednesday, 19 August, 2009 10:16 AM:
> Yep, TangoGPS is good stuff! I got the stable version from their
> website. Tried it this morning on a short walk. 

Taking your laptop for a walk ... might be considered as a bit nerdy by some 
... :-)
 
> I am trying to get mtkbabel (http://sourceforge.net/projects/mtkbabel/)
> to download tracks from it 

I seem to recall gpsbabel may help you out here getting the tracks off the 
unit. If you're lucky and its in a format it understands ... Otherwise I guess 
it wouldn't be too horrible to install the connection software on a windows box 
which you could use when you need to pull off data files. 
  
> I got josm working fine, but I'm a bit unfomfortable with it yet. 

It really needs a bigger screen than the eeepc to use it well. Same with 
Mercaartor. So it might be better to use these editors when you're back at home 
rather than in the field. 

Jim
 

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