Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?
I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a node type of becomes indistinct, or dead end. How to mark the way is trickier. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
And it has proper credit for osm. Awesome! *Regards,* *Hans* On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Michael Patrick geodes...@gmail.com wrote: Michaels craft stores http://www.michaels.com/store-locator ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Jo-Ann Fabric, Michael's. OSM is used for the base map with the store location placemarks as an overlay. You can tell that they are not utilizing the OSM data for the store locations because if you look closely you can see that their placemarks don't always line up with the actual locations of the stores in OSM. --Peter On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com wrote: And it has proper credit for osm. Awesome! *Regards,* *Hans* On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Michael Patrick geodes...@gmail.com wrote: Michaels craft stores http://www.michaels.com/store-locator ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Jo-Ann Fabric, Michael's. OSM is used for the base map with the store location placemarks as an overlay. You can tell that they are not utilizing the OSM data for the store locations because if you look closely you can see that their placemarks don't always line up with the actual locations of the stores in OSM. --Peter I had noticed that the nearest Michael's to me had the pin in the wrong part of the shopping center (I am the one that mapped that Michael's location for OSM and am pretty sure I have it right). Just looked at the Trader Joe's web site and it looks like they are using background map data from NAVTEQ. But they also have the store nearest me in the wrong location. :)___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Peter Dobratz pe...@dobratz.us wrote: The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Jo-Ann Fabric, Michael's. OSM is used for the base map with the store location placemarks as an overlay. You can tell that they are not utilizing the OSM data for the store locations because if you look closely you can see that their placemarks don't always line up with the actual locations of the stores in OSM. Ironically, Where 2 Get It uses google to display their own location. Go to their about page, http://www.where2getit.com/about/, scroll down to the bottom of the page. The map link under VIsit Us, is a google search. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
I'll be out on a limb and say that the reason is because they know not all locations for a particular business are mapped in OSM and so they don't want to rely on OSM for the actual locations. Which begs the question of why Where 2 Get It doesn't edit OSM themselves to add the locations (which I will answer by saying that W2GI knows that they aren't familiar enough with all the areas to do it properly). -jack On December 22, 2014 10:44:12 AM EST, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Jo-Ann Fabric, Michael's. OSM is used for the base map with the store location placemarks as an overlay. You can tell that they are not utilizing the OSM data for the store locations because if you look closely you can see that their placemarks don't always line up with the actual locations of the stores in OSM. --Peter I had noticed that the nearest Michael's to me had the pin in the wrong part of the shopping center (I am the one that mapped that Michael's location for OSM and am pretty sure I have it right). Just looked at the Trader Joe's web site and it looks like they are using background map data from NAVTEQ. But they also have the store nearest me in the wrong location. :) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?
On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a node type of becomes indistinct, or dead end. How to mark the way is trickier. perhaps a new access tag.. access=deprecated access=not_recommended something else? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?
access=use_at_your_own_risk access=two_paths_diverged_in_a_yellow_wood access=choose_wisely access=plugh access=xyzzy ? -jack On December 22, 2014 10:06:15 AM EST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a node type of becomes indistinct, or dead end. How to mark the way is trickier. perhaps a new access tag.. access=deprecated access=not_recommended something else? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?
Access tags seem inappropriate to me in this case. I would only tag the last node as noexit=yes (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:noexit) as a way of making clear that the trail does indeed end and hasn't just not been mapped. Leave the rest to the users of the map -- maybe there is actually a great spot for hunting/geocaching/sunbathing/beaver watching/ mushroom foraging at the end of the trail that you just don't know about. Harald. On Mon Dec 22 2014 at 11:54:58 AM Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: access=use_at_your_own_risk access=two_paths_diverged_in_a_yellow_wood access=choose_wisely access=plugh access=xyzzy ? -jack On December 22, 2014 10:06:15 AM EST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: On 12/22/14 3:27 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a node type of becomes indistinct, or dead end. How to mark the way is trickier. perhaps a new access tag.. access=deprecated access=not_recommended something else? richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Beaver dam? Wrecked bridge? Hallucinatory roads in TIGER?
Bryce writes: I've frequently wanted to map the trails that peter out for exactly the reason you state. The choices as a mapper seem wrong: 1) Map the trail : thus encouraging use of a flawed route. 2) Don't map the trail. The casual map reader thinks OSM is missing something. Possible solutions include a node type of becomes indistinct, or dead end. I have seen mapped (and done so myself) to good effect the tag noexit=yes at the end of such a path. This might or might not render (depends) similar to the German Dead End sign. How to mark the way is trickier. I have used tag trail_visibility [excellent, good, intermediate, bad, horrible, no] in decreasing quality to denote paths which eventually disappear. I appreciate that our wiki characterizes no as mostly pathless and that excellent orientational skills are required. This allows either a turn-back or bushwhacking, as the hiker desires. SteveA California ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Retail Example using OSM
It seems like it's a little out of date too, it doesn't include all the buildings in Washington, DC, which were imported a month or so ago. Maybe they get a regular dump or something. In any case, cool to see! Andrew On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: I'll be out on a limb and say that the reason is because they know not all locations for a particular business are mapped in OSM and so they don't want to rely on OSM for the actual locations. Which begs the question of why Where 2 Get It doesn't edit OSM themselves to add the locations (which I will answer by saying that W2GI knows that they aren't familiar enough with all the areas to do it properly). -jack On December 22, 2014 10:44:12 AM EST, Tod Fitch t...@fitchdesign.com wrote: On Dec 22, 2014, at 7:36 AM, Peter Dobratz wrote: The company providing the service is Where 2 Get It ( http://www.where2getit.com/ ). They provide maps for store locator functions for a number of companies. For example: Moe's Southwest Grill, Safeway, Trader Joe's, Jo-Ann Fabric, Michael's. OSM is used for the base map with the store location placemarks as an overlay. You can tell that they are not utilizing the OSM data for the store locations because if you look closely you can see that their placemarks don't always line up with the actual locations of the stores in OSM. --Peter I had noticed that the nearest Michael's to me had the pin in the wrong part of the shopping center (I am the one that mapped that Michael's location for OSM and am pretty sure I have it right). Just looked at the Trader Joe's web site and it looks like they are using background map data from NAVTEQ. But they also have the store nearest me in the wrong location. :) -- Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Typos courtesy of fancy auto-spell technology. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- 600,000 DC residents don't have a vote in Congress -- http://www.dcvote.org/ http://www.dcvote.org/about/index.cfm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
