Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris-- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Does anyone else besides me keep imaging Pavel Chekov (from original-series Star Trek) announcing shields are up with a heavy Russian accent? Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
On 8/6/13 10:49 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us http://osm.us tile server. there are a number of things still to be resolved in many places. the thing to do is identify problems and then pitch in fixing them. a couple of upstate NY mappers and i are working to deal with what we're seeing around here, which involves a combination of fixing/adding relations and helping to complete the shield definitions. the same thing needs to be done in a lot of places, and probably is best addressed by moving off list into direct communication with Phil and Toby. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up!
Sorry, that was supposed to say imagining, not imaging. John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Does anyone else besides me keep imaging Pavel Chekov (from original-series Star Trek) announcing shields are up with a heavy Russian accent? Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Strangely, the Oklahoma Turnpikes that have relations aren't showing up on the osm.us tile server. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: In a previous e-mail to the list, he said that relations for Turnpikes were based off the name tag for the relation, while the ones that had numbers shields were based off the network + ref tags in the relations avoiding the name tag entirely. -James -- From: lordsu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 23:30:24 -0500 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Shields are up! On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I'm curious, but has a solution been found for the problem with the PA Turnpike because of having to split up the ways into separate ones for each direction because of the relation getting close to the 1000 way limit we've imposed? I still think that using the super relation I created to tie the route together could be used instead for applying the shields over the separate ways for each direction. I'm not sure why/how directional relations would be a problem; I have the signed part of I-22 labeled with separate east/west relations yet there aren't 2x the number of I-22 shields as there are US 78 shields (which is a single relation). http://tile.openstreetmap.us/osmus_shields/preview.html#13/33.6875/-87.0588 (For routing applications we probably want directional relations anyway, since directional heuristics based on geography aren't always right in terms of the signed/logical route direction.) Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity
This might be worth looking at: http://trailbehind.wpengine.com/data-for-black-rock-city-burning-man-2013/ https://github.com/trailbehind/iBurn-maps From the blog post: You can use these resources for any project you wish. We consider it all to be open and free, in the spirit of the event On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Yea, 2008/2009 is now in OpenHistoricalMap (site down now of course!). I'd like to get all the past years in there too. Even Mike's 2001 experience ;). We could remove these from OSM ... but I only think it's worth it after this years BRC is up there. I can lend some advice for this year, but don't have time to do the process directly. In years past, we got details on the center, orientation, width and names of streets, and some core infastructure like airport, toilets, burn barrels .. pretty early, from the DPW. From that, we calculated the street networks, etc, and not a problem to put on OSM. The other big data set is from artery, the location of art works ... which does change on the playa from the plans ... but usually no issue to publish as soon as available. The tricky data set is theme camp sites, which is usually published as both coordinates, and as a image showing the precise layout of each camp ... and that has been traced into OSM (there's definitely a better way, see Jeff's comment about us no longer being involved ;). This camp data is embargoed until gates open, as everyone gets pissy about their camp placement, and makes it all more tricky to manage on OSM. I don't know what the current state of things is. Andrew would definitely know the deal. Sounds like Jeff might have some data despite himself. * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron -- *From:* Kathleen Danielson kathleen.daniel...@gmail.com *To:* Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com *Cc:* Open Street Map Talk-US talk-us@openstreetmap.org *Sent:* Monday, August 5, 2013 3:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity Clay, does this give you something to work with? On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote: I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first last: 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry! -mike. On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get everything together so it can go into the map. Jeff On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com wrote: I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those '08/'09 efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would take to re-do it for 2013. -- SEJ -- twitter: @geomantic -- skype: sejohnson8 There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com wrote: So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are old versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this is? Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city? I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for OSM, if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning Man. Not to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would probably rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about OSM. It brings in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to their respective communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM mapping. Just ranting a pipe dream. Does this sound realistic? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us michal migurski- contact info and pgp key: sf/cahttp://mike.teczno.com/contact.html ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us michal migurski- contact info and pgp key: sf/ca
