Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?

2010-08-10 Thread Brian Fischer
I teach a Web Mapping class at a University and have been thinking of having a 
lesson on crowd sourcing and geowiki stuff.  I figure it might be a good way to 
introduce students to OpenStreetmap.  Is anyone aware of class lessons or 
exercises that have been developed for OpenStreetmap?

Brian Fischer, CFM  GIS Project Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
Phone: Direct: 763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734

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   1. Re: How to get college students involved? (David Fawcett)
   2. Re: Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal (take 2) (Kevin Atkinson)
   3. OSM US election update (Richard Welty)


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It would be cool to create a wiki page with ideas, resources, tips, and tricks 
for campus mapping.  The page could include links to past efforts.

David.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Sarah Manley sarah.m.man...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Stefan,
 I did some work with students back when I was with cloudmade. There 
 are a few details here:?http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education
 I can pass along the power points I made if you like (although they 
 are about a year out of date now). Just let me know. If anyone else 
 wants them, I can also try and get them up on the wiki, or am happy 
 for someone else to host them.
 Cheers,
 Sarah



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 ?Hi. The following may be outside your time and interest scope, but I 
 am interested in hearing from anybody who is willing to nibble on my 
 requests. I have never actually done any mapping work, but joined 
 this list and lurked with the hope of starting to learn about the 
 tools and issues.

 I teach computer science at a university about half way between 
 Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how 
 to get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to 
 various online data sets, or working on software that is helpful to 
 OSM and others. We have students who need senior projects, and also 
 run the occasional special topics class.

 If anybody is interested, I would like to start a dialog, or at least 
 get some pointers to the right direction.

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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:05:34 -0600 (MDT)
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal (take 2)
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I went ahead and wrote up a proposal at:
   
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Directional_Prefix_%26_Suffix_Indication

I also notice that some people are removing the directional prefixes _without_ 
storing the information in another tag.  See:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5367209

So I think it is in everyone's best interest that is proposal goes through 
ASAP, to prevent the lose of information.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Kevin Atkinson wrote:

 I'm giving this another shot, this 

Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?

2010-08-10 Thread Stefan Brandle
 On 8/10/10 7:00 AM, talk-us-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote:
 It would be cool to create a wiki page with ideas, resources, tips,
 and tricks for campus mapping.  The page could include links to past
 efforts.

Good idea. I'll have to start by learning this myself, but it would be
nice to have a wiki page with ideas as a target deliverable.

I teach computer science and want computing-related projects that can
really get the students engaged in computing. It seems that there must
be a number of very interesting projects lurking (or blatantly visible)
in mapping projects. And yes, I've been reading about the dangers of
bots on the rampage.  :-)  I was thinking more about code that reads
maps and answers questions, generates directions, etc.

-- sb

Stefan Brandle, Taylor University Computer Science and Engineering
sbran...@cse.taylor.edu, Telephone: 765-998-4685 FAX: 765-998-4940
http://www.cse.taylor.edu/~sbrandle, http://www.facebook.com/TaylorCSE



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Re: [Talk-us] Free emergency calls from payphones (was [Tagging] emergency=*)

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Mintz

At 2010-08-09 11:59, Paul Johnson wrote:

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 11:31:33 +0100, Dave F. wrote:
 On 08/08/2010 20:07, Paul Johnson wrote:
 Emergency phones would be handy, since it's increasingly common in the
 US for public pay telephones to disallow... 911 (emergency services).

 If true, I'm surprised. Which companies are doing this?

Pacific Northwest Phones (PNWP), TriMet Transit's privately owned
payphones (truly stupid given that emergency information inside transit
vehicles advertise 911 as a free call), Qwest, Verizon...really, who
isn't doing it at this point?


A quick search found this 
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court-appellate-division/1502759.html 
. VZ won the appeal in this decision for another reason, but it's clearly a 
legal requirement to provide 911 service in the state of NY:


In the early 1980s, certain pay phone service providers, known as Customer 
Owned Currency Operated Telephones (COCOT), sometimes programmed their 
phones to block coinless 911 calls. This prompted the State Legislature in 
1990 to enact section 92-c(7) of the Public Service Law, which provides 
that No . COCOT service provider shall restrict access . to any emergency 
telephone number, including, where available, 911.



In another doc, this time an appeal by Qwest in the state of WA, I find:

   WAC 480-120-263[1] became effective on July 1, 2003.   It contains 
requirements for Pay phones Service Providers (PSP) who own or operate or 
provide pay phones services in Washington.  As adopted, WAC 480-120-263 
subsections (3) and (5) read, in pertinent part, as follows:


(3)  Access.  At no charge to the calling party, pay phones must provide 
access to:


  (a) Dial tone;

(b) Emergency services by dialing 911 without the use of a coin or entering 
charge codes;




In CA, 
http://leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=47290624595+3+0+0WAISaction=retrieve 
, Cal. Pub. Util. 742(a)(2) says:


   (2) A requirement that every telephone permit a caller to be
connected with the operator personnel of any telephone corporation
authorized by the commission to operate within a service area by
dialing the numeral 0 and with the emergency services switchboard
reached by dialing the numerals 911 without insertion of any coin.


Further searching shows similar provisions in other states, with some 
obvious exceptions, like prisons, mental hospitals, etc.


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Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Mintz

At 2010-08-03 00:24, Kevin Atkinson wrote:

One more specific question below:

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Alan Mintz wrote:

2. Some, however, do use the prefix on the signs and in verbal. The 
direction appears in front of the name in the same font:

name = West 17th Street
name_prefix = W
name_prefix_included = yes
name_root = 17th
name_type = St


So what does the sign really say: W 17th St, West 17th St, etc?


It depends on which sign. From recollection, it is usually spelled out as 
West in large overhead signs, but I imagine smaller signs might abbreviate. 
In any case, I think your point was abbreviation here, which we've tabled 
(for now).


(BTW, AFAIC, feel free to edit down to the relevant portion of the post - 
it's too easy to miss small comments within large postings like these, even 
with proper indenting)


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