Re: [Talk-us] hello world / draw on maps
Jeremy, jeremy jozwik wrote: im looking for the equivalent of using google my maps. drawing custom content on osm drawn maps. If you can live with static maps (not zoomable/pannable) then have a look at http://ojw.dev.openstreetmap.org/StaticMap/ - this creates maps that you can embed without Flash or even JavaScript. Likely to work even in NCSA Mosaic ;-) Bye Frederik nstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
On 6/14/2010 11:57 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote: [...] Either the US has a much greater density of airfields/airports than other parts of the world, many airfields/airports have yet to be mapped in other areas of the world, or the GNIS import brought in a bunch of airfields that are no longer in operation. I recall reading that the US does indeed have a much higher density of airfields than most countries. That said, there's no doubt that the imports brought in some airfields that are no longer in use or don't exist. Sometimes this is obvious by just looking at aerial imagery or a quick survey from the air, but sometimes it's hard to say whether a field is being used as a private airstrip. AFAIK the FAA doesn't keep track of such private airstrips, or, at least, many are not on the charts or in publications like the FAA Airport/Facilities Directory. Anyway, I've been trying to clean up the airports a bit in my state, and I would very much like to see some form of classification like what you originally suggested. -- Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
Hi all, I've found many of the GNIS-imported airports in my area (central PA) to be abandoned. As Lars already mentioned, oftentimes this is easy to determine from aerial imagery. The information at http://members.tripod.com/airfields_freeman/ has also proved to be very useful, with lots of pictures and historic aerial imagery. I would be very much in favor of having a three-level classification scheme as outlined by Zeke. +1! —Sven On 15-Jun-10, at 08:44 , Lars Ahlzen wrote: On 6/14/2010 11:57 PM, Zeke Farwell wrote: [...] Either the US has a much greater density of airfields/airports than other parts of the world, many airfields/airports have yet to be mapped in other areas of the world, or the GNIS import brought in a bunch of airfields that are no longer in operation. I recall reading that the US does indeed have a much higher density of airfields than most countries. That said, there's no doubt that the imports brought in some airfields that are no longer in use or don't exist. Sometimes this is obvious by just looking at aerial imagery or a quick survey from the air, but sometimes it's hard to say whether a field is being used as a private airstrip. AFAIK the FAA doesn't keep track of such private airstrips, or, at least, many are not on the charts or in publications like the FAA Airport/Facilities Directory. Anyway, I've been trying to clean up the airports a bit in my state, and I would very much like to see some form of classification like what you originally suggested. -- Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com wrote: Anyway, I've been trying to clean up the airports a bit in my state, and I would very much like to see some form of classification like what you originally suggested. Looks like there are multiple, conflicting classifications internationally. Rather than creating another arbitrary classification and the international incidents that can come along with that, what about classifying by runway length? Once a runway is added to the db, can you not determine the length of the runway and select a suitable rendering rule based on that? Certainly a local renderer can choose to do that. A wee bit of pre-processing would let you start from runway length and assign an arbitrary classification of your choice to make your rendering simpler. For how many / what percentage of airfields would runway length not be sufficient to establish prominence? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
Either the US has a much greater density of airfields/airports than other parts of the world, I don't know about that. many airfields/airports have yet to be mapped in other areas of the world, Yes, definitely. or the GNIS import brought in a bunch of airfields that are no longer in operation. Has anyone noticed a bunch old airfields in their area created by the GNIS import that really shouldn't be on the map. I don't know if it is a bunch, but they certainly are there. I did a little research last year, and it looks like the GNIS list came from an FAA list. It appeared to include such things as clearance requested and granted for airstrips but never built, and former airstrips that have since been replaced by new construction. All I know is that when I look at the aerial imagery where some of these airfields/airports are supposed to be, all I see is a field. Could be that it's just a grass runway?. Those do exist. Whether they merit inclusion on the map is subjective. I think the large/medium/small size suggestion is a really good idea. In my town there's one airport that's supposedly in the middle of the golf course. There are some golf resorts with their own airstrips. But if you know the area, and know there is a golf course there and no airstrip, by all means feel free to fix the map and delete the obsolete airport item. Thanks for keeping an eye out for this stuff. - Alan -- Alan Millar a...@bolis.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
Another thing I noticed with the GNIS data is that it doesn't seem to distinguish between airports and helipads. There was an airport in the middle of my city and I wondered where in the world that data came from. Turns out the coordinates were off by a mile which didn't help but it is actually a hospital helipad. As for airport density, I did notice a lot of them out in western Kansas when I was tagging exits along I-70. I'm guessing a lot of them are pretty small airstrips for crop dusting and such. Not sure if they should be rendered at zoom level 10 or not. I mean it's not like there is a lot of other stuff that needs rendering at zoom level 10 in western Kansas... :) Toby On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Alan Millar a...@bolis.com wrote: Either the US has a much greater density of airfields/airports than other parts of the world, I don't know about that. many airfields/airports have yet to be mapped in other areas of the world, Yes, definitely. or the GNIS import brought in a bunch of airfields that are no longer in operation. Has anyone noticed a bunch old airfields in their area created by the GNIS import that really shouldn't be on the map. I don't know if it is a bunch, but they certainly are there. I did a little research last year, and it looks like the GNIS list came from an FAA list. It appeared to include such things as clearance requested and granted for airstrips but never built, and former airstrips that have since been replaced by new construction. All I know is that when I look at the aerial imagery where some of these airfields/airports are supposed to be, all I see is a field. Could be that it's just a grass runway?. Those do exist. Whether they merit inclusion on the map is subjective. I think the large/medium/small size suggestion is a really good idea. In my town there's one airport that's supposedly in the middle of the golf course. There are some golf resorts with their own airstrips. But if you know the area, and know there is a golf course there and no airstrip, by all means feel free to fix the map and delete the obsolete airport item. Thanks for keeping an eye out for this stuff. - Alan -- Alan Millar a...@bolis.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source. The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network identifier[0], which makes sense, since there's a separate network tag. When I looked, though, I found a lot of relations putting it in (as well as other things, sometimes--US 1 in Maryland had a ref of US 1 (DC/MD/PA), which I moved to the name= tag (which might still be incorrect, but at least it's less incorrect)). How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the ref= tags be updated, or should the wiki be changed to document current behavior? [0] I note that this is the opposite of the ref= tag on the roads themselves, where the network info is included and it seems there are debates as to whether dashes or spaces should separate the network and number. -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Gift of the Magi LITE(tm) by O. Henry A husband and wife forget to register their gift preferences. --- -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source. The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network identifier[0], which makes sense, since there's a separate network tag. When I looked, though, I found a lot of relations putting it in (as well as other things, sometimes--US 1 in Maryland had a ref of US 1 (DC/MD/PA), which I moved to the name= tag (which might still be incorrect, but at least it's less incorrect)). in osm there is no such thing as correct. everything is allowed. there are only agreed standards. but for route relations there is just a mess. up to now they aren't used anywhere so it doesn't matter. if you prepare a good rendering it will be an incentive to standardize. How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the ref= tags be updated, or should the wiki be changed to document current behavior? wiki should be updated. reality of many mappers should rule over wiki written by one [0] I note that this is the opposite of the ref= tag on the roads themselves, where the network info is included and it seems there are debates as to whether dashes or spaces should separate the network and number. it should be easy for mappers as first priority. if it's good for software even better. with 2 tags there is no discussion about separators and it's also easier to combine them in the desired format. also typos like 2 spaces instead one will be less common -- ...computer contrarian of the first order... / http://aperiodic.net/phil/ PGP: 026A27F2 print: D200 5BDB FC4B B24A 9248 9F7A 4322 2D22 026A 27F2 --- -- Gift of the Magi LITE(tm) by O. Henry A husband and wife forget to register their gift preferences. --- -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
(sorry about the dupe - forgot to reply to all) On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the ref= tags be updated, or should the wiki be changed to document current behavior? wiki should be updated. reality of many mappers should rule over wiki written by one Sorry, but the current de facto standard is largely my doing (while completing these relations). It too is written by one, and there was some complaint about it. It shouldn't be taken as an actual agreed-on standard. [0] I note that this is the opposite of the ref= tag on the roads themselves, where the network info is included and it seems there are debates as to whether dashes or spaces should separate the network and number. it should be easy for mappers as first priority. if it's good for software even better. with 2 tags there is no discussion about separators and it's also easier to combine them in the desired format. also typos like 2 spaces instead one will be less common I think he's talking about whether there's a space or dash between US and 66. The de facto and wiki standard for US and Interstate Highways has always been a space during my time here. For lower classes there is no standard at all. Separating these into multiple tags on a way doesn't work because of overlaps: a road can be in more than one system. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
The minutes still haven't been updated in 3 months. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_SOTM Have there been meetings? Is anyone even in charge of sponsorship? On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
Steve, Sorry there haven't been meetings. We have discussed it some within the OSM US board meetings. I realize this is not very a community and should be rectified. The volunteers in Georgia have a conflict with the previous meeting time. I've been handling sponsorship, we will put up a list of sponsors once someone actually writes a check. I have verbal promises from 6 or 7 groups at the moment. Would you like to sponsor? You could be our first. -Kate On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The minutes still haven't been updated in 3 months. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_SOTM Have there been meetings? Is anyone even in charge of sponsorship? On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
The registration is $35. Sponsors could potentially offset the cost, but I think $35 is a pretty low cost. -Kate On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org http://xhema.flossk.org:8084/openx/www/delivery/ck.php?zoneid=5 Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me [image: Linkedin] http://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesmikedupont[image: Facebook] http://www.facebook.com/james.m.dupont[image: Twitter]http://twitter.com/h4ck3rm1k3[image: Google] http://www.google.com/profiles/JamesMikeDuPont#buzz On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
On Jun 15, 2010, at 6:08 PM, Kate Chapman wrote: Steve, Sorry there haven't been meetings. We have discussed it some within the OSM US board meetings. I realize this is not very a community and should be rectified. The volunteers in Georgia have a conflict with the previous meeting time. Great to hear things have been happening. I agree - there should be a separate meeting, agenda, minutes etc. There are plenty of people who can help on this list (at least, I'd hope so) if you have jobs for them, a regular schedule and a nudge or two. I've been handling sponsorship, we will put up a list of sponsors once someone actually writes a check. I have verbal promises from 6 or 7 groups at the moment. Would you like to sponsor? You could be our first. I'm pretty poor. -Kate On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The minutes still haven't been updated in 3 months. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_SOTM Have there been meetings? Is anyone even in charge of sponsorship? On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S.
I have been bringing up the meetings at the GA URISA luncheons - no one there reads the minutes or looks at the WIKI ( I asked).I would focus more on the website. Several people at the luncheons have been going there and are planning on signing up (I have the event listed on the GA URISA website) Kate - if I get people who want to volunteer at the luncheons should I forward them to you? Like I have a vote -but if I did - I vote for Steve to sponsor..SteveC sets fire to the US STOTM (We need a good Sherman reference - that goes over well in Atlanta). Randal Hale, GISP GA URISA Education and Outreach Chair (p)423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com http://www.northrivergeographic.com http://wordpress.northrivergeographic.com -Original Message- From: talk-us-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-us-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Kate Chapman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:09 PM To: SteveC Cc: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Participation at SOTM U.S. Steve, Sorry there haven't been meetings. We have discussed it some within the OSM US board meetings. I realize this is not very a community and should be rectified. The volunteers in Georgia have a conflict with the previous meeting time. I've been handling sponsorship, we will put up a list of sponsors once someone actually writes a check. I have verbal promises from 6 or 7 groups at the moment. Would you like to sponsor? You could be our first. -Kate On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The minutes still haven't been updated in 3 months. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_SOTM Have there been meetings? Is anyone even in charge of sponsorship? On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:53 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: hi, what will the entry fee cost? can we find sponsors to help cover the costs? -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova and Albania flossk.org flossal.org Chat Google Talk: JamesMikeDuPont Skype: h4ck3rm1k3 MSN: water_proof Contact Me On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Hey All, We've gotten some great submissions for talks/workshops at SOTM U.S. We could still use more! Have something you'd like to talk about regarding OSM? It could be technical, community related or even an OSM comedy routine. To participate go here: http://www.sotm.us/?page_id=2 SOTM U.S. is August 14-15 in Atlanta, Georgia. -Kate ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us have fun, Steve Coast / stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote: I started experimenting with rendering route shields the other day, and I figured it would be nice to use route relations as my source. The wiki says that the ref= tag on a relation should not include the network identifier[0], which makes sense, since there's a separate network tag. When I looked, though, I found a lot of relations putting it in (as well as other things, sometimes--US 1 in Maryland had a ref of US 1 (DC/MD/PA), which I moved to the name= tag (which might still be incorrect, but at least it's less incorrect)). How consistent are the US route relations? Should the relations with network information in the ref= tags be updated, or should the wiki be changed to document current behavior? In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US and network=US:US) * Interstate route relations offer nearly complete coverage * US route coverage is around half complete * State route coverage has a good start So, yeah, I agree with the wiki, and I see no reason to abandon the practice described therein. And to say that route relations aren't used anywhere so it doesn't matter is highly inaccurate for the part of the planet with which I'm familiar. -- David Smith a.k.a. Vid the Kid a.k.a. Bír'd'in Does this font make me look fat? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US and network=US:US) * Interstate route relations offer nearly complete coverage * US route coverage is around half complete * State route coverage has a good start Actually all mainline (unbannered) U.S. Route relations are complete in all states. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: In Ohio: * Route relation tagging consistently is as described by the wiki (with the exception of no clear agreement between network=US and network=US:US) * Interstate route relations offer nearly complete coverage * US route coverage is around half complete * State route coverage has a good start Actually all mainline (unbannered) U.S. Route relations are complete in all states. A rendering of this (along with interstates highways) would be an interesting visualization and/or picture of the week. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Jun 15, 2010 9:02pm, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Actually all mainline (unbannered) US Route relations are complete It's been a while since I've done a lot of route relation work, so I haven't really seen the progress reports on the wiki. Plus, I think whoever did much of that work on US routes neglected to update the relevant state wiki pages... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Route Relation Nitpicking
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:09 PM, vidthe...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 15, 2010 9:02pm, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: Actually all mainline (unbannered) U.S. Route relations are complete It's been a while since I've done a lot of route relation work, so I haven't really seen the progress reports on the wiki. Plus, I think whoever did much of that work on US routes neglected to update the relevant state wiki pages... So fix it. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_Numbered_Highway_Relations is up to date. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
Classifying by runway length does make some sense to me, but I really have no idea how Mapnik or any other renderer works. Not sure if this would in fact be easy or not. It also means a renderer needs the runway tagged as a way or polygon in order to make a decision. What is a renderer to do with the many small airstrips that are just tagged with a node? Should it just assume that they are minor and only render them at a low zoom? This could work…. Zeke On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Lars Ahlzen l...@ahlzen.com wrote: Anyway, I've been trying to clean up the airports a bit in my state, and I would very much like to see some form of classification like what you originally suggested. Looks like there are multiple, conflicting classifications internationally. Rather than creating another arbitrary classification and the international incidents that can come along with that, what about classifying by runway length? Once a runway is added to the db, can you not determine the length of the runway and select a suitable rendering rule based on that? Certainly a local renderer can choose to do that. A wee bit of pre-processing would let you start from runway length and assign an arbitrary classification of your choice to make your rendering simpler. For how many / what percentage of airfields would runway length not be sufficient to establish prominence? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Zeke Farwell ezeki...@gmail.com wrote: Classifying by runway length does make some sense to me, but I really have no idea how Mapnik or any other renderer works. Not sure if this would in fact be easy or not. It also means a renderer needs the runway tagged as a way or polygon in order to make a decision. What is a renderer to do with the many small airstrips that are just tagged with a node? Should it just assume that they are minor and only render them at a low zoom? This could work…. That already happens for some items in OSM. In the OSM mapnik style nodes and ways are treated individually. For example From my mapnik rules[1]: place_of_worship polygons are rendered up to scale 1:750,000 place_of_worship points are rendered up to scale 1:12,500 parking polygons are rendered up to scale 1:750,000 parking points are rendered up to scale 1:25,000 [1] these might not be identical to the current rules on OSM but are illustrative. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
