[Talk-transit] TTC - Toronto, Canada data available

2009-11-03 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi all,
if any of you are on the talk-ca list, you might have seen that the
city of Toronto opened up their data, and TTC info is in there.

Does anyone have a clear method/approach that worked for dealing with the data?
Is it better to have scheduals embedded in the stop? & a route relation?
-is there a standard tagging method?
-or is it better to keep the data out of OSM, but just have it as an
external database layer (considering the complexity & the high rate of
change)

Thanks,
Sam

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Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:56 +, Christoph Böhme wrote:

> However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach


Is it possible to make it using only opnestreetmap data, so that it open 
and legal?


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Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Christoph Böhme
Valent Turkovic  schrieb:

> http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html
> 
> Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time
> Bus Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation
> tracks and this would be the next step, if possible.

Technically it is easily possible: All stops imported during the NaPTAN
import have a tag called naptan:NaptanCode. This tag can be used to
request real-time information (e.g. via text messages). In the West
Midlands area this information can also be accessed via
http://netwm.mobi/. So, theoretically you could simple display an
overlay with bus stops in OpenLayers (like Novam [1] does) and
automatically query netwm.mobi when the user clicks on a stop and
display the netwm's output in a popup.

However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach :-)

Cheers,
Christoph

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Re: [Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Christoph Böhme
Valent Turkovic  schrieb:

> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:05:56 +, Christoph Böhme wrote:
> 
> > However, I reckon there are legal problems with this approach
> 
> 
> Is it possible to make it using only opnestreetmap data, so that it
> open and legal?

The problem is that you need real-time data from the bus route
operators to know where their busses are. Since this data is constantly
changing Openstreetmap is -- in my opinion -- not the right place for
it. It would also be handy to have the timetables in a database as
well; I am not aware that anyone is adding timetables at the moment
and again I would not use OSM for that.

Nonetheless it would be really cool to produce such a map.

Cheers,
Christoph

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[Talk-transit] Real-Time Bus Map

2009-11-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2009/10/real-time-bus-map.html

Is this possible with OpenStreetMap? I would like to make Real Time Bus 
Map for my home town. We have created bus and tram relation tracks and 
this would be the next step, if possible.

Cheers.



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