Re: [Talk-us] Unsigned routes (Re: shields and overlaps)
A related question is what should be done with routes that are posted only on small signs not intended for navigation. The best example of this is Pennsylvania's 'quadrant routes'. Here's an example with SR 2108 to the left (and SR 400 - the unsigned designation for PA 380 to avoid conflict with SR 380, which is I-380 - to the right): http://www.m-plex.com/roads/pamplex/treichard/pa8n_pa380w_reass.jpg And there are systems that are only marked on street signs. For example, Marion County, Florida gives most rural streets county road numbers rather than names, so a street sign will say "CR 187". In a few cases, FDOT has marked these with normal county route pentagons, but most are one-lane residential streets with only street signs. Similarly, many counties and townships in the Midwest have a numbered grid of roads marked on street signs. Several mappers (at least one of whom is non-local FKnumbers) have decided to use ref=* for these, but I doubt this is appropriate: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.6671&lon=-84.3186&zoom=13&layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.9908&lon=-87.3767&zoom=14&layers=M ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps
On 06/04/2011 01:51 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > I'm doing a little work on shield rendering for Interstate and US > Route shields, etc. > > Who has a favourite highway overlap? I'd like a few examples of each > of the following. > - two Interstates overlapping on a way > - three Interstates overlapping on a way > - combination of Interstates and US Routes totalling two or three shields > > If you could reply with a link to the way, like > http://openstreetmap.org/browse/way/ that would be awesome. Here's the trifecta: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94068558 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94068430 just slightly anticlockwise on the Inner Dispersal Loop is I 244, US 64, OK 51. Good luck! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps
On 6/5/11 10:26 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Mast wrote: I'm also leaning away from distinguishing unposted routes. I don't think they should be in the database. If they are unposted, the could be confusing to a user on the ground when included in an OSM rendering. i recommend a separate tag for unsigned routes, say ref:unsigned=NY 910F the reason for this is pretty simple. periodically mappers come along in NY and they discover the master list of touring routes, including the unsigned routes with numbers in the 900s, and they cleverly add them to the map (i can probably find several cases of this very quickly.) having a specific tag for it would hopefully serve as a vent for the urge to tag these, so that folks wouldn't add them to the ref tags, where they definitely don't belong. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps
> Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:26:25 -0400 > From: rich...@weait.com > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps > > I'm leaning away from distinguishing "Future" shields; I've already > stripped the "INTERSTATE" from the shields as it doesn't really render > all that well at 20-some pixels. ;-) On the other hand I left > "CALIFORNIA" in the CA state shields. I'm capricious. How would all > of you distinguish shield from future shield? At low pixel counts? Maybe if you could put the text "FUTURE" above the shields like in that MapQuest link in the previous e-mail. I think that would work the best. -- James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shields and overlaps
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM, James Mast wrote: > Here's some examples you could test: Great list with links. Thank you, James. Thanks to everybody for their suggestions with links. I'm leaning away from distinguishing "Future" shields; I've already stripped the "INTERSTATE" from the shields as it doesn't really render all that well at 20-some pixels. ;-) On the other hand I left "CALIFORNIA" in the CA state shields. I'm capricious. How would all of you distinguish shield from future shield? At low pixel counts? I'm also leaning away from distinguishing unposted routes. I don't think they should be in the database. If they are unposted, the could be confusing to a user on the ground when included in an OSM rendering. "This says route xyz, I was expecting $other. Did I miss a turn?" Also, what is the source for these unposted routes, if they aren't taken from direct observation of the posted signs? And how would mappers keep them up to date? That's probably an argument for another thread. Forget I said anything. Back to shields. Business-, etc. bannered shields. "Me likey." Some day. Probably not in this iteration. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
