Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
i've been convincing my boss at the national telehealth center, UP Manila, to use openstreetmap.org and this would be a good use case for us. Let me know how we can help on your proposal to use OSM for health projects. I'm sure we can pitch in some ideas on this kind of project. :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
I've been wondering about that myself. I just used amenity=public_building for now, but of course, there's no icon on the map for that. As this is an important place, maybe particularly in the province, it would be great if we could all agree on a tag for it, as well as map icon (or use an existing tag with icon). Ronny. maning sambale wrote: I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but separate from other barangay amenities. Nice. Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which is not really a hospital or doctor/s. Thanks! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a police station. (Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We could be accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/ and http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but separate from other barangay amenities. Nice. Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which is not really a hospital or doctor/s. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
hi ian, maning, tagging health centers as public building or doctor's clinic would probably be correct in keeping with generic tagging, but it would be more useful if they are tagged specifically as health centers. i've been convincing my boss at the national telehealth center, UP Manila, to use openstreetmap.organd this would be a good use case for us. ian, if both health centers and police outposts are tagged as public buildings, how do we differentiate them? there's value in distinguishing the health centers as such, and we'd like to be able to work with that data to help direct patients to the nearest one. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a police station. (Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We could be accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/and http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com* wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but separate from other barangay amenities. Nice. Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which is not really a hospital or doctor/s. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Eric Manuel Pareja (eric.par...@gmail.com) LPIC-2, NCLP | PGP/GPG Key 0xB82E42D9 Coordinator for Technology - National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Senior Linux Trainer - International Open Source Network - ASEAN+3 Ang mundo ay aklat, at iisang pahina lamang ang nababasa ng hindi naglalakbay. - San Agustin わかよたれぞ つねならむ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
How about amenity=clinic? On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, eric pareja eric.par...@gmail.com wrote: hi ian, maning, tagging health centers as public building or doctor's clinic would probably be correct in keeping with generic tagging, but it would be more useful if they are tagged specifically as health centers. i've been convincing my boss at the national telehealth center, UP Manila, to use openstreetmap.org and this would be a good use case for us. ian, if both health centers and police outposts are tagged as public buildings, how do we differentiate them? there's value in distinguishing the health centers as such, and we'd like to be able to work with that data to help direct patients to the nearest one. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.comwrote: Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a police station. (Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We could be accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/and http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com* wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but separate from other barangay amenities. Nice. Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which is not really a hospital or doctor/s. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Eric Manuel Pareja (eric.par...@gmail.com) LPIC-2, NCLP | PGP/GPG Key 0xB82E42D9 Coordinator for Technology - National Telehealth Center University of the Philippines Manila Senior Linux Trainer - International Open Source Network - ASEAN+3 Ang mundo ay aklat, at iisang pahina lamang ang nababasa ng hindi naglalakbay. - San Agustin わかよたれぞ つねならむ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
After a bit of research, strike my previous suggestion.
+.5 on amenity=clinic for me.
See http://www.mail-archive.com/t...@openstreetmap.org/msg05884.html
Statements from the discussion:
- Clinic can apply to other medical folks, such as chiropodists and
physiotherapists too.
- And physical rehabilitation, dementia care, psychiatric counseling...
the list might be quite a long one.
However it was suggested for our purposes to mean polyclinics. Do our
municipial health centers fall under this category? In my opinion, yes,
pretty much.
We can also consider adding:
medical=servicelist
where servicelist is a semicolon-separated list of values from
{dentist, doctor, chiropodist, physiotherapy, minor_surgery, ...}.
and
emergency=yes|no
as well as
operator=Municipality of ___
Ronny.
ianlopez wrote:
+1 for amenity=clinic
@eric: i didn't know the consequences of not distinguishing health
centers from barangay outposts until now. thanks.
Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me.
Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you?
Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it.
-
http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/
--- On *Mon, 3/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar /sea...@gmail.com/* wrote:
From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
To: eric pareja eric.par...@gmail.com
Cc: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com, OSM-PH
talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 9:31 PM
How about amenity=clinic?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, eric pareja
eric.par...@gmail.com /mc/compose?to=eric.par...@gmail.com wrote:
hi ian, maning,
tagging health centers as public building or doctor's clinic
would probably be correct in keeping with generic tagging, but
it would be more useful if they are tagged specifically as
health centers. i've been convincing my boss at the national
telehealth center, UP Manila, to use openstreetmap.org
http://openstreetmap.org and this would be a good use case
for us.
ian, if both health centers and police outposts are tagged as
public buildings, how do we differentiate them? there's value
in distinguishing the health centers as such, and we'd like to
be able to work with that data to help direct patients to the
nearest one.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, ianlopez
ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com
/mc/compose?to=ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote:
Health centers should be tagged, either as a public
building or as a doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated
by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. Barangay police
outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a
police station.
(Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban
checkpoints? We could be accused of encouraging some
people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them to pack
some heat and add more bodies to the count - see
http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/
and http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ )
Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me.
Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you?
Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it.
-
http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/
--- On *Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale
/emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com/* wrote:
From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
/mc/compose?to=emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health
centers
To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
/mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM
I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each
barangay in
Marikina has a separate health center, botika
(pharmacy) and police
precincts, usually located within the barangay hall
complex but
separate from other barangay amenities. Nice.
Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which
is not really a
hospital or doctor/s.
Thanks!
--
cheers,
maning
--
Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden
wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
+1 for amenity=clinic +1 for clinic=public what about the local hilot or manghihilot - the local/rural version chiropractors? (concentrated on sprains and twisted muscles, even spine alignments, who can locate aching body parts by holding the wrist or the ankle); 'pinupulsuhan' in tagalog (actually measuring the flow of energy); and i've seen korean alternative-medicine doctors on tv doing exactly the same (practicing mix eastern-western medicine + tuina therapy). what i'm trying to point out is that this is not a just local thing, koreans and chinese have there own versions, and they are not quack doctors, yet they bring relief to the community for free or sometimes charge a fee less than cost of mcdo value meal. although the term 'hilot' also refers to unlicensed midwives (and nope i don't want to promote them on the map) they belong to the alternative medicines/treatments, but also under health (but no doctors, not govt regulated) but can bring relief to special cases. amenity=clinic alternative medicine??? what about those chinese herbal stores in binondo and in the malls? On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: +1 for amenity=clinic @eric: i didn't know the consequences of not distinguishing health centers from barangay outposts until now. thanks. Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers To: eric pareja eric.par...@gmail.com Cc: ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com, OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 9:31 PM How about amenity=clinic? On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, eric pareja eric.par...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=eric.par...@gmail.com wrote: hi ian, maning, tagging health centers as public building or doctor's clinic would probably be correct in keeping with generic tagging, but it would be more useful if they are tagged specifically as health centers. i've been convincing my boss at the national telehealth center, UP Manila, to use openstreetmap.org and this would be a good use case for us. ian, if both health centers and police outposts are tagged as public buildings, how do we differentiate them? there's value in distinguishing the health centers as such, and we'd like to be able to work with that data to help direct patients to the nearest one. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:00 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.comhttp://mc/compose?to=ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Health centers should be tagged, either as a public building or as a doctor's clinic. Boticas owned/operated by barangay can be tagged as a pharmacy. Barangay police outposts can be tagged either as a public building or as a police station. (Just a question: Is it OK to add Comelec/PNP Gun Ban checkpoints? We could be accused of encouraging some people to evade checkpoints and allow some of them to pack some heat and add more bodies to the count - see http://mashable.com/2009/12/31/drunken-drivers-evade-the-cops-with-twitter/and http://mashable.com/2010/02/03/los-twitteros/ ) Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On *Mon, 3/15/10, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com * wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 7:05 PM I discovered during my barangay hall visits that each barangay in Marikina has a separate health center, botika (pharmacy) and police precincts, usually located within the barangay hall complex but separate from other barangay amenities. Nice. Question: What tag for barangay health centers? Which is not really a hospital or doctor/s. Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.orghttp://mc/compose?to=talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- Eric Manuel Pareja
Re: [talk-ph] advise on tagging barangay health centers
Thanks everyone! At the minimum I think I'll use this set: amenity=clinic clinic=public name= And probably add this if I have the info: emergency=yes|no operator=Municipality; barangay or DOH what i'm trying to point out is that this is not a just local thing, koreans and chinese have there own versions, and they are not quack doctors, yet they bring relief to the community for free or sometimes charge a fee less than cost of mcdo value meal. +1 whenever this is available and important for the local community, it should be mapped as well. In many rural areas local hilots are your only option. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
