[Talk-us] Chicago Buildings Redux
Hi imports, Earlier last year I downloaded the Chicago building footprints shapefile [0] from the Chicago data portal, chopped it into manageable bits and started importing it into OSM. Halfway through the process of merging and uploading this data I read the data portal's license [1] closer, discovering a clause that makes the datasets offered there incompatible with OSM. The troublesome clause allows the City of Chicago to require removal of any City data at any point in the future: "The City may require a user of this data to terminate any and all display, distribution or other use of any or all of the data provided at this website for any reason including, without limitation, violation of these Terms of Use or other terms as defined by City agencies or departments contributing data to this website." When I noticed this I immediately stopped uploading data and began a conversation with the city's data team to discuss ways OSM could move forward with using the datasets listed on the portal. After several months of phone calls, meetings, and waiting, I'm pleased to announce that the City of Chicago has started to release some of its datasets under the MIT license on GitHub: [2]. As a result of this new license, I will be able to continue importing the excellent buildings and address data into OSM (more on that later) and businesses will be able to use this data in their apps and tools without worrying about an untested license. I'm pretty excited about this, as Chicago is seen as a leader in municipal data and other OSM/Open Data folks can point to this as proof that open licensing is a very important part of open data. -Ian [0] https://data.cityofchicago.org/Buildings/Building-Footprints/w2v3-isjw [1] http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/narr/foia/data_disclaimer.html [2] https://github.com/chicago/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from Google Maps. http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemapmaker&lon=-75.5301&lat=40.07484&zoom=16 While it doesn't look exact on the curves, the places where the ramps start/end/merge seems to be an exact match to Google's. The only reason I'm bringing this up is because of Bing Imagery not even showing the construction, let along the completion, of this new interchange on the PA Turnpike (I-76). This interchange was added in Changeset 14937179. - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14937179 Anybody else have a comment on this changeset. Also, anybody who has previous experence with the user that did this change be willing to contact him? --James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
If I weren't confined to my phone right now, I'd check it myself, but are there any GPS tracks along the new interchange? On Feb 20, 2013 9:58 PM, "James Mast" wrote: > I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from > Google Maps. > > > http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemapmaker&lon=-75.5301&lat=40.07484&zoom=16 > > While it doesn't look exact on the curves, the places where the ramps > start/end/merge seems to be an exact match to Google's. The only reason > I'm bringing this up is because of Bing Imagery not even showing the > construction, let along the completion, of this new interchange on the PA > Turnpike (I-76). > > This interchange was added in Changeset 14937179. - > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14937179 > > Anybody else have a comment on this changeset. Also, anybody who has > previous experence with the user that did this change be willing to contact > him? > > --James > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Chicago Buildings Redux
That is incredibly encouraging news, congrats on the win! A few years back I started a small discussion on Talk-US on whether or not the NYC data license was usable as it has a very similar, if not identical, clause in their own license (The conclusion was the same as yours). I'm curious if this is perhaps a term that Socrata offers in their configuration that cities and municipalities opt-in for. In any case, thanks for sharing this news.. Definitely something I'll add to my mental list of open data success stories :) -Skye On Feb 20, 2013, at 10:31 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > Hi imports, > > Earlier last year I downloaded the Chicago building footprints shapefile [0] > from the Chicago data portal, chopped it into manageable bits and started > importing it into OSM. Halfway through the process of merging and uploading > this data I read the data portal's license [1] closer, discovering a clause > that makes the datasets offered there incompatible with OSM. The troublesome > clause allows the City of Chicago to require removal of any City data at any > point in the future: > > "The City may require a user of this data to terminate any and all display, > distribution or other use of any or all of the data provided at this website > for any reason including, without limitation, violation of these Terms of Use > or other terms as defined by City agencies or departments contributing data > to this website." > > When I noticed this I immediately stopped uploading data and began a > conversation with the city's data team to discuss ways OSM could move forward > with using the datasets listed on the portal. > > After several months of phone calls, meetings, and waiting, I'm pleased to > announce that the City of Chicago has started to release some of its datasets > under the MIT license on GitHub: [2]. > > As a result of this new license, I will be able to continue importing the > excellent buildings and address data into OSM (more on that later) and > businesses will be able to use this data in their apps and tools without > worrying about an untested license. > > I'm pretty excited about this, as Chicago is seen as a leader in municipal > data and other OSM/Open Data folks can point to this as proof that open > licensing is a very important part of open data. > > -Ian > > [0] https://data.cityofchicago.org/Buildings/Building-Footprints/w2v3-isjw > [1] http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/narr/foia/data_disclaimer.html > [2] https://github.com/chicago/ > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high zoom as under construction. Is this possibly entered both places by the same person? Regardless it should still be looked into. On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Clay Smalley wrote: > If I weren't confined to my phone right now, I'd check it myself, but are > there any GPS tracks along the new interchange? > On Feb 20, 2013 9:58 PM, "James Mast" wrote: > >> I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from >> Google Maps. >> >> >> http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemapmaker&lon=-75.5301&lat=40.07484&zoom=16 >> >> While it doesn't look exact on the curves, the places where the ramps >> start/end/merge seems to be an exact match to Google's. The only reason >> I'm bringing this up is because of Bing Imagery not even showing the >> construction, let along the completion, of this new interchange on the PA >> Turnpike (I-76). >> >> This interchange was added in Changeset 14937179. - >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14937179 >> >> Anybody else have a comment on this changeset. Also, anybody who has >> previous experence with the user that did this change be willing to contact >> him? >> >> --James >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Dale Puch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
Ahh nevermind, I just logged into mapmaker and the only user edits there were POI's On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:37 PM, Dale Puch wrote: > I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high > zoom as under construction. Is this possibly entered both places by the > same person? > > Regardless it should still be looked into. > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Clay Smalley wrote: > >> If I weren't confined to my phone right now, I'd check it myself, but are >> there any GPS tracks along the new interchange? >> On Feb 20, 2013 9:58 PM, "James Mast" wrote: >> >>> I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from >>> Google Maps. >>> >>> >>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemapmaker&lon=-75.5301&lat=40.07484&zoom=16 >>> >>> While it doesn't look exact on the curves, the places where the ramps >>> start/end/merge seems to be an exact match to Google's. The only reason >>> I'm bringing this up is because of Bing Imagery not even showing the >>> construction, let along the completion, of this new interchange on the PA >>> Turnpike (I-76). >>> >>> This interchange was added in Changeset 14937179. - >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14937179 >>> >>> Anybody else have a comment on this changeset. Also, anybody who has >>> previous experence with the user that did this change be willing to contact >>> him? >>> >>> --James >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >>> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> > > > -- > Dale Puch > -- Dale Puch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 23:37:00 -0500 > From: dale.p...@gmail.com > To: claysmal...@gmail.com > CC: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com; talk-us@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps > I see it shows up on google mapmaker, but not google maps except at high zoom > as under construction. Is this possibly entered both places by the same > person? > Regardless it should still be looked into. Believe it or not, but I think the "Map Maker" and the "Map" labels are swapped in the Map Comparing tool. The reason I'm saying this is because when I look on the main Google Maps site, the interchange shows up perfectly fine. - http://goo.gl/maps/Fml2P --James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps
The user who added the interchange has no GPS traces listed for his account. --James Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:05:52 -0600 From: claysmal...@gmail.com To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Possible coping from Google Maps If I weren't confined to my phone right now, I'd check it myself, but are there any GPS tracks along the new interchange? On Feb 20, 2013 9:58 PM, "James Mast" wrote: I just happened to spot a place where there is a possible coping from Google Maps. http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemapmaker&lon=-75.5301&lat=40.07484&zoom=16 While it doesn't look exact on the curves, the places where the ramps start/end/merge seems to be an exact match to Google's. The only reason I'm bringing this up is because of Bing Imagery not even showing the construction, let along the completion, of this new interchange on the PA Turnpike (I-76). This interchange was added in Changeset 14937179. - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14937179 Anybody else have a comment on this changeset. Also, anybody who has previous experence with the user that did this change be willing to contact him? --James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
