Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2011-02-09 Thread Axel Kollmorgen

On 2011-02-09 15:40, maning sambale wrote:

I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
tag. The db should be a bit smaller now.


there are some remaining (palawan, cagayan, quezon, ...). removing them 
now (including 'is_in:country' and 'is_in:country_code'): 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/axk/edits .


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Re: [talk-ph] RFC re-tag Halsema Highway from primary to trunk

2011-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
This seems sensible. I agree with this proposal and I think Rally also
has the same thoughts regarding trunk highways.


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems like most, if not all, would agree to the following guidelines:

 -- trunk roads would be the town-to-town roads that crosses provincial
 boundaries.

 - should also make all roads directly linking town to town as primary
 highways

 what think guys?


 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:53 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
 wrote:

 sounds like trunk hunting to me :P
 trunks are visible at a certain zoom level on my nuvi and mapsource...
 zooming in will reveal the primaries.
 there are others out there should be upgraded to be visible to get the
 idea of general route to take
 btw, i'm browsing my off-line map and noticed pan-philippine highway and
 sometimes it's maharlika somewhere
 near camarines norte

 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Recalling this discussion ... in the same light, shouldn't we upgrade
  the
  Bagabag - Bontoc road as trunk too since it connects Nueva Vizcaya -
  Ifugao
  - Mountain Province?  And it passes through the provincial capitols
  too.

 +1 for me

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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
Spratlys. :-P


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock hayloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.

 I used the map available here :
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png

 I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a best
 guess for the points.

 Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.

 Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
 automatically.

 If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is much
 faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at 100%
 CPU usage.

 Cheers, Ian

 P.S.

 I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
 revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just got an
 error :-( So I left it as it is.

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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
The borders are actually based on a treaty defined by the United
States when they bought the Philippine islands and are specified by
coordinates. You can learn more from here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/aplpj/articles/APLPJ_10.1_bautista.pdf

The problem is that those coordinates are not in WGS84 and we don't
know what geodetic system was used.

Here's an older discussion on this mailing list about the border:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001876.html


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Ian Haylock hayloc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Actually the part of the border covering the Spratly Islands has been there
 for years, that's why I cant understand why no-one has finished the border
 before now.

 Though it did take me hours to find that one map showing the border, maybe
 everyone else just gave up looking.

 Cheers, Ian

 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
 Spratlys. :-P


 On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock hayloc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
 
  I used the map available here :
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
 
  I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a
  best
  guess for the points.
 
  Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
 
  Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
  automatically.
 
  If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is
  much
  faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at
  100%
  CPU usage.
 
  Cheers, Ian
 
  P.S.
 
  I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
  revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just
  got an
  error :-( So I left it as it is.
 
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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2011-02-09 Thread maning sambale
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Axel Kollmorgen akollmor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2011-02-09 15:40, maning sambale wrote:

 I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
 tag. The db should be a bit smaller now.

Let me correct myself:
I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
*in nodes/points*

 there are some remaining (palawan, cagayan, quezon, ...). removing them now
 (including 'is_in:country' and 'is_in:country_code'):
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/axk/edits .
Great!
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi,

Woah! 31 pages, I'm not that interested :-)

Anyway feel free to edit the border, and remove the Spratley's if you wish.

I had thought Wikipedia would have nice maps of all the countries borders,
and lists of the co-ordinates, yet here we are in the 21st Century and
people are still fighting over borders.

Cheers, Ian

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 The borders are actually based on a treaty defined by the United
 States when they bought the Philippine islands and are specified by
 coordinates. You can learn more from here:
 http://www.hawaii.edu/aplpj/articles/APLPJ_10.1_bautista.pdf

 The problem is that those coordinates are not in WGS84 and we don't
 know what geodetic system was used.

 Here's an older discussion on this mailing list about the border:
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001876.html


 On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Ian Haylock hayloc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi,
 
  Actually the part of the border covering the Spratly Islands has been
 there
  for years, that's why I cant understand why no-one has finished the
 border
  before now.
 
  Though it did take me hours to find that one map showing the border,
 maybe
  everyone else just gave up looking.
 
  Cheers, Ian
 
  On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
  Spratlys. :-P
 
 
  On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock hayloc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Hi,
  
   I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
  
   I used the map available here :
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
  
   I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did
 a
   best
   guess for the points.
  
   Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
  
   Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
   automatically.
  
   If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering
 is
   much
   faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at
   100%
   CPU usage.
  
   Cheers, Ian
  
   P.S.
  
   I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried
 to
   revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just
   got an
   error :-( So I left it as it is.
  
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[talk-ph] GPS co-ordinates on Vcard

2011-02-09 Thread Jim Morgan
Just a random thought ... 

It struck me that a very useful application for restaurants, bars etc, would be 
to put their Lat/Long co-ordinates on a webpage, in a format that would allow 
them to be imported into people's GPS units. In the same way as Vcard allows 
you to do with addresses. 

Any ideas on how this might happen? Perhaps this is more suited to the main OSM 
list. 

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Re: [talk-ph] GPS co-ordinates on Vcard

2011-02-09 Thread maning sambale
There is a spec for attaching location in html:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_URI

see also: http://geourl.org/

vcard has also added the GEO spec:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-vcarddav-vcardrev-11#section-6.5.2

There is also a firefox extension that can read the geolocation in
html.  It should be easy to create a firefox extension to open an OSM
map parsing the location from the html.


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
 Just a random thought ...

 It struck me that a very useful application for restaurants, bars etc, would 
 be to put their Lat/Long co-ordinates on a webpage, in a format that would 
 allow them to be imported into people's GPS units. In the same way as Vcard 
 allows you to do with addresses.

 Any ideas on how this might happen? Perhaps this is more suited to the main 
 OSM list.

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[talk-ph] overlapping bing imagery

2011-02-09 Thread maning sambale
Is there a way to un-pack overlapping bing imagery?  See example of
SCTEX here:
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=10.401683281039183lon=123.99914076328338zoom=18

The more recent image is under an older data.  There is probably a
significant overlap underneath such as Cebu.

In the case of Cebu, the more recent image (june 2009) overlaps
entirely with the old (oct 2004).  Which is good.
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=10.401683281039183lon=123.99914076328338zoom=18

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