[Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Thread Nathan Edgars II
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.73928lon=-79.88822zoom=15layers=B000FTF

All around here there are missing ways. I can't tell exactly what
happened, but edits such as
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3128411 and
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3125973 (done at about
the same time) seem to have majorly screwed up the area. That's bad
enough, but if I go to edit and hit U to undelete, I can't find any of
these ways. I guess it's possible that they were never imported in the
first place, but...


http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.64047lon=-76.87988zoom=17layers=B000FTF

Here it's clearer what happened - botched dupe node deletion:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3138125
At least we've stopped that crap, but the scars remain.

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Re: [Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
most likely the way itself isn't always deleted. if a way is reduced to a one 
node way it will be just a single dot on the map. nearly impossible to edit and 
get the history without seeing a real way and where it should be.

Maybe better to revert these whole changesets. This can be tricky if people 
have started to fix things already.



On 25 Jun 2010, at 2:59 , Nathan Edgars II wrote:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.73928lon=-79.88822zoom=15layers=B000FTF
 
 All around here there are missing ways. I can't tell exactly what
 happened, but edits such as
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3128411 and
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3125973 (done at about
 the same time) seem to have majorly screwed up the area. That's bad
 enough, but if I go to edit and hit U to undelete, I can't find any of
 these ways. I guess it's possible that they were never imported in the
 first place, but...
 
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.64047lon=-76.87988zoom=17layers=B000FTF
 
 Here it's clearer what happened - botched dupe node deletion:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3138125
 At least we've stopped that crap, but the scars remain.
 
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Re: [Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Thread Nakor
If you have the way number you can try to get it back using the 
undelete plugin in JOSM.



Thanks,

N.

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Re: [Talk-us] How is it that a way is deleted but doesn't show up for undeletion? (horribly screwed up area in northern Pennsylvania)

2010-06-25 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Apollinaris Schoell
ascho...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe better to revert these whole changesets.
No can do - I don't have the programming skills to handle a revert,
and JOSM's changeset manager doesn't seem to be able to do it.

 This can be tricky if people have started to fix things already.
Yep. If I had a .osm file of the previous state I could use JOSM's
conflict resolution.

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Nakor nakor@gmail.com wrote:
 If you have the way number you can try to get it back using the undelete 
 plugin in JOSM.
Ot the undelete feature in Potlatch. But I don't have the way number.
Can you find the way that extended from
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.73928lon=-79.88822zoom=15layers=B000FTF
west-southwesterly to Blooming Valley?

But let's start with an easier problem - reverting changeset 3138125.

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Re: [Talk-us] Percentage of data imported vs mapped

2010-06-25 Thread Bill Ricker
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:56 AM, McGuire, Matthew 
matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote:

 It would be fun to see the relative state to state activity and, of course,
 compare it to international activity



not having to reverse engineer the map since the  TIGER was available (and
other sources are coming available some faster some slower Eg, MASS was
loaded from state data not Tiger) results in much more 'studio' work (fixing
TIGER overpasses to pass over not intersect, fixing TIGER ramps to intersect
the motorway so oneways go right) and much less of what the rest-of-OSM call
'real mapping' field work. Every year in any community, there are a few new
streets, some new big buildings, a few realigned intersections, but there
are no vast areas of white empty map to go on a mapping expedition.

My biggest challenge is figuring out a workflow for fixing turn restrictions
on existing intersections.


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Bill
n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com
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