Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 33, Issue 1

2011-04-01 Thread samuel cruz
hi, i am from davao and i know what u meant on the routing errors. im 
practically focusing on the calibration of the the streets and waypoints.
i have basically gone to almost all places here in davao city and i was the one 
who contributed 90% of the poi's of rg for davao city.im still learning the 
how to since im new to osm.  one of them is how to add waypoint/poi for 
bridges.
can someone help me on the bridge poi.  thanks in advance



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   1. Re: routing errors in davao city (Marloue Pidor)
   2. Re: routing errors in davao city (tutubi)
   3. Fwd: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global (maning sambale)
   4. R1 extension now passable? (maning sambale)


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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:32:31 -0700
From: Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
To: tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city
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Those barriers come and go, maybe it depends on the mood of the traffic
management. Anyway, I will do some corrections later. Thanks!

-Original Message- 
From: tutubi [tut...@backpackingphilippines.com]
Sent: 3/31/2011 4:04:56 PM
To: mur...@mail2engineer.com
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

Hi Marloue,

JP Laurel should generally be a two-way, single-carriageway. there are
only cats 
eyes/lane markers there, no center islands nor barriers (like those in
front of 
Victory Mall)...

dual carriageways that are not really one in reality will make
navigator suggest 
routes that loops or other paths directly opposite the lane due to the
presence of 
the barrier or ways not linked to the other carriageway.

I already found the error before I came there (to Bajada View in front
of SSS 
Bajada) and verified if JP Laurel is really a dual-carriageway. the
only segment 
of Laurel as dual-carriageway is in front of Victory Mall (where a
no-left-turn to 
the service road should be placed), near the Bajada Interchange and a
segment near 
C.M. Recto.

on East Avenue, it's really a dual-carriageway with center island and
steel 
barriers in the middle, recently passed there again last saturday just
to eat at 
Little Quiapo. I only remembered i have to add a no-left-turn from
Matalino to 
East Ave (then use a U-turn slot to get to EDSA). I've no updated info
on NIA road 
though but I remember it as dual-carriageway with a center island.

lastly, i add errors to openstreetbugs :P

thanks,

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On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Marloue Pidor
mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote:

Tutubi, 

I am based in Davao, thanks for the info.
- where exactly the routing errors? To correct them.
- why do you think J. P. Laurel Ave. be a single-carriageway? (should
review also 
East Ave and NIA Road in Manila those are part of my reference)
- the turn restrictions are new to Davao we will be updating that.

Add the errors here:
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=14lat=7.103lon=125.682

Well, I really think the National Highway from Talomo to Ilang in
Tibunco should 
be a dual-carriageway.


Best,

murlwe



-Original Message- 
From: tutubi [tut...@backpackingphilippines.com]
Sent: 3/31/2011 10:44:23 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

hi!

anyone based in davao? was there for 2 days (tuesday and wednesday)
again after 7 
years and boy, davao is really booming!

Since I already stored the coordinates of my destination prior to my
trips, i 
noticed routing errors caused by JP Laurel depicted as
dual-carriageway that 
should only be a single-carriageway, 4 lane highway that's actually
davao's main 
road

the only segments i noticed where it should be depicted as dual are
those near 
the 
Bajada interchange, and portions near Victory mall (where turn
restriction should 
also be placed) and probably near C.M. Recto near Marco Polo

another such road is C.P Garcia leading to the airport and probably
portions of 
davao-agusan highway

Davao City has great coverage but routing is problematic due to the
dual-
carriageways (a similar case in Cebu City's Archbishop Reyes)

Hope we 

Re: [talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 33, Issue 1

2011-04-01 Thread maning sambale
Dear Samuel,

Welcome to osmph.

 To add a bridge, simply split a line/way from the beginning and end
of the bridge.  Then add a tag bridge=yes to the newly created way.
Make sure to add the correct name of the bridge.  We normally, don't
add a POI/point to a bridge since it is in most cases part of a road.
Unless:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/acewideshot/515389782/ ;)



On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 6:34 PM, samuel cruz docsamc...@yahoo.com wrote:
 hi, i am from davao and i know what u meant on the routing errors. im
 practically focusing on the calibration of the the streets and waypoints.
 i have basically gone to almost all places here in davao city and i was the
 one who contributed 90% of the poi's of rg for davao city.    im still
 learning the how to since im new to osm.  one of them is how to add
 waypoint/poi for bridges.
 can someone help me on the bridge poi.  thanks in advance
 
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 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 6:11:22 PM
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 Today's Topics:

   1. Re: routing errors in davao city (Marloue Pidor)
   2. Re: routing errors in davao city (tutubi)
   3. Fwd: [OSM-talk] ITO Map now Global (maning sambale)
   4. R1 extension now passable? (maning sambale)


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 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 04:32:31 -0700
 From: Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
 To: tut...@backpackingphilippines.com
 Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city
 Message-ID: f5337094ffca47409836569ef9cd8...@mail2world.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 Those barriers come and go, maybe it depends on the mood of the traffic
 management. Anyway, I will do some corrections later. Thanks!

 -Original Message-
 From: tutubi [tut...@backpackingphilippines.com]
Sent: 3/31/2011 4:04:56 PM
To: mur...@mail2engineer.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

Hi Marloue,

JP Laurel should generally be a two-way, single-carriageway. there are
 only cats
eyes/lane markers there, no center islands nor barriers (like those in
 front of
Victory Mall)...

dual carriageways that are not really one in reality will make
 navigator suggest
routes that loops or other paths directly opposite the lane due to the
 presence of
the barrier or ways not linked to the other carriageway.

I already found the error before I came there (to Bajada View in front
 of SSS
Bajada) and verified if JP Laurel is really a dual-carriageway. the
 only segment
of Laurel as dual-carriageway is in front of Victory Mall (where a
 no-left-turn to
the service road should be placed), near the Bajada Interchange and a
 segment near
C.M. Recto.

on East Avenue, it's really a dual-carriageway with center island and
 steel
barriers in the middle, recently passed there again last saturday just
 to eat at
Little Quiapo. I only remembered i have to add a no-left-turn from
 Matalino to
East Ave (then use a U-turn slot to get to EDSA). I've no updated info
 on NIA road
though but I remember it as dual-carriageway with a center island.

lastly, i add errors to openstreetbugs :P

thanks,

--
---
I explore, therefore I blog.

http://www.backpackingphilippines.com



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Marloue Pidor
 mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote:

Tutubi,

I am based in Davao, thanks for the info.
- where exactly the routing errors? To correct them.
- why do you think J. P. Laurel Ave. be a single-carriageway? (should
 review also
East Ave and NIA Road in Manila those are part of my reference)
- the turn restrictions are new to Davao we will be updating that.

Add the errors here:
http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?zoom=14lat=7.103lon=125.682

Well, I really think the National Highway from Talomo to Ilang in
 Tibunco should
be a dual-carriageway.


Best,

murlwe



-Original Message-
From: tutubi [tut...@backpackingphilippines.com]
Sent: 3/31/2011 10:44:23 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] routing errors in davao city

hi!

anyone based in davao? was there for 2 days (tuesday and wednesday)
 again after 7
years and boy, davao is really booming!

Since I already stored the coordinates of my destination prior to my
 trips, i
noticed routing errors caused by JP Laurel depicted as
 dual-carriageway that
should only be a single-carriageway, 4 lane highway that's actually
 davao's main
road

the