Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi,

Woah! 31 pages, I'm not that interested :-)

Anyway feel free to edit the border, and remove the Spratley's if you wish.

I had thought Wikipedia would have nice maps of all the countries borders,
and lists of the co-ordinates, yet here we are in the 21st Century and
people are still fighting over borders.

Cheers, Ian

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:

> The borders are actually based on a treaty defined by the United
> States when they bought the Philippine islands and are specified by
> coordinates. You can learn more from here:
> http://www.hawaii.edu/aplpj/articles/APLPJ_10.1_bautista.pdf
>
> The problem is that those coordinates are not in WGS84 and we don't
> know what geodetic system was used.
>
> Here's an older discussion on this mailing list about the border:
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001876.html
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Ian Haylock  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually the part of the border covering the Spratly Islands has been
> there
> > for years, that's why I cant understand why no-one has finished the
> border
> > before now.
> >
> > Though it did take me hours to find that one map showing the border,
> maybe
> > everyone else just gave up looking.
> >
> > Cheers, Ian
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
> >> Spratlys. :-P
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock 
> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
> >> >
> >> > I used the map available here :
> >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
> >> >
> >> > I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did
> a
> >> > best
> >> > guess for the points.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
> >> >
> >> > Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
> >> > automatically.
> >> >
> >> > If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering
> is
> >> > much
> >> > faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at
> >> > 100%
> >> > CPU usage.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers, Ian
> >> >
> >> > P.S.
> >> >
> >> > I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried
> to
> >> > revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just
> >> > got an
> >> > error :-( So I left it as it is.
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
The borders are actually based on a treaty defined by the United
States when they bought the Philippine islands and are specified by
coordinates. You can learn more from here:
http://www.hawaii.edu/aplpj/articles/APLPJ_10.1_bautista.pdf

The problem is that those coordinates are not in WGS84 and we don't
know what geodetic system was used.

Here's an older discussion on this mailing list about the border:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2010-March/001876.html


On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Ian Haylock  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Actually the part of the border covering the Spratly Islands has been there
> for years, that's why I cant understand why no-one has finished the border
> before now.
>
> Though it did take me hours to find that one map showing the border, maybe
> everyone else just gave up looking.
>
> Cheers, Ian
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
>> Spratlys. :-P
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
>> >
>> > I used the map available here :
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
>> >
>> > I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a
>> > best
>> > guess for the points.
>> >
>> > Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
>> >
>> > Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
>> > automatically.
>> >
>> > If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is
>> > much
>> > faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at
>> > 100%
>> > CPU usage.
>> >
>> > Cheers, Ian
>> >
>> > P.S.
>> >
>> > I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
>> > revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just
>> > got an
>> > error :-( So I left it as it is.
>> >
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>> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi,

Actually the part of the border covering the Spratly Islands has been there
for years, that's why I cant understand why no-one has finished the border
before now.

Though it did take me hours to find that one map showing the border, maybe
everyone else just gave up looking.

Cheers, Ian

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:

> I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
> Spratlys. :-P
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
> >
> > I used the map available here :
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
> >
> > I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a
> best
> > guess for the points.
> >
> > Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
> >
> > Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
> > automatically.
> >
> > If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is
> much
> > faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at
> 100%
> > CPU usage.
> >
> > Cheers, Ian
> >
> > P.S.
> >
> > I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
> > revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just got
> an
> > error :-( So I left it as it is.
> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-09 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I wonder if we'll have an edit war with neighboring countries over the
Spratlys. :-P


On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Ian Haylock  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.
>
> I used the map available here :
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png
>
> I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a best
> guess for the points.
>
> Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.
>
> Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
> automatically.
>
> If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is much
> faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at 100%
> CPU usage.
>
> Cheers, Ian
>
> P.S.
>
> I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
> revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just got an
> error :-( So I left it as it is.
>
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[talk-ph] Philippines Territorial Border

2011-02-08 Thread Ian Haylock
Hi,

I've just updated the Territorial border for the Philippines.

I used the map available here :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ph_Territorial_Map.png

I don't know how to make this png a background in JOSM, so I just did a best
guess for the points.

Hopefully I haven't messed up the relation doing this.

Hopefully now Mapfactors Navigator Free map generator should work
automatically.

If you haven't tried Navigator Free, it's worth a try, map rendering is much
faster on my GPS than Garmin Mobile XT, which keeps my GPS running at 100%
CPU usage.

Cheers, Ian

P.S.

I know, I know, I forgot to change the tag for the changeset. I tried to
revert the changeset then re upload it with the correct tag, but just got an
error :-( So I left it as it is.
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