Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread ian lopez
Regarding cleaning up and/or removing some tainted data, it could be a tricky 
one. I did some cleanup in Ashton Fields in Calamba (and 

added landuse and a road stub for future reference); Ponte Verde near the STAR 
tollway interchange in Santo Tomas (where there used to 

be some edits from maning); most of downtown Tiaong and the nearby market area 
(which can be "recovered" by making an actual GPS 

trace in the area, more if necessary); Dolores, Quezon (where I could go and 
make some GPS traces, if my schedule isn't that busy); and the 

Avida residences in the Tayabas/Lucena boundary area (someone had previously 
made an edit over the area). I also made some cleanup 

in the Bicol area - along the stretch of the Pan-Philippine Highway 
(specifically in Naga City, where it is hard to edit when using the online 

editor - epecially if one's computer is very slow and 8 years old and above), 
and some places in Albay.

The problem with some of Anthony's edits is that they have too many nodes in a 
certain way, which is probably bad for routing. The problem 

with some of Deck's edits is that some of the edits he made were probably done 
previously by other contributors (which is the other problem 

caused by some of Anthony's edits). If we are to activiate the revert script on 
those edits, madadamay ang ibang mga edits (other edits will 

be affected by it). For me, It would be best to retrace, remove or transfer 
tags, then delete the questionable nodes and ways, if there were 

some previous edits placed in that area, so that the older (and probably less 
tainted) edits will be there, although under a new node/way 

identification number.

BTW, we're lucky that we don't have to deal with people like RR8. Instead, all 
we need now is some understanding and consensus.



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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale
>  wrote:
>>
>> Some things that worked for Davao:
>> 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event.
>
> Was the separate tutorial session effective? My concern about this is that
> if maximum participation is wanted, then having people commit to attending
> on two separate days might diminish the participation rate.
>
> At best, those who attended the tutorial but not the actual mapping can
> contribute on their own, while those who failed to attend the tutorial but
> showed up on the mapping party day would be needing a crash course on OSM.

murlwe?

Ideally, the tutorial session should prep the participants.



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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
Ahh a clean-up party?  I get it now.  Sounds good to me.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michael Cole  wrote:
> On Friday 18 September 2009 11:34:39 am maning sambale wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Cole  wrote:
>> > Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could
>> > setup shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when
>> > you get back its just a matter of uploading the new data..
>>
>> Sorry. I don't get this message :)  Please expound.
>>
> I dont have a car so the day your having to go out and get more traces, i can
> sit down in a starbucks or somewhere and remove the unwanted edits that the
> people need help on, At least then people like me can go out on the day and
> help but not actually be getting traces but instead be cleaning up the map
> together.
>
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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Cole
On Friday 18 September 2009 11:34:39 am maning sambale wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Cole  wrote:
> > Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could
> > setup shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when
> > you get back its just a matter of uploading the new data..
> 
> Sorry. I don't get this message :)  Please expound.
> 
I dont have a car so the day your having to go out and get more traces, i can 
sit down in a starbucks or somewhere and remove the unwanted edits that the 
people need help on, At least then people like me can go out on the day and 
help but not actually be getting traces but instead be cleaning up the map 
together.

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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Cole  wrote:
> Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could setup
> shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when you get
> back its just a matter of uploading the new data..
Sorry. I don't get this message :)  Please expound.



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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread Michael Cole
Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could setup 
shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when you get 
back its just a matter of uploading the new data..

It gives me something to do within the OSM as i would like to contribute but i 
have not been so far 100% successful, done some but not much..

Regards..
Michael

Also i would like to get some good photos of the lot of you to put up on the 
web so as we all can acknowledge you guys, that have done a fantastic job so 
far..

And yes i still have a GPS unit which i will get to maning ASAP so it can be 
used more effectively..


On Friday 18 September 2009 11:17:46 am maning sambale wrote:
> > The problem is that it's hard to determine which are the edits worth
> > keeping and which are not. I would assume that the edits that appear
> > where there is Yahoo! imagery is valid and those outside are not.
> 
> Correct.  That's I why I am hesitant to do massive revertion (using
> the revert.pl tool).  It is possible we break other people's edits
> when we do automatic revertion.  I suggest we use humans to do the
> reverts.
> 
> He did admitted it came from roadguide.ph so there is no question that
> his edits are not allowed in OSM.  Even if there is yahoo! imagery, I
> believe we can re-trace them using purely yahoo! imagery.
> 
> > Also, we still have those edits from user hellodeck that appear to be
> > traced from Google Maps still lingering in the database.
> 
> I have no concrete proof (user admission) this came from google
> imagery (although I highly suspect it is).  If proven, I suggest we
> remove this one as well.
> 
> > Regards,
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM, maning sambale
> >
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I mentioned this issue already to the talk-ph
> >>
> >> >> For instance this:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.50999&lon=125.9716&zoom=15&layers
> >> >>=B000FTTT
> >> >
> >> > I've already asked him to remove edits coming from roadguide.ph data.
> >> > But he does have some personal trace in Mindanao:
> >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
> >>
> >> Basically, Anthony Balico has been adding data coming from
> >> roadguide.ph.  I flagged his attention over this and he has stopped
> >> doing it and started reverting his edits (since August 17, 2009).
> >>
> >> see the log of his edits here:
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/edits
> >>
> >> The problem is, it's over a month now and this user haven't removed
> >> everything.  I am concerned because the longer the data stays in the
> >> database the more difficult it is to remove.  May I request everyone
> >> to help anthony remove the data he added since april 15 and earlier.
> >> He added more data after april 15, I am assuming this data didn't come
> >> from roadguide already because he has traces uploaded.
> >>
> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
> >>
> >> Normally I encourage newbies to correct their own mistakes (I send
> >> them messages provately) and don't pass the burden to others.
> >> However, anthony's contributions is so extensive and I believe this
> >> requires special attention to the rest of group.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
> The problem is that it's hard to determine which are the edits worth keeping
> and which are not. I would assume that the edits that appear where there is
> Yahoo! imagery is valid and those outside are not.
Correct.  That's I why I am hesitant to do massive revertion (using
the revert.pl tool).  It is possible we break other people's edits
when we do automatic revertion.  I suggest we use humans to do the
reverts.

He did admitted it came from roadguide.ph so there is no question that
his edits are not allowed in OSM.  Even if there is yahoo! imagery, I
believe we can re-trace them using purely yahoo! imagery.

> Also, we still have those edits from user hellodeck that appear to be traced
> from Google Maps still lingering in the database.
I have no concrete proof (user admission) this came from google
imagery (although I highly suspect it is).  If proven, I suggest we
remove this one as well.

> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM, maning sambale
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mentioned this issue already to the talk-ph
>>
>> >> For instance this:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.50999&lon=125.9716&zoom=15&layers=B000FTTT
>> > I've already asked him to remove edits coming from roadguide.ph data.
>> > But he does have some personal trace in Mindanao:
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
>>
>> Basically, Anthony Balico has been adding data coming from
>> roadguide.ph.  I flagged his attention over this and he has stopped
>> doing it and started reverting his edits (since August 17, 2009).
>>
>> see the log of his edits here:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/edits
>>
>> The problem is, it's over a month now and this user haven't removed
>> everything.  I am concerned because the longer the data stays in the
>> database the more difficult it is to remove.  May I request everyone
>> to help anthony remove the data he added since april 15 and earlier.
>> He added more data after april 15, I am assuming this data didn't come
>> from roadguide already because he has traces uploaded.
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
>>
>> Normally I encourage newbies to correct their own mistakes (I send
>> them messages provately) and don't pass the burden to others.
>> However, anthony's contributions is so extensive and I believe this
>> requires special attention to the rest of group.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi maning,

The problem is that it's hard to determine which are the edits worth keeping
and which are not. I would assume that the edits that appear where there is
Yahoo! imagery is valid and those outside are not.

Also, we still have those edits from user hellodeck that appear to be traced
from Google Maps still lingering in the database.

Regards,
Eugene


On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:35 AM, maning sambale  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I mentioned this issue already to the talk-ph
>
> >> For instance this:
> >>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.50999&lon=125.9716&zoom=15&layers=B000FTTT
> > I've already asked him to remove edits coming from roadguide.ph data.
> > But he does have some personal trace in Mindanao:
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
>
> Basically, Anthony Balico has been adding data coming from
> roadguide.ph.  I flagged his attention over this and he has stopped
> doing it and started reverting his edits (since August 17, 2009).
>
> see the log of his edits here:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/edits
>
> The problem is, it's over a month now and this user haven't removed
> everything.  I am concerned because the longer the data stays in the
> database the more difficult it is to remove.  May I request everyone
> to help anthony remove the data he added since april 15 and earlier.
> He added more data after april 15, I am assuming this data didn't come
> from roadguide already because he has traces uploaded.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces
>
> Normally I encourage newbies to correct their own mistakes (I send
> them messages provately) and don't pass the burden to others.
> However, anthony's contributions is so extensive and I believe this
> requires special attention to the rest of group.
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners

2009-09-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Jun,

If the road is significantly divided (either with a center island or
concrete barriers) then this should be modeled in OSM as two oneway=yes ways
in opposite directions.

If there is a through street connecting both sides then they should be
connected to do proper routing. What you're doing is correct.

Keep on mapping!
Eugene


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Jun Martin  wrote:

> Hi, everyone!
>
> I've noticed that the parts of McArthur Highway in the City of San
> Fernando, Pampanga (in the vicinity of the Dolores Flyover) where the
> highway is split into 2 one-way roads are not properly connected to the
> side streets.  I've taken the liberty of connecting side streets to BOTH
> one-way roads, where such is applicable (McArthur Highway for the most
> part has no center island but has been divided in the middle in some
> parts of the city).
>
> At this time (September 2009, for future reference), EDSA is the rule
> (or is it the exception?) where side-streets USUALLY are not connected
> to both one-way sides, but some main avenues do cross both sides of EDSA
> and are therefore connected to both.
>
> Perhaps you know of ways that are similar to the portion of McArthur
> Highway that I've mentioned above and you might be able to correct the
> connections.
>
> I noticed this issue because my Nuvi keeps telling me to turn right on
> McArthur and then make a U-turn at some point (the opposite way is not
> connected to our village's main road) because my route is to turn left
> at McArthur outside our village.
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[talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi,

I mentioned this issue already to the talk-ph

>> For instance this:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.50999&lon=125.9716&zoom=15&layers=B000FTTT
> I've already asked him to remove edits coming from roadguide.ph data.
> But he does have some personal trace in Mindanao:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces

Basically, Anthony Balico has been adding data coming from
roadguide.ph.  I flagged his attention over this and he has stopped
doing it and started reverting his edits (since August 17, 2009).

see the log of his edits here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/edits

The problem is, it's over a month now and this user haven't removed
everything.  I am concerned because the longer the data stays in the
database the more difficult it is to remove.  May I request everyone
to help anthony remove the data he added since april 15 and earlier.
He added more data after april 15, I am assuming this data didn't come
from roadguide already because he has traces uploaded.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/traces

Normally I encourage newbies to correct their own mistakes (I send
them messages provately) and don't pass the burden to others.
However, anthony's contributions is so extensive and I believe this
requires special attention to the rest of group.



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Re: [talk-ph] Isabela Mapping Marathon

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
Just to inform you that this mapping project have been sidelined for
the moment.  Will keep everyone updated when we have more news on
this.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:57 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Within the coming months, we will be conducting a series of mapping
> parties for several towns in Isabela, Philippines.
> http://osm.org/go/42jO3Yy-
>
> The grand goals are the following:
>    * To assist the Isabela LGUs in collecting geospatial data for the Province
>    * Teach local college students in data collection and editing
>    * Upload all data in Openstreetmap
>    * Prepare poster maps for each town
>
> These areas are mostly rural, mountainous and the participants are
> most likely unaware of Openstreetmap, GPS or even Google Map.  Each
> mapping workshop will be two days, participants will be provided with
> GPS units.  At the end of each day, all data will be compiled and
> uploaded to OSM.
>
> I need some tips/advice on how to run this event.
> What materials should we prepare?
> What concepts should we teach?
> Worst case scenarios we should look out for?
> etc.
>
> The GPS units and laptops will be donated to the local university in
> order to sustain map updates.  Through this project, we hope we can
> plant the seed of OSM enthusiasm in the local community.
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread maning sambale
> Bdw, I will have a talk on Sept. 19 about OSM for the Software Freedom Day
> at the University of the Immaculate Conception in Davao City. I will try to
I too will be in SFD 09 in UST.  I will try to do some osm
evangelizing as well.  Although my primary goal is for open source
geospatial and somebody who can teach me basic Python :)



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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale  wrote:

> Some things that worked for Davao:
> 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event.
>

Was the separate tutorial session effective? My concern about this is that
if maximum participation is wanted, then having people commit to attending
on two separate days might diminish the participation rate.

At best, those who attended the tutorial but not the actual mapping can
contribute on their own, while those who failed to attend the tutorial but
showed up on the mapping party day would be needing a crash course on OSM.
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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread Marloue Pidor
It's a good idea! We could be the first to do a "simultaneous mapping
party". We are planning to map Samal Island as to when, we just don't
know yet. 

Bdw, I will have a talk on Sept. 19 about OSM for the Software Freedom
Day at the University of the Immaculate Conception in Davao City. I will
try to open to them the possibility of having a "simultaneous mapping
party" in Manila and Davao.

Best,

murlwe


<-Original Message-> 
>From: ian lopez [ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com]
>Sent: 9/17/2009 8:36:50 PM
>To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
>
>
>We could try a simultaneous mapping party in Manila and in Davao (and
possibly
>in some place within the Philippines) sometime between November of this
year
>and February of next year. Just a question: Was there an event that
sounds like
>a simultaneous mapping party in multiple locations (possibly in the
same area)
>in the same day/week?
>
>BTW, there are other spots with cloud cover and/or old data in Yahoo's
Satellite
>Images:
>
>* Teachers Village, some areas in North & East Triangle and Piñahan
(since the
>images for the SM North EDSA-Trinoma-Eton Centris areas
>are out of date since possibly the early to middle part of the 2000's),
a spot
>somewhere in the PhilAm-West Triangle-Del Monte area,
>Roxas District, Barangay Santol, some areas near New Manila, and some
areas in
>the UP Campus-New Era-Culiat area in Quezon City
>* Some areas in Sampaloc and Santa Mesa, BASECO in Manila
>* Southern and central San Juan City (though most of the roads are
already laid
>out, I believe that we might have missed some streets)
>* The northern part of Ortigas Center (Barangay San Antonio) in Pasig
City
>* (possibly) the Filinvest Corporate City/Filincity area in Muntinlupa
City
>
>To be honest, I just hope that at least 12 or so "experienced"
contributors will
>join the said mapping party, and share their experiences with each
other (and
>possibly
>with potential contributors).
>
>--- On Thu, 9/17/09, maning sambale  wrote:
>
>
>From: maning sambale 
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
>To: "George Tujan" 
>Cc: "OSM" 
>Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:39 PM
>
>
>venue for:
>1. pre-mapping party lecture and demostration - need pc's or at least
>a good internet connectivity
>2. mapping party proper - good beer :)
>
>any other ideas?
>
>On 9/17/09, George Tujan  wrote:
>> @maning: the venue can also be the sponsor para isa na lang, and if
you can
>> have media converage mas ok :)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale
>> >> wrote:
>>
>>> When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some
sponsor
>>> request to people?
>>> What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel,
>>> venue)?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale
>>>  wrote:
>>> >>> so I think it's time we
>>> >>> do another one and I suggest that this time we do it in Metro
Manila
>>> >>> to
>>> get
>>> >>> more participants. (And try to better the event management
skills of
>>> the
>>> >>> Davao pips when they did their Davao Mapping Party. ;-)
>>> > Some things that worked for Davao:
>>> > 1. Enough time and announcement before the event.
>>> > 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event.
>>> > 3. Sponsors, banners, etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> While Metro Manila is covered by Yahoo! imagery, there are
plenty of
>>> places
>>> >>> where a "virgin" GPS survey is possible. Here are some places I
can
>>> think
>>> >>> of:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 1. Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. The Yahoo! imagery here is
>>> outdated so
>>> >>> this is a good spot to survey. The problem is that this spot is
too
>>> small.
>>> >>> But we could fill in the time with presentations if we were to
target
>>> >>> newbies.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 2. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City)..
Yahoo!
>>> imagery is
>>> >>> outdated too. Same concerns as above.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 3. Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. This area is covered by clouds
in
>>> Yahoo! so
>>> >>> GPS surveying is definitely needed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> 4. Combine all of the above as separate slices if the number of
>>> participants
>>> >>> is high.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Any other suggestions? 


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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM, ian lopez  wrote:

> BTW, there are other spots with cloud cover and/or old data in Yahoo's
> Satellite Images:
> * The northern part of Ortigas Center (Barangay San Antonio) in Pasig City
>

The roads in Ortigas Center core area are complete. The only thing missing
are the details in the service roads of Shangri-la Plaza Mall and Edsa
Shangri-la Hotel. What is needed are buildings just like what Neil did with
the Makati CBD.


> * (possibly) the Filinvest Corporate City/Filincity area in Muntinlupa City
>

The roads in Filinvest Corporate City is pretty up-to-date. The only major
area not covered is the Palms Pointe subdivision, which is understandable
because it is private (but I haven't tried going in).
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Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-09-17 Thread ian lopez
We could try a simultaneous mapping party in Manila and in Davao (and possibly 
in some place within the Philippines) sometime between November of this year
and February of next year. Just a question: Was there an event that sounds like 
a simultaneous mapping party in multiple locations (possibly in the same area)
in the same day/week?

BTW, there are other spots with cloud cover and/or old data in Yahoo's 
Satellite Images:

* Teachers Village, some areas in North & East Triangle and Piñahan (since the 
images for the SM North EDSA-Trinoma-Eton Centris areas
are out of date since possibly the early to middle part of the 2000's), a spot 
somewhere in the PhilAm-West Triangle-Del Monte area,
Roxas District, Barangay Santol, some areas near New Manila, and some areas in 
the UP Campus-New Era-Culiat area in Quezon City
* Some areas in Sampaloc and Santa Mesa, BASECO in Manila
* Southern and central San Juan City (though most of the roads are already laid 
out, I believe that we might have missed some streets)
* The northern part of Ortigas Center (Barangay San Antonio) in Pasig City
* (possibly) the Filinvest Corporate City/Filincity area in Muntinlupa City

To be honest, I just hope that at least 12 or so "experienced" contributors 
will join the said mapping party, and share their experiences with each other 
(and possibly
with potential contributors).

--- On Thu, 9/17/09, maning sambale  wrote:

From: maning sambale 
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
To: "George Tujan" 
Cc: "OSM" 
Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:39 PM

venue for:
1. pre-mapping party lecture and demostration - need pc's or at least
a good internet connectivity
2. mapping party proper - good beer :)

any other ideas?

On 9/17/09, George Tujan  wrote:
> @maning: the venue can also be the sponsor para isa na lang, and if you can
> have media converage mas ok :)
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale
> > wrote:
>
>> When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some sponsor
>> request to people?
>> What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel,
>> venue)?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale
>>  wrote:
>> >>> so I think it's time we
>> >>> do another one and I suggest that this time we do it in Metro Manila
>> >>> to
>> get
>> >>> more participants. (And try to better the event management skills of
>> the
>> >>> Davao pips when they did their Davao Mapping Party. ;-)
>> > Some things that worked for Davao:
>> > 1. Enough time and announcement before the event.
>> > 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event.
>> > 3. Sponsors, banners, etc.
>> >
>> >
>> >>> While Metro Manila is covered by Yahoo! imagery, there are plenty of
>> places
>> >>> where a "virgin" GPS survey is possible. Here are some places I can
>> think
>> >>> of:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. The Yahoo! imagery here is
>> outdated so
>> >>> this is a good spot to survey. The problem is that this spot is too
>> small.
>> >>> But we could fill in the time with presentations if we were to target
>> >>> newbies.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City). Yahoo!
>> imagery is
>> >>> outdated too. Same concerns as above.
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. This area is covered by clouds in
>> Yahoo! so
>> >>> GPS surveying is definitely needed.
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. Combine all of the above as separate slices if the number of
>> participants
>> >>> is high.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any other suggestions?



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