[Talk-us] trying to figure out the former path of a trolley line in Derry/Londonderry, NH

2012-08-07 Thread Peter Dobratz
I'm updating parts of the map in my local area (Derry and Londonderry, NH)
and it looks like there was definitely a railroad of some kind here before.

There's a dirt path here:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89361695
This connects to a road called Trolley Car Lane:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/18863837

If you look at the Bing image layer, you can see a line of trees that run
behind 109 Hillside Avenue in Londonderry and then intersect Wyman Street
in Derry.  Apart from that I can't see any traces of the railway from the
aerial photos.

There aren't any plaques on the ground or anything to explain what was once
here.  Trying some internet searches, I can't seem to find any additional
information about this former railway.  Does anyone have any ideas about
where to look to find more information?

Thanks,
Peter
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Re: [Talk-us] trying to figure out the former path of a trolley line in Derry/Londonderry, NH

2012-08-07 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote:
 I'm updating parts of the map in my local area (Derry and Londonderry, NH)
 and it looks like there was definitely a railroad of some kind here before.

 There's a dirt path here:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89361695
 This connects to a road called Trolley Car Lane:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/18863837

 If you look at the Bing image layer, you can see a line of trees that run
 behind 109 Hillside Avenue in Londonderry and then intersect Wyman Street in
 Derry.  Apart from that I can't see any traces of the railway from the
 aerial photos.

 There aren't any plaques on the ground or anything to explain what was once
 here.  Trying some internet searches, I can't seem to find any additional
 information about this former railway.  Does anyone have any ideas about
 where to look to find more information?

Old maps in the local library.

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Re: [Talk-us] trying to figure out the former path of a trolley line in Derry/Londonderry, NH

2012-08-07 Thread the Old Topo Depot
I'd suggest the USGS Store map locator (
http://store.usgs.gov/b2c_usgs/usgs/maplocator/(xcm=r3standardpitrex_prdlayout=6_1_61_48uiarea=2ctype=areaDetailscarea=%24ROOT)/.do
)
 to get a list/images of current and historic sheets or the area.

Sanborn Fire Insurance maps are a go to source as well, but as they're
under copyright they cannot be traced for OSM.

On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote:
  I'm updating parts of the map in my local area (Derry and Londonderry,
 NH)
  and it looks like there was definitely a railroad of some kind here
 before.
 
  There's a dirt path here:
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89361695
  This connects to a road called Trolley Car Lane:
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/18863837
 
  If you look at the Bing image layer, you can see a line of trees that run
  behind 109 Hillside Avenue in Londonderry and then intersect Wyman
 Street in
  Derry.  Apart from that I can't see any traces of the railway from the
  aerial photos.
 
  There aren't any plaques on the ground or anything to explain what was
 once
  here.  Trying some internet searches, I can't seem to find any additional
  information about this former railway.  Does anyone have any ideas about
  where to look to find more information?

 Old maps in the local library.

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Re: [Talk-us] non-round roundabouts

2012-08-07 Thread David ``Smith''
Seems to me the simplest solution would be to map the two roundabouts as
one peanut-shaped roundabout: narrow, but not self-intersecting, in the
middle.
On Aug 7, 2012 12:39 AM, Dion Dock dion_d...@comcast.net wrote:

 Maybe you've seen this before, but I haven't.  Here are some roundabouts
 that are teardrop shaped; the intersection somewhat resembles a dumbbell.
  Is there supposed to be a no left turn restriction?  Are these even
 roundabouts?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.92721lon=-122.75631zoom=16layers=M

 -Dion

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Re: [Talk-us] trying to figure out the former path of a trolley line in Derry/Londonderry, NH

2012-08-07 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote:

 I'm updating parts of the map in my local area (Derry and Londonderry, NH)
 and it looks like there was definitely a railroad of some kind here before.

 There's a dirt path here:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89361695
 This connects to a road called Trolley Car Lane:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/18863837

 If you look at the Bing image layer, you can see a line of trees that run
 behind 109 Hillside Avenue in Londonderry and then intersect Wyman Street
 in Derry.  Apart from that I can't see any traces of the railway from the
 aerial photos.

 There aren't any plaques on the ground or anything to explain what was
 once here.  Trying some internet searches, I can't seem to find any
 additional information about this former railway.  Does anyone have any
 ideas about where to look to find more information?


The USGS topos have a line marked OLD RAILROAD GRADE in that vicinity:

http://tile.osm.osuosl.org/tiles/usgs_scanned_topos/preview.html#15/42.8951/-71.3664
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