Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal
So judging from the wiki the portugese OSM project standard for reference tagging is now: EN 329 with a space. Same goes for A 23 and IP 9 all seperated by spaces, correct? Claudius Am 18.01.2011 14:17, f.dos.san...@free.fr: Indeed it needed a clarification ! Modificei o wiki primeira parte : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas Hello, yes i think i can confirm. Even if in some online maps it appears diferently, the correct naming should be the EN separated from the number. In several local municipalities and in the Road institute is that the norm. Sorry for discussing in portuguese :-) In some cases it seems there are numbers composed with an - in the middle like EN 8-6. I really don't know why :-) Anyone can bring a light to this? Victor On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Claudius Henrichsclaudiu...@gmx.dewrote: So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly: The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be: ref=EN 329 The *incorrect* tagging would be: ref=EN329 (without space) ref=N 329 ref=N329 ref=329 Additionally I would remove Estradas Nacionais or EN329 from the name-tag. Right? So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709 Currently it's tagged like this: name: Estrada Nacional 108 ref: N108 and I would change it to just: ref: EN 108 Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P Claudius Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira: Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente: *highway=primary*. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aquihttp://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens). E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim. Victor On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote: Ok, thanks for the heads up. The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct: it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page. Victor Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais ! Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ? Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas Não diz nada sobre o ref. E a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal Uso o N e não EN. E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra e o numero : N 2). On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Bom dia! sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant information and question. Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely some increased activity from some german mappers. This is because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel. There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery. I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this campaign, but better late than never. Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Claudius ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal
So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly: The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be: ref=EN 329 The *incorrect* tagging would be: ref=EN329 (without space) ref=N 329 ref=N329 ref=329 Additionally I would remove Estradas Nacionais or EN329 from the name-tag. Right? So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709 Currently it's tagged like this: name: Estrada Nacional 108 ref: N108 and I would change it to just: ref: EN 108 Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P Claudius Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira: Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente: /highway=primary/. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aqui http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens). E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim. Victor On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS f.dos.san...@free.fr mailto:f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote: Ok, thanks for the heads up. The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct: it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page. Victor Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais ! Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ? Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas Não diz nada sobre o ref. E a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal Uso o N e não EN. E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra e o numero : N 2). On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de mailto:claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Bom dia! sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant information and question. Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely some increased activity from some german mappers. This is because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel. There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery. I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this campaign, but better late than never. Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Claudius ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal
If everybody agree I think the correct tagging is : ref=A1 (for motorway) ref=IP5 (for itinerario principal) ref=IC31 (for itinerario complementario) ref=EN329 (for estradas nacionais) etc... The example : ref=N2 *incorrect* (need to start with EN) ref=EN 329 *incorrect* (no space needed) I will correct the Portuguese wiki, the first paragraph describing the ref tag need clarification (describing the format). So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly: The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be: ref=EN 329 The *incorrect* tagging would be: ref=EN329 (without space) ref=N 329 ref=N329 ref=329 Additionally I would remove Estradas Nacionais or EN329 from the name-tag. Right? So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709 Currently it's tagged like this: name: Estrada Nacional 108 ref: N108 and I would change it to just: ref: EN 108 Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P Claudius Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira: Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente: /highway=primary/. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aqui http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens). E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim. Victor On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS f.dos.san...@free.fr mailto:f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote: Ok, thanks for the heads up. The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct: it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page. Victor Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais ! Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ? Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas Não diz nada sobre o ref. E a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal Uso o N e não EN. E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra e o numero : N 2). On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de mailto:claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Bom dia! sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant information and question. Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely some increased activity from some german mappers. This is because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel. There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery. I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this campaign, but better late than never. Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Claudius ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal
Ok, thanks for the heads up. The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct: it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page. Victor On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.dewrote: Bom dia! sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant information and question. Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely some increased activity from some german mappers. This is because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel. There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery. I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this campaign, but better late than never. Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Claudius [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aktionen/Aktion_12 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_Portugal [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portugal ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal
Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente: *highway=primary*. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aquihttp://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens). E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim. Victor On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS f.dos.san...@free.frwrote: Ok, thanks for the heads up. The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct: it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page. Victor Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais ! Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ? Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas Não diz nada sobre o ref. E a pagina : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal Uso o N e não EN. E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra e o numero : N 2). On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Bom dia! sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant information and question. Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely some increased activity from some german mappers. This is because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel. There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery. I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this campaign, but better late than never. Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Claudius [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aktionen/Aktion_12 [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_Portugal [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Portugal ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt ___ Talk-pt mailing list Talk-pt@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-pt
