Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
yes, I noticed this technique by the boatmen in dos palmas (keeping the direction of the boat as perpendicular as possible, rather than parallel to the direction of the waves) :-) On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 10:37 AM, tutubi wrote: > Hi Rally, > > I have a trace of the Dos Palmas ferry route (and even pearl farm) but > i didn't upload them when i saw the route is already there. Perhaps I > can check. Also, the islands of Honda Bay are not tagged they way > locals call the islands...just remembered it now...will correct later > :P > > ferry routes also depends on directions of the waves i.e. boatmen and > sailors don't approach waves head on but at around 45 degrees to > lessen impact. > > i used to boat around laguna lake as a child and that was one of the > things experienced boatmen taught me :P > > --- > I explore, therefore I blog. > > http://www.backpackingphilippines.com > > > > On 5/30/11, Rally de Leon wrote: > > I think we can add non-gps ferry route on water bays known to be deep > enough > > (eg subic area), or no known fishpens or fish cages in the area. (not > > recommended in laguna de bay). > > > > In night-time or zero-visibility navigation using untested ferrt route, > > smaller pump boats may end up going through fishnets :-) > > > > eg. the short pumpboat ride between Dos Palmas Resort & Isla Punting > > Buhangin can be tricky since there are shallow water/sand bars > > > -- > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Hi Rally, I have a trace of the Dos Palmas ferry route (and even pearl farm) but i didn't upload them when i saw the route is already there. Perhaps I can check. Also, the islands of Honda Bay are not tagged they way locals call the islands...just remembered it now...will correct later :P ferry routes also depends on directions of the waves i.e. boatmen and sailors don't approach waves head on but at around 45 degrees to lessen impact. i used to boat around laguna lake as a child and that was one of the things experienced boatmen taught me :P --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On 5/30/11, Rally de Leon wrote: > I think we can add non-gps ferry route on water bays known to be deep enough > (eg subic area), or no known fishpens or fish cages in the area. (not > recommended in laguna de bay). > > In night-time or zero-visibility navigation using untested ferrt route, > smaller pump boats may end up going through fishnets :-) > > eg. the short pumpboat ride between Dos Palmas Resort & Isla Punting > Buhangin can be tricky since there are shallow water/sand bars > -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Done: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/8283441 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Rally de Leon wrote: > I think we can add non-gps ferry route on water bays known to be deep enough > (eg subic area), or no known fishpens or fish cages in the area. (not > recommended in laguna de bay). > > In night-time or zero-visibility navigation using untested ferrt route, > smaller pump boats may end up going through fishnets :-) > > eg. the short pumpboat ride between Dos Palmas Resort & Isla Punting > Buhangin can be tricky since there are shallow water/sand bars > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I think there is no problem with adding a non-GPS-based ferry route. >> There isn't any major routing decisions to be made for this short >> ferry ride and somebody else can improve the ferry route geometry in >> the future. >> >> I don't want to add it now though since I'm not sure where the >> terminal is in Subic Bay Freeport Zone. >> >> Eugene >> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: >> > I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront >> > road to >> > the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one >> > requests a >> > route from Manila to the Island. >> > >> > I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: >> > http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 >> > If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate >> > routes >> > up to the island. >> > >> > Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry >> > route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the >> > ferry? >> > >> > >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I just sent them an email message (though it was to >> >> sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale >> >> wrote: >> >> > Dear Eugene, >> >> > >> >> > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed >> >> > code? >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar >> >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their >> >> >> location >> >> >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred >> >> >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: >> >> >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> > cheers, >> >> > maning >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > website administrator: >> > - www.waypoints.ph >> > - reeflife.eppgarcia.com >> > >> > PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
I think we can add non-gps ferry route on water bays known to be deep enough (eg subic area), or no known fishpens or fish cages in the area. (not recommended in laguna de bay). In night-time or zero-visibility navigation using untested ferrt route, smaller pump boats may end up going through fishnets :-) eg. the short pumpboat ride between Dos Palmas Resort & Isla Punting Buhangin can be tricky since there are shallow water/sand bars On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I think there is no problem with adding a non-GPS-based ferry route. > There isn't any major routing decisions to be made for this short > ferry ride and somebody else can improve the ferry route geometry in > the future. > > I don't want to add it now though since I'm not sure where the > terminal is in Subic Bay Freeport Zone. > > Eugene > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: > > I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront road > to > > the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one requests > a > > route from Manila to the Island. > > > > I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: > > http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 > > If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate > routes > > up to the island. > > > > Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry > > route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the ferry? > > > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > > wrote: > >> > >> I just sent them an email message (though it was to > >> sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) > >> > >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale > >> wrote: > >> > Dear Eugene, > >> > > >> > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed > code? > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar < > sea...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location > >> >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html > >> >> > >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred > >> >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: > >> >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m > >> >> > >> > -- > >> > cheers, > >> > maning > >> > >> ___ > >> talk-ph mailing list > >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > -- > > website administrator: > > - www.waypoints.ph > > - reeflife.eppgarcia.com > > > > PADI Divemaster #491048 > > > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Cool! That's very convenient. I just might add the ferry route when I get home if nobody beats me to it. :-) On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: > Hi Eugene, > > The terminal is actually already in OSM: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.817303&lon=120.279643&zoom=18&layers=M > > :>) ed > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> I think there is no problem with adding a non-GPS-based ferry route. >> There isn't any major routing decisions to be made for this short >> ferry ride and somebody else can improve the ferry route geometry in >> the future. >> >> I don't want to add it now though since I'm not sure where the >> terminal is in Subic Bay Freeport Zone. >> >> Eugene >> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: >> > I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront >> > road to >> > the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one >> > requests a >> > route from Manila to the Island. >> > >> > I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: >> > http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 >> > If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate >> > routes >> > up to the island. >> > >> > Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry >> > route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the >> > ferry? >> > >> > >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I just sent them an email message (though it was to >> >> sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) >> >> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale >> >> wrote: >> >> > Dear Eugene, >> >> > >> >> > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed >> >> > code? >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar >> >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their >> >> >> location >> >> >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html >> >> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred >> >> >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: >> >> >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m >> >> >> >> >> > -- >> >> > cheers, >> >> > maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Hi Eugene, The terminal is actually already in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.817303&lon=120.279643&zoom=18&layers=M :>) ed On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Hi Ed, > > I think there is no problem with adding a non-GPS-based ferry route. > There isn't any major routing decisions to be made for this short > ferry ride and somebody else can improve the ferry route geometry in > the future. > > I don't want to add it now though since I'm not sure where the > terminal is in Subic Bay Freeport Zone. > > Eugene > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: > > I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront road > to > > the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one requests > a > > route from Manila to the Island. > > > > I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: > > http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 > > If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate > routes > > up to the island. > > > > Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry > > route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the ferry? > > > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > > wrote: > >> > >> I just sent them an email message (though it was to > >> sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) > >> > >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale > >> wrote: > >> > Dear Eugene, > >> > > >> > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed > code? > >> > > >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar < > sea...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location > >> >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html > >> >> > >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred > >> >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: > >> >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m > >> >> > >> > -- > >> > cheers, > >> > maning > >> > >> ___ > >> talk-ph mailing list > >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > -- > > website administrator: > > - www.waypoints.ph > > - reeflife.eppgarcia.com > > > > PADI Divemaster #491048 > > > > > > -- > http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com > -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Hi Ed, I think there is no problem with adding a non-GPS-based ferry route. There isn't any major routing decisions to be made for this short ferry ride and somebody else can improve the ferry route geometry in the future. I don't want to add it now though since I'm not sure where the terminal is in Subic Bay Freeport Zone. Eugene On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Ed Garcia wrote: > I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront road to > the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one requests a > route from Manila to the Island. > > I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: > http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 > If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate routes > up to the island. > > Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry > route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the ferry? > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: >> >> I just sent them an email message (though it was to >> sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale >> wrote: >> > Dear Eugene, >> > >> > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed code? >> > >> > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar >> > wrote: >> >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location >> >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html >> >> >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred >> >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: >> >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m >> >> >> > -- >> > cheers, >> > maning >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > -- > website administrator: > - www.waypoints.ph > - reeflife.eppgarcia.com > > PADI Divemaster #491048 > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
I suggest adding the ferry route from the terminal at the Waterfront road to the Island so that it can be used by the routing services if one requests a route from Manila to the Island. I have just added the resort to waypointsdotph: http://waypoints.ph/vmap.php?wpt=rr0082 If a ferry route is added at OSM, the routing services can calculate routes up to the island. Well, I guess my question is, need we wait for GPS traces of the ferry route? or can we go ahead and plot the most probable route of the ferry? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > I just sent them an email message (though it was to > sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale > wrote: > > Dear Eugene, > > > > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed code? > > > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar > wrote: > >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location > >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html > >> > >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred > >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: > >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m > >> > > -- > > cheers, > > maning > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- website administrator: - www.waypoints.ph - reeflife.eppgarcia.com PADI Divemaster #491048 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
I just sent them an email message (though it was to sa...@grandeislandresort.com--there was no general email address). :-) On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:48 PM, maning sambale wrote: > Dear Eugene, > > Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed code? > > On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >> Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location >> in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html >> >> Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred >> kilometers off the actual location of the resort: >> http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m >> > -- > cheers, > maning ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Dear Eugene, Have you tried sending them a message with the correct html embed code? On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location > in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html > > Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred > kilometers off the actual location of the resort: > http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Grande Island Resort is using OSM
Grande Island Resort in Subic Bay is using OSM to show their location in their website: http://www.grandeislandresort.com/location.html Unfortunately, the marker shown in the map is about a hundred kilometers off the actual location of the resort: http://osm.org/go/4zMqrIm?m ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
