[talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
Hi guys, In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at the Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local OSM mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how mapping amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping fundamentals. http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party-report.html I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there. Please don't reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved here (use this e-mail!). Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming from since I don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils down to a matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data is not useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being primarily collected using consumer-grade GPS devices). Cheers, Eugene / seav ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
Hello everyone! I read the whole thread and I think Eugene hit the mark in saying, *OpenStreetMap doesn't aim to replace NAMRIA or even UK's Ordnance Survey. What we want is open/free vector map data that is topologically correct and is reasonably placed (to about 10 meters) such that users of the data won't get lost.* Currently, I'm finishing up a degree in Geodetic Engineering and for all I know, amdomag could be one of my professors. I believe he has been suggesting that accuracy and methodology need to be checked. However, method accounts to accuracy and accuracy needed is largely dependent on its purpose. With this, I stand that OSM serves its purpose. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
Kids prepare to be amazed! Well, I am - I am waiting for the mapping professionals to join the discussions here. Eugene, I agree he doesn't know how OSM actually works. It works for us but the guy find it hard to fit OSM in his craft. The level of accuracy he wanted is not really practical for OSM. If we can have data as accurate as what he is wanted then why not add it to OSM. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 11/9/2009 8:48:58 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals Hi guys, In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at the Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local OSM mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how mapping amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping fundamentals. http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party -report.html I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there. Please don't reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved here (use this e-mail!). Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming from since I don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils down to a matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data is not useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being primarily collected using consumer-grade GPS devices). Cheers, Eugene / seav span id=m2wTlpfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=2 style=font-size:13.5px___BRGet the Free email that has everyone talking at a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=newhttp://www.mail2world.com/abr font color=#99Unlimited Email Storage #150; POP3 #150; Calendar #150; SMS #150; Translator #150; Much More!/font/font/span___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
I do hope he becomes an OSM convert. Several friends I have in the geospatial industry, have the same initial reaction. But I know some are using OSM data already. @murlwe, he seems to be based in Mindanao so it would be good if you can have a meet-up. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Kids prepare to be amazed! Well, I am - I am waiting for the mapping professionals to join the discussions here. Eugene, I agree he doesn't know how OSM actually works. It works for us but the guy find it hard to fit OSM in his craft. The level of accuracy he wanted is not really practical for OSM. If we can have data as accurate as what he is wanted then why not add it to OSM. Best, murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 11/9/2009 8:48:58 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals Hi guys, In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at the Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local OSM mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how mapping amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping fundamentals. http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party-report.html I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there. Please don't reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved here (use this e-mail!). Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming from since I don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils down to a matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data is not useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being primarily collected using consumer-grade GPS devices). Cheers, Eugene / seav ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
