Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like
Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: "Richard Weait" Sent: 9/12/2011 7:10 pm To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like Let's keep this more "brainstormy" and less "discuss-y and debate-y" for now, okay? Trim and add your ideas to the list for your reply. We'll come back around for discussion later. ;-) A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look like? - distinguish divided highways - distinguish toll roads - deconflict trunk / tree colors - Render shields at lower resolutions - De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. - Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged. - more road colors just because its a state highway tthat could mean something unpaved or divided limited acces - Distinguish road surface, so gravel, unpaved is obvious. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like
This might be partially a tagging issue but I think it affects rendering too. It would be nice to change the zoom level at which cities/towns are rendered in rural areas. I should not be able to get a map with no place names on it in western Kansas Toby On Sep 12, 2011 6:15 PM, "Jeffrey Ollie" wrote: ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like
If we're going to be picking apart the style.. I have a few things to add: * Trails (hiking/biking) are often darker than roadways * Limited Access highways (blue) should be darker, wider, etc.. made to stand out more * I really like the tolls idea, the data is there.. if you look at the PA/NJ bridges in open.mapquest.com versus normal mapquest.com, you'll see that the toll bridges actually show up as such in open, but not the main version. * Powerlines are cool to map, but they clutter the map a lot of the time too, they should be lighter in color * Municipalities boundaries are really interesting too, but usually they're just clutter -- Jim McAndrew On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Metcalf, Calvin (DOT) < calvin.metc...@state.ma.us> wrote: > Shields def, also using the interstate, (urbal/rural) arterial, > collectorand local nomenclature instead of trunk, primary, secondary. Fix > the labling issues related to mulitiple cities near each other (ie Cambridge > and all of the cities bordering Boston). > Sent with Verizon Mobile Email > > > ---Original Message--- > From: "Nathan Edgars II" > Sent: 9/12/2011 6:43 pm > To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like > > On 9/12/2011 5:57 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > > A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would > > look like? > > Many printed US maps emphasize divided highways (often including > undivided multilane highways). Perhaps a thicker line style at low zooms > where lanes>=4 or oneway=yes -lanes=1. > > A separate color for toll=yes (like MapQuest does, but also for toll > non-motorways). > > Fix bloody Georgia and the way the trunks (and other highways) blend > into the trees. > > Render shields at lower resolutions, since the US is not as dense as the > UK. > > De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. > > Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged (this > would be useful even in Europe). > > > Ian Dees liked the idea of fewer different colors for roads, blue / > > motorway, green / trunk, red / primary ... > > I'm not sure what the point of this would be - there's definitely enough > variation in importance for all these classifications to be useful. > > > For extra credit, can it also look good in Canada and Mexico? > > Canada and the US have rather similar road systems, so what works in one > should be good for the other. I believe Mexico has a fair number of > rural non-motorway toll roads. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] access=destination vs access=private
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 9/11/2011 6:12 PM, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II >> wrote: >>> >>> (As opposed to >>> >>> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=orlando&hl=en&ll=28.394553,-81.549518&spn=0.0168,0.041199&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=28.394524,-81.549396&panoid=f638RcwkM8_a-3tntIJmRg&cbp=12,335.79,,1,3.19 >>> which is on private property and hence presumably enforceable.) >> >> Hmm, I just looked at the Orlando Property Appraisers map, and it >> looks to me like it's right of way. What makes you say it is private >> property? >> > You must be looking at the wrong road. Except for the intersection with > Bonnet Creek Parkway and the crossing of Canal C-1, Vista Boulevard is > entirely on land owned by WALT DISNEY PARKS AND RESORTS U S INC. The fact that the land is owned by Walt Disney Parks does not preclude the fact that they have granted a right of way through it. According to Orange County property records, the 65.13 acres of land is owned by Walt Disney Parks and Resorts US Inc. However, 11 acres of it is under the land use "right of way" (the rest is wasteland or submerged). http://beta.ocpafl.org/searches/ParcelSearch.aspx?pid=28241700017 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > Let's keep this more "brainstormy" and less "discuss-y and debate-y" > for now, okay? > > Trim and add your ideas to the list for your reply. We'll come back > around for discussion later. ;-) > > A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look > like? > > - distinguish divided highways > - distinguish toll roads > - deconflict trunk / tree colors > - Render shields at lower resolutions > - De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. > - Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged > - Fewer road colors > - Distinguish road surface, so gravel, unpaved is obvious. Distinguishing level B maintenance roads would be nice too. -- Jeff Ollie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like
Let's keep this more "brainstormy" and less "discuss-y and debate-y" for now, okay? Trim and add your ideas to the list for your reply. We'll come back around for discussion later. ;-) A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look like? - distinguish divided highways - distinguish toll roads - deconflict trunk / tree colors - Render shields at lower resolutions - De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. - Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged - Fewer road colors - Distinguish road surface, so gravel, unpaved is obvious. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorm: What should a US map of OSM data look like
Let's keep this more "brainstormy" and less "discuss-y and debate-y" for now, okay? Trim and add your ideas to the list for your reply. We'll come back around for discussion later. ;-) A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look like? - distinguish divided highways - distinguish toll roads - deconflict trunk / tree colors - Render shields at lower resolutions - De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. - Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged - Fewer road colors ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like
Shields def, also using the interstate, (urbal/rural) arterial, collectorand local nomenclature instead of trunk, primary, secondary. Fix the labling issues related to mulitiple cities near each other (ie Cambridge and all of the cities bordering Boston). Sent with Verizon Mobile Email ---Original Message--- From: "Nathan Edgars II" Sent: 9/12/2011 6:43 pm To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like On 9/12/2011 5:57 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would > look like? Many printed US maps emphasize divided highways (often including undivided multilane highways). Perhaps a thicker line style at low zooms where lanes>=4 or oneway=yes -lanes=1. A separate color for toll=yes (like MapQuest does, but also for toll non-motorways). Fix bloody Georgia and the way the trunks (and other highways) blend into the trees. Render shields at lower resolutions, since the US is not as dense as the UK. De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged (this would be useful even in Europe). > Ian Dees liked the idea of fewer different colors for roads, blue / > motorway, green / trunk, red / primary ... I'm not sure what the point of this would be - there's definitely enough variation in importance for all these classifications to be useful. > For extra credit, can it also look good in Canada and Mexico? Canada and the US have rather similar road systems, so what works in one should be good for the other. I believe Mexico has a fair number of rural non-motorway toll roads. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like
On 9/12/2011 5:57 PM, Richard Weait wrote: A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look like? Many printed US maps emphasize divided highways (often including undivided multilane highways). Perhaps a thicker line style at low zooms where lanes>=4 or oneway=yes -lanes=1. A separate color for toll=yes (like MapQuest does, but also for toll non-motorways). Fix bloody Georgia and the way the trunks (and other highways) blend into the trees. Render shields at lower resolutions, since the US is not as dense as the UK. De-emphasize railways at lower zooms. Label motorways with both name and number where both are tagged (this would be useful even in Europe). > Ian Dees liked the idea of fewer different colors for roads, blue / > motorway, green / trunk, red / primary ... I'm not sure what the point of this would be - there's definitely enough variation in importance for all these classifications to be useful. > For extra credit, can it also look good in Canada and Mexico? Canada and the US have rather similar road systems, so what works in one should be good for the other. I believe Mexico has a fair number of rural non-motorway toll roads. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would > look like? > > Naturally, I think highway shields should be included. > > Lars Ahlzen suggested elevation in feet rather than metres. > > Ian Dees liked the idea of fewer different colors for roads, blue / > motorway, green / trunk, red / primary ... > > Perhaps de-emphasize pubs and make bowling alleys more prominent? > > Let's brainstorm ... what would you have OSM data look like in USA. > > For extra credit, can it also look good in Canada and Mexico? Can we > show hockey rinks? ;-) I'd like to see county borders more prominent. Also, it would be nice to have english names of places in non-english speaking locales be more prominent. -- Jeff Ollie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] What should a US map of OSM data look like
A few of us were just asking on irc what a US-style tile theme would look like? Naturally, I think highway shields should be included. Lars Ahlzen suggested elevation in feet rather than metres. Ian Dees liked the idea of fewer different colors for roads, blue / motorway, green / trunk, red / primary ... Perhaps de-emphasize pubs and make bowling alleys more prominent? Let's brainstorm ... what would you have OSM data look like in USA. For extra credit, can it also look good in Canada and Mexico? Can we show hockey rinks? ;-) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] access=destination vs access=private
On 9/11/2011 6:12 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: (As opposed to http://maps.google.com/maps?q=orlando&hl=en&ll=28.394553,-81.549518&spn=0.0168,0.041199&t=m&z=16&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=28.394524,-81.549396&panoid=f638RcwkM8_a-3tntIJmRg&cbp=12,335.79,,1,3.19 which is on private property and hence presumably enforceable.) Hmm, I just looked at the Orlando Property Appraisers map, and it looks to me like it's right of way. What makes you say it is private property? You must be looking at the wrong road. Except for the intersection with Bonnet Creek Parkway and the crossing of Canal C-1, Vista Boulevard is entirely on land owned by WALT DISNEY PARKS AND RESORTS U S INC. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
