I have tried looking at the Sahana and the Google Site efforts. The Sahana software isn't very user friendly while the existing data in the Google Site effort doesn't seem to get updated.
I'm actually at a loss on how to help with their efforts. I'm also not sure if both groups have tried coordinating with each other. Anyway, I've added the Google landing page for ondoy in the wiki: http://www.google.com/landing/typhoon-ondoy.html It contains a webmap with 4 layers: Road condition, Donation centers, Situation map, Missing persons. * The data for the Donation centers layer seem to come from this map: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&source=embed&msa=0&msid=114275963314561391621.000474b14dc5c675ed8b5 * The data for the Situation map and Road conditions layers seem to come from this map: http://apps.mapspread.com/a/google/ondoylocator#p3505-703 * The data for the Missing persons layer comes from the ondoymanila Google Site On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:39 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com>wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:59 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data > involved. > > We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an > emergency > > situation. > Apologies, if I made such impression (probably I got too attached to > the flooding experience which gave me the urged to do something about > the situation), but I know OSM and what it can do. If I know about > other webmapping possibilities I could have gone that route. > > > What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM > map > > data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a lesser > > degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the coastal > > areas of Laguna de Bay. > Which some of us is doing, including myself: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/edits > > > OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated > > points. > > Yes, I agree. But please don't douse cold water to other ideas as well. > > > > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale < > emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Just additional updates. I have initiated contacts with other groups > >> on possible collaboration. > >> > >> It seems a lot of work has been done already by > >> http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home. See our discussion > >> here: > >> > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy > >> > >> I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my > >> extinct says there is). > >> > >> Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap: > >> http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/- > >> But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility > >> (roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.) > >> > >> All my thoughts are in the wiki: > >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy > >> > >> Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we > >> as a group can contribute. > >> > >> cheers, > >> maning > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale > >> <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I have updated the wikipage: > >> > > >> > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy > >> > > >> > I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist. Please add > >> > more ideas on how we can help. > >> > At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected > areas: > >> > > >> > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates > >> > > >> > cheers, > >> > maning > >> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale > >> > <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> @ michael cole > >> >> Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us. In the > meantime, > >> >> please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected. > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole <colemic...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> How much space you need on server? > >> >>> > >> >>> Regards Michael Cole. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote: > >> >>>> Hi, > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Just got back online. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron < > mikel_ma...@yahoo.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>> > Are you on Skype/IM? > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Skype: mikelmaron > >> >>>> > gtalk: mikel.maron > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if it's > >> >>>> > in the > >> >>>> > US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Any server would be very useful. We don't have a domain at the > >> >>>> moment. Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used. > >> >>>> @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK? Please help get this going. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Yes, mashups would be helpful. I just got a mapinfo file of the > >> >>>> extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research. I'll see what I > >> >>>> can do with this data. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the > >> >>>> > Philippines > >> >>>> > project page, or subpage to the HOT page > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I'll start working on this one. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow .. > >> >>>> > perhaps > >> >>>> > through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons > (andrew > >> >>>> > turner > >> >>>> > cc'd) > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be > stood > >> >>>> > up .. > >> >>>> > but is there widely available net access right now? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This is one of the useful things I see we can do. Set-up > >> >>>> openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need. Food > , > >> >>>> electricity, water, garbage collection, etc. > >> >>>> After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a > >> >>>> long haul. We nned to supply info to public utility operators what > >> >>>> areas need immediate action. I can ask other people to provide > >> >>>> summary reports of the data gathered from "openstreetbug" to > >> >>>> respective utility companies. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> People with internet connection can help report these areas. Most > of > >> >>>> them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info > for > >> >>>> utilty companies to respond strategically. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Would an SMS based application be a better fit for the situation? > >> >>>> > We'd > >> >>>> > only need a PH mobile phone set up to FrontlineSMS over there, > and > >> >>>> > we > >> >>>> > could set up Ushahidi anywhere > >> >>>> > >> >>>> This is also possible. But don't how difficult to set-up. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > ----- Original Message ---- > >> >>>> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> > To: Mikel Maron <mikel_ma...@yahoo.com> > >> >>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:59:04 PM > >> >>>> > Subject: Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood > victims > >> >>>> > in > >> >>>> > Metro Manila > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > mikel, > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Can the Humanitarian OSM Team, help us? > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > cheers, > >> >>>> > maning > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >>>> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> > >> >>>> > Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM > >> >>>> > Subject: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in > >> >>>> > Metro > >> >>>> > Manila To: osm-ph <talk-ph@openstreetmap.org>, osm-talk > >> >>>> > <t...@openstreetmap.org> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Hi, > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > In case people in the international community didn't know, the > >> >>>> > Philippines (capital and surrounding provinces) were badly hit by > >> >>>> > tropical cylcone ondoy/kestana the past week [1]. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > My family was affected as well, but we are OK now. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Current efforts are now towards search, rescue and relief. As a > >> >>>> > mapping community I feel we need to do something and contribute. > >> >>>> > We > >> >>>> > need to document whatever information we can compile so that > >> >>>> > volunteers, relief workers, and government agencies can respond > to > >> >>>> > the > >> >>>> > needs. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > The recovery efforts may take a few more weeks and we need to > >> >>>> > sustain > >> >>>> > activities to restore vital public utilities to affected areas. > >> >>>> > Some > >> >>>> > members of the OSM-PH has started creating webmap based on OSM to > >> >>>> > document what is currently happening on the ground [2]. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > I appeal to the whole OSM community to help us in this project. > >> >>>> > What > >> >>>> > we currently need are: > >> >>>> > 1. A temporary server space we can use. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > 2. Create mashups on related information about the disaster (osm > >> >>>> > data > >> >>>> > for Metro Manila and adjacent provinces is good enough as a map > >> >>>> > background), news feeds, location of evacuation sites, missing > >> >>>> > persons > >> >>>> > list. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > 3. An interface in which users can report what is happening on > the > >> >>>> > ground, (I'm thinking of an openstreetbug interface) > >> >>>> > i.e. This street in unpassable due to floods. This street needs > >> >>>> > water. This street has no electricity. Too much garbage on this > >> >>>> > street please collect now. > >> >>>> > This way communities can report problems and hopefully close > >> >>>> > "bugs". > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > I lack the technical skills to do this but I am willing to > >> >>>> > coordinate > >> >>>> > efforts in some areas and collect field data around my mapping > >> >>>> > area. > >> >>>> > Please help us do this project. The hope is the information we > >> >>>> > gather > >> >>>> > and synthesize would be helpful. > >> >>>> > We do not need anything sophisticated at the moment we just need > >> >>>> > something running ASAP. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > Thanks in advance. > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Ketsana_%282009%29 > >> >>>> > [2] http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/42152 > >> >>>> > -- > >> >>>> > cheers, > >> >>>> > maning > >> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> >>>> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> >>>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > -- > >> >>>> > cheers, > >> >>>> > maning > >> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> >>>> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> >>>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> talk-ph mailing list > >> >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >> >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> cheers, > >> >> maning > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > cheers, > >> > maning > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> cheers, > >> maning > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> talk-ph mailing list > >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > -- > > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > ------------------------------------------------------ > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com
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