Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals

2009-11-09 Thread maning sambale
I do hope he becomes an OSM convert.

Several friends I have in the geospatial industry, have the same
initial reaction.  But I know some are using OSM data already.

@murlwe, he seems to be based in Mindanao so it would be good if you
can have a meet-up.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Marloue Pidor  wrote:
> Kids prepare to be amazed! Well, I am - I am waiting for the mapping
> professionals to join the discussions here. Eugene, I agree he doesn't know
> how OSM actually works. It works for us but the guy find it hard to fit OSM
> in his craft.
>
> The level of accuracy he wanted is not really practical for OSM. If we can
> have data as accurate as what he is wanted then why not add it to OSM.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> murlwe
>
> <-Original Message->
>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
>>Sent: 11/9/2009 8:48:58 PM
>>To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
>>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at the
>>Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local OSM
>>mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how
>> mapping
>>amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping fundamentals.
>>http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party-report.html
>>
>>I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there. Please
>> don't
>>reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved
>> here
>>(use this e-mail!).
>>
>>Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming from
>> since I
>>don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful
>>crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils down
>> to a
>>matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data is
>> not
>>useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being primarily
>>collected using consumer-grade GPS devices).
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Eugene / seav
>
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals

2009-11-09 Thread Marloue Pidor
Kids prepare to be amazed! Well, I am - I am waiting for the mapping
professionals to join the discussions here. Eugene, I agree he doesn't
know how OSM actually works. It works for us but the guy find it hard to
fit OSM in his craft.

The level of accuracy he wanted is not really practical for OSM. If we
can have data as accurate as what he is wanted then why not add it to
OSM.


Best,


murlwe

<-Original Message-> 
>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com]
>Sent: 11/9/2009 8:48:58 PM
>To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals
>
>Hi guys,
>
>In case you weren't aware, there was a very lively discussion over at
the
>Mapping Mindanao blog where a mapping professional suggested that local
OSM
>mappers invite people like him to talk about mapping knowledge and how
mapping
>amateurs (i.e. OSMers) need to be aware about basic mapping
fundamentals.
>http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/07/davao-mapping-party-post-party
-report.html
>
>I'll just leave you guys to read the 42-comments-long thread there.
Please don't
>reply anymore there because it was decided that the discussion be moved
here
>(use this e-mail!).
>
>Up to now, I'm still trying to ascertain where exactly he is coming
from since I
>don't think he understands how OSM has made mapping into a successful
>crowd-sourced project. As far as I understand, the central point boils
down to a
>matter of accuracy in georeferencing. He seems to imply that OSM data
is not
>useful in his industry since it isn't properly collected (being
primarily
>collected using consumer-grade GPS devices).
>
>
>Cheers,
>Eugene / seav 


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Re: [talk-ph] OSM and mapping professionals

2009-11-09 Thread Sorbi Ildefonso
Hello everyone!

I read the whole thread and I think Eugene hit the mark in saying,

*"OpenStreetMap doesn't aim to replace NAMRIA or even UK's Ordnance Survey.
What we want is open/free vector map data that is topologically correct and
is reasonably placed (to about 10 meters) such that users of the data won't
get lost."*

Currently, I'm finishing up a degree in Geodetic Engineering and for all I
know, amdomag could be one of my professors. I believe he has been
suggesting that accuracy and methodology need to be checked. However, method
accounts to accuracy and accuracy needed is largely dependent on its
purpose. With this, I stand that OSM serves its purpose.
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