Re: [talk-ph] Request for clarification on road tagging guidelines

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Lavanya,

I personally would tag this the same as the side street and not the link
version of the major road.

My reason is: imagine if the side street actually goes through the major
road to the other side. To me it makes logical sense that the minor street
retains the characteristics such as name and type on its entire length and
not be suddenly interrupted just because it crosses a major street. I then
use the same logic even if the minor street ends on the major street like
in your example.

But I know that other people have different opinions on this and you can
see both types of tagging worldwide. I say just leave things as they are
and only change them if you have compelling reasons to do so such as local
road and traffic conditions. For example, if more drivers use this bit of
road to transfer between the major and minor road then tag it as minor. But
if more drivers use it to make u-turns on the major road then making it a
major link road makes sense.

~Eugene



On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 11:45 AM grab osm via talk-ph <
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org wrote:

> Apologize Erwin.
>
> Here are the further details of our question.
>
> When a way segment that connects to a Major road, please suggest if the
> the connector should have same classification as the way segment or that of
> a Major Road with link attribute assigned
>
> Below is an example:
> [image: image]
> 
> Please suggest, if any further infirnation is needed.
>
> Thanks
> Lavanya
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Request for clarification on road tagging guidelines

[maning sambale]

There is a list:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types
But not everyone agrees. ;)

Agree with Eugene here.  It depends on the traffic-flow and general purpose
of that segment.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:13 PM Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Hi Lavanya,
>
> I personally would tag this the same as the side street and not the link
> version of the major road.
>
> My reason is: imagine if the side street actually goes through the major
> road to the other side. To me it makes logical sense that the minor street
> retains the characteristics such as name and type on its entire length and
> not be suddenly interrupted just because it crosses a major street. I then
> use the same logic even if the minor street ends on the major street like
> in your example.
>
> But I know that other people have different opinions on this and you can
> see both types of tagging worldwide. I say just leave things as they are
> and only change them if you have compelling reasons to do so such as local
> road and traffic conditions. For example, if more drivers use this bit of
> road to transfer between the major and minor road then tag it as minor. But
> if more drivers use it to make u-turns on the major road then making it a
> major link road makes sense.
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 11:45 AM grab osm via talk-ph <
> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org wrote:
>
>> Apologize Erwin.
>>
>> Here are the further details of our question.
>>
>> When a way segment that connects to a Major road, please suggest if the
>> the connector should have same classification as the way segment or that of
>> a Major Road with link attribute assigned
>>
>> Below is an example:
>> [image: image]
>> 
>> Please suggest, if any further infirnation is needed.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Lavanya
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Request for clarification on road tagging guidelines

[grab osm via talk-ph]

Thanks everyone for your time in clarifying us.

We found a couple of segments in PH and ID cities where the link segment
classification in continued as that of connecting way.  As mentioned by
Eugene and Maning, these could probably classified basis traffic flow and
segment usage.

So, if the connector segment is already available, we better off do not
change its existing classification as we will not be sure on the traffic
flow through satellite imagery alone, unless we have mapillary or OSC
imagery.

But, how would we go about when we find a missing connector.  Will it be a
good idea to tag it as highway = road?

Thanks
Lavanya






On Jan 28, 2019 13:48, "maning sambale"  wrote:

There is a list:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Link_roads_between_different_highways_types
But not everyone agrees. ;)

Agree with Eugene here.  It depends on the traffic-flow and general purpose
of that segment.

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 4:13 PM Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Hi Lavanya,
>
> I personally would tag this the same as the side street and not the link
> version of the major road.
>
> My reason is: imagine if the side street actually goes through the major
> road to the other side. To me it makes logical sense that the minor street
> retains the characteristics such as name and type on its entire length and
> not be suddenly interrupted just because it crosses a major street. I then
> use the same logic even if the minor street ends on the major street like
> in your example.
>
> But I know that other people have different opinions on this and you can
> see both types of tagging worldwide. I say just leave things as they are
> and only change them if you have compelling reasons to do so such as local
> road and traffic conditions. For example, if more drivers use this bit of
> road to transfer between the major and minor road then tag it as minor. But
> if more drivers use it to make u-turns on the major road then making it a
> major link road makes sense.
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 11:45 AM grab osm via talk-ph <
> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org wrote:
>
>> Apologize Erwin.
>>
>> Here are the further details of our question.
>>
>> When a way segment that connects to a Major road, please suggest if the
>> the connector should have same classification as the way segment or that of
>> a Major Road with link attribute assigned
>>
>> Below is an example:
>> [image: image]
>> 
>> Please suggest, if any further infirnation is needed.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Lavanya
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Request for clarification on road tagging guidelines

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019, 7:12 PM grab osm via talk-ph <
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org wrote:

> But, how would we go about when we find a missing connector.  Will it be a
> good idea to tag it as highway = road?
>

Tag it with either the minor road type or the major link type. You can also
look at surrounding areas to see which tagging is usually used. Either
would be more correct than highway=road which is intended as just a
temporary value.

~Eugene

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