Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
Doubt very seriously a FOIA request would work. Since the data are subject to Title XIII restrictions, it will likely take an act of Congress to make them available. Sent via telepathy. On Nov 5, 2011, at 17:13, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote: As long as we have all of the addresses, we could use satellite data to align them with houses. Is this the type of data we have in TIGER? It isn't, but I wonder whether or not a FOIA request for a list of all addresses (*without* geolocation information) would be possible. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Doubt very seriously a FOIA request would work. Since the data are subject to Title XIII restrictions, it will likely take an act of Congress to make them available. What exactly are the restrictions? I don't see how a list of all addresses, without any additional information, is a privacy issue. The fact of the matter is such a list *is already published by the USPS*, but *that* version of it isn't public domain. I'm tempted to give it a try, and even appeal if my request gets denied. Any idea where I would send the request? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: Doubt very seriously a FOIA request would work. Since the data are subject to Title XIII restrictions, it will likely take an act of Congress to make them available. What exactly are the restrictions? I don't see how a list of all addresses, without any additional information, is a privacy issue. The fact of the matter is such a list *is already published by the USPS*, but *that* version of it isn't public domain. I'm tempted to give it a try, and even appeal if my request gets denied. Any idea where I would send the request? Actually my biggest worry is that they'll approve the request, and then tell me it's going to cost tens of thousands of dollars in fees to get it. Maybe I'll start with just a small portion of the state. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
Hmm... Baldridge v Shapiro, a Supreme Court ruling: The unambiguous language of the confidentiality provisions of the Census Act -- focusing on the information or data that constitutes the statistical computation -- as well as the Act's legislative history, indicates that Congress contemplated that raw data reported by or on behalf of individuals, not just the identity of the individuals, was to be held confidential, and not available for disclosure. The master address list sought by Essex County is part of the raw census data intended by Congress to be protected under the Act. And under the Act's clear language, it is not relevant that municipalities seeking data will use it only for statistical purposes. This case was over something a little different...but that's some strong dicta. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
Any idea where I would send the request? http://www.census.gov/po/www/foia/foiaweb.htm Good luck. Census will fight the request. Earlier comments about Title XIII apply. Incidentally, what you are requesting is the MAF, or Master Address File. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address improvement through imports?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea where I would send the request? http://www.census.gov/po/www/foia/foiaweb.htm Good luck. Census will fight the request. Earlier comments about Title XIII apply. Based on that Supreme Court ruling, and the actual text of the law, I'm not going to bother. Thank you, though. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
