Re: [talk-ph] Letter of Invite for Open Data Day Manila 2019

[Pierre Edwin See Tiong]

Hi OSM Ph,

FEUTech is going to celebrate their own Open Data Day 2019, and currently 
they're looking for a speakers for this specific topics:

* Transforming Citizens Through Open Mapping
* Mapping for the Youth
* Community Development Through Mapping

FEUTech YouthMappers will handle the "Mapping for the Youth" part, but 
currently we don't have the proper knowledge to discuss the other 2 topics.

cc'd here are the head organizing comms., for more info:

Alain Vincent Mindana - ACM FEUTech
Arthom James Callejo - JPCS FEUTech

and here is the link for their fb page event:

https://www.facebook.com/Open-Data-Day-2019-2154264504640750/

Thank You,
Pierre

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From: Pierre Edwin See Tiong 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:56:22 AM
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Cc: arthom0...@gmail.com; Alain Vincent Mindaña
Subject: Fwd: Letter of Invite for Open Data Day Manila 2019

Hi OSM Ph,

CC'd here is Alain Vincent Mindana from ACM FEUTech and Arthom James Callejo 
from JPCS FEUTech, they're the head organizers for the ODD 2019 FEUTech 
celebration, and they're currently looking for a possible speaker for open 
mapping topic. Attached here is the invitation letter from them and for more 
info you can ask them directly.

Thank You,
Pierre

From: Alain Vincent Mindaña
Sent: Monday, February 18, 6:21 PM
Subject: Letter of Invite for Open Data Day Manila 2019
To: plseeti...@outlook.com





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Re: [talk-ph] Request clarification on access restrictions

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:56 PM Erwin Olario  wrote:

> destination - temporary access is given, until destination is reached
> (shared roads, in gated communities/subdivisions/estates)
>

I actually have a quibble with access=destination when tagged for roads
inside gated communities. Technically, residents or those who otherwise
have vehicular stickers can pass through the gated community if there are
more than 1 exits. Given that there exists a sophisticated router software,
a resident or sticker-holder should be able to pass through the gated
community maybe to avoid traffic in external roads without needing to
actually stop inside the gated community, which is what is implied by the
"destination" access.

An example of this case is the huge BF Homes Parañaque subdivision. Most
residents and those who have stickers often pass through the subdivision to
avoid traffic along Alabang-Zapote Road or Sucat Road. If you tag these
roads as access=destination, a router would not route through the
subdivision unless the destination is inside.

~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Request clarification on access restrictions

[Michael Fast]

Grabteam,

Please see my comments below for clarification. 

Michael

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> On 20 Feb 2019, at 15:55, Erwin Olario  wrote:
> 
> 
> Currently, many highways within gated subdivisions are tagged as private. It 
> seems that the more appropriate tag is access=destination, where access 
> rights are granted every time a guest is allowed in, and is the most likely 
> case. access=permissive is not necessarily correct, where the visitor is 
> assumed to have been given casual access, without asking further permission.
> 
> In summary, common access values for access for local roads:
> private - access to owners only (e.g, household driveways)
> destination - temporary access is given, until destination is reached (shared 
> roads, in gated communities/subdivisions/estates)
> permissive - nominally private, casual use are tolerated by the owners until 
> revoked (e.g. private subdivisions, without guards or barriers)
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:35 PM grab osm via talk-ph 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi Team,
>> 
>> Request your help in clarifying a couple of questions related to access 
>> restrictions.
>> 
>> 1)**Incorrect segments assigned as access=private**
>> At this location, 14.6792514, 121.0568702, there is a gate with name(Gate to 
>> Pingki-an 2).

This is a gate to a footpath. In years past there was access here but the 
neighbouring subdivision has since closed the gate. I have updated the 
permission to “private.” I have also adjusted the gates position to make it 
clearer that it affects the footpath and not the residential street. 

>> Basis gate location and name, we assume segments to the north should be 
>> assigned as access=permissive basis poi's and surrounding landuse polygon 
>> names
>> Example way id's -
>> way 655215117
Changed to “destination”

>> way 655215119
Changed to “destination”

>> way 655215118
Changed to “destination”

>> way 129591536 
This is a footpath or eskinita. Access is from the north via a network of other 
footpaths or eskinita. 

>> However, access restrictions are given to segments towards south
>> Example way id's -
>> way 28296648
Changed to “destination”

>> way 23172246
Changed to “destination”

>> way 23172447
Changed to “destination”
>> 
>> 2)**Segments assigned as access=private should be changed to 
>> access=permissive**
>> Below mentioned example way id's are assigned as access=private, however 
>> basis the landuse residential polygons, we assume access should be changed 
>> to permissive.
>> Example way id's -
>> way 130960943
Changed to “destination”

>> way 22952874
Changed to “destination”

>> way 28296647
Changed to “destination”

>> way 22952900
Changed to “destination”
>> 
>> Alternatively we have created an issue in our github page.
>> Kindly take time to review and suggest. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> GrabTeam
>> 
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