Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. perhaps through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons (andrew turner cc'd) 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be stood up .. but is there widely available net access right now? This is one of the useful things I see we can do. Set-up openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need. Food , electricity, water, garbage collection, etc. After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a long haul. We nned to supply info to public utility operators what areas need immediate action. I can ask other people to provide summary reports of the data gathered from openstreetbug to respective utility companies. People with internet connection can help report these areas. Most of them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info for utilty companies to respond strategically. Would an SMS based application be a better fit for the situation? We'd only need a PH mobile phone set up to FrontlineSMS over there, and we could set up Ushahidi anywhere This is also possible. But don't how difficult to set-up. - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:59:04 PM Subject: Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila mikel, Can the Humanitarian OSM Team, help us? cheers, maning -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM Subject: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org, osm-talk t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, In case people in the international community didn't know, the Philippines (capital and surrounding provinces) were badly hit by tropical cylcone ondoy/kestana the past week [1]. My family was affected as well, but we are OK now. Current efforts are now towards search, rescue and relief. As a mapping community I feel we need to do something and contribute. We need to document whatever information we can compile so that volunteers, relief workers, and government agencies can respond to the needs. The recovery efforts may take a few more weeks and we need to sustain activities to restore vital public utilities to affected areas. Some members of the OSM-PH has started creating webmap based on OSM to document what is currently happening on the ground [2]. I appeal to the whole OSM community to help us in this project. What we currently need are: 1. A temporary server space we can use. 2. Create mashups on related information about the disaster (osm data for Metro Manila and adjacent provinces is good enough as a map background), news feeds, location of evacuation sites, missing persons list. 3. An interface in which users can report what is happening on the ground, (I'm thinking of an openstreetbug interface) i.e. This street in unpassable due to floods. This street needs water. This street has no electricity. Too much garbage on this street please collect now. This way communities can report problems
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. perhaps through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons (andrew turner cc'd) 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be stood up .. but is there widely available net access right now? This is one of the useful things I see we can do. Set-up openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need. Food , electricity, water, garbage collection, etc. After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a long haul. We nned to supply info to public utility operators what areas need immediate action. I can ask other people to provide summary reports of the data gathered from openstreetbug to respective utility companies. People with internet connection can help report these areas. Most of them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info for utilty companies to respond strategically. Would an SMS based application be a better fit for the situation? We'd only need a PH mobile phone set up to FrontlineSMS over there, and we could set up Ushahidi anywhere This is also possible. But don't how difficult to set-up. - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:59:04 PM Subject: Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila mikel, Can the Humanitarian OSM Team, help us? cheers, maning -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM Subject: need
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. Apologies, if I made such impression (probably I got too attached to the flooding experience which gave me the urged to do something about the situation), but I know OSM and what it can do. If I know about other webmapping possibilities I could have gone that route. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. Which some of us is doing, including myself: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/edits OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. Yes, I agree. But please don't douse cold water to other ideas as well. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. perhaps through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons (andrew turner cc'd) 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be stood up .. but is there widely available net access right now? This is one of the useful things I see we can do. Set-up openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need. Food , electricity, water, garbage collection, etc. After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a long haul. We nned to supply info to public utility operators what areas need immediate action. I can ask other people to provide summary reports of the data gathered from openstreetbug to respective utility companies. People with internet connection can help report these areas. Most of them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info for utilty companies to respond strategically. Would an SMS based application be a better fit for the situation? We'd only need a PH mobile phone set up to FrontlineSMS over there, and we could set up Ushahidi anywhere This is also possible.
[talk-ph] Fwd: Fwd: [waypointsdotph] Red Cross Needs your help
Louie called me again to request more data on reliable info on evac sites. Please provide more info and send them directly via text to louie. He lost his phone during a rescue effort. But he still using the same number. message sent to waypointsdotph ... forwarding it to you guys as maybe even if you can not get the coordinates via GPS, if you know of such evacuation centers, maybe you can approximate the coordinates from maps or from our own OSM data. ed -- Forwarded message -- From: lrgalvez2000 lrgal...@pldtdsl.net Date: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM Subject: [waypointsdotph] Red Cross Needs your help To: waypointsdo...@yahoogroups.com Hi guys! I'm Louie Galvez and I'm one of the Directors of the Red Cross Rizal Chapter. We are in need of the waypoints of Evacuation centers. If you have one, please text the info to 0917-555 5574. Pls do not email since I won't be able to check my email. Pls text: 1) Your name, 2) Name of Evacuation Site, 3) Coordinates (in h.d format pls), 4) If possible number of families affected 5) and if they already received any assistance in the area. A Mapsource file will just be as good. Thanks Louie Visit the WaypointsDotPH website: http://www.waypoints.ph You can contribute GPS data here: www.waypoints.ph/invite.php You can follow website developments on twitter.com/waypointsdotphYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/waypointsdotph/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:waypointsdotph-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:waypointsdotph-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: waypointsdotph-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
As requested, I've set up an OpenStreetBugs instance for collecting reports in the Phillipines If anyone wants to work on the code, contacting me directly, and I can give you credentials to access the site. http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/ I totally agree that we don't have an OSM agenda. If there's places where OSM tech can help, great. Generally we have an awesome community spirit, so we can pitch on whatever project is making moves. That said, happy to try and install other pieces of software if needed. -Mikel From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:59:56 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. perhaps through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons (andrew turner cc'd) 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be stood up .. but is there widely available net access right now? This is one of the useful things I see we can do. Set-up openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need. Food , electricity, water, garbage collection, etc. After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a long haul. We nned to supply info to public utility operators what areas need immediate action. I can ask other people to provide summary reports of the data gathered from openstreetbug to respective utility companies. People with internet connection can help report these areas. Most of them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info for utilty companies to respond strategically.
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
It's totally possible .. that's just an OpenLayers instance, in the index.html of the site. Anyone want to configure openlayers? If no one steps up, I can try to add the KML from ondoymanila later on today. Shapefiles .. can that be converted to something like KML, GeoRSS, or GeoJSON? - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:03:36 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Thanks! Is it possible to add more layers? Maybe we can incorporate the KML generated by: http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home I also have a shapefile showing polygon provided by unosat. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: As requested, I've set up an OpenStreetBugs instance for collecting reports in the Phillipines If anyone wants to work on the code, contacting me directly, and I can give you credentials to access the site. http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/ I totally agree that we don't have an OSM agenda. If there's places where OSM tech can help, great. Generally we have an awesome community spirit, so we can pitch on whatever project is making moves. That said, happy to try and install other pieces of software if needed. -Mikel From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:59:56 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one.
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: It's totally possible .. that's just an OpenLayers instance, in the index.html of the site. Anyone want to configure openlayers? If no one steps up, I can try to add the KML from ondoymanila later on today. The ondoymanila kml is very large would be best to limit number given a specific zoom level Shapefiles .. can that be converted to something like KML, GeoRSS, or GeoJSON? OK I'll send you the KML of flood maps Please send me some credentials so that I can edit the html at the very least. - Original Message From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com; osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 10:03:36 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Thanks! Is it possible to add more layers? Maybe we can incorporate the KML generated by: http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home I also have a shapefile showing polygon provided by unosat. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: As requested, I've set up an OpenStreetBugs instance for collecting reports in the Phillipines If anyone wants to work on the code, contacting me directly, and I can give you credentials to access the site. http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/ I totally agree that we don't have an OSM agenda. If there's places where OSM tech can help, great. Generally we have an awesome community spirit, so we can pitch on whatever project is making moves. That said, happy to try and install other pieces of software if needed. -Mikel From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:59:56 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful.
[talk-ph] Ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
First of all, I'm happy all of you are ok. It might be a little off topic here, but I want to share some links to/from a typhoon information site I discovered several years ago : http://www.typhoon2000.ph/ There is another typhoon most probably passing north of Luzon : http://www.typhoon2000.ph/activetrack.gif I really hope it will not bring too much rain this weekend :-( Some sat images of Ondoy rainfall : http://www.eorc.jaxa.jp/TRMM/NRTtyphoon/ts0917W_e.htm Cheers, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
I have tried looking at the Sahana and the Google Site efforts. The Sahana software isn't very user friendly while the existing data in the Google Site effort doesn't seem to get updated. I'm actually at a loss on how to help with their efforts. I'm also not sure if both groups have tried coordinating with each other. Anyway, I've added the Google landing page for ondoy in the wiki: http://www.google.com/landing/typhoon-ondoy.html It contains a webmap with 4 layers: Road condition, Donation centers, Situation map, Missing persons. * The data for the Donation centers layer seem to come from this map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=ensource=embedmsa=0msid=114275963314561391621.000474b14dc5c675ed8b5 * The data for the Situation map and Road conditions layers seem to come from this map: http://apps.mapspread.com/a/google/ondoylocator#p3505-703 * The data for the Missing persons layer comes from the ondoymanila Google Site On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. Apologies, if I made such impression (probably I got too attached to the flooding experience which gave me the urged to do something about the situation), but I know OSM and what it can do. If I know about other webmapping possibilities I could have gone that route. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. Which some of us is doing, including myself: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/edits OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. Yes, I agree. But please don't douse cold water to other ideas as well. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those
Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila
Everyone please try and test. So far: bug reporting looks OK gpx export ok rss ok Would be good if: - initial zoom is metro manila - incorporate other kmls lying around - improve text in the front page (what info bugs should be added, how they can get the data, etc) - print function (I tried printing the page, no map appears.) - a separate page for rss links to a specific municipality's approximate bounding box Big thanks to Mikel. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: As requested, I've set up an OpenStreetBugs instance for collecting reports in the Phillipines If anyone wants to work on the code, contacting me directly, and I can give you credentials to access the site. http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/ I totally agree that we don't have an OSM agenda. If there's places where OSM tech can help, great. Generally we have an awesome community spirit, so we can pitch on whatever project is making moves. That said, happy to try and install other pieces of software if needed. -Mikel From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:59:56 AM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data involved. We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an emergency situation. What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM map data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal areas of Laguna de Bay. OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated points. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups on possible collaboration. It seems a lot of work has been done already by http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my extinct says there is). Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) All my thoughts are in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we as a group can contribute. cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have updated the wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add more ideas on how we can help. At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected areas: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates cheers, maning On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ michael cole Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the meantime, please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: How much space you need on server? Regards Michael Cole. On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: Hi, Just got back online. On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Are you on Skype/IM? Skype: mikelmaron gtalk: mikel.maron 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's in the US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I can do with this data. I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the Philippines project page, or subpage to the HOT page I'll start working on this one. We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. perhaps through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons (andrew turner cc'd) 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be stood up .. but is there widely available net access right now? This is one of the useful things
