Re: [Talk-us] Map Roulette Idea - GNIS "parks"

[Mike Thompson]

Sorry for the delay in responding to the thread I started...

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Russell Deffner 
wrote:

>  I am sure you probably know this, but maybe others on the list do not –
> if you’ve seen/heard of the cartoon “South Park” – it’s actually named
> after one of those geographic features described in that second definition
>
Great example that many people can probably relate to.  There is also a
"North Park" (on CO 14 West of Cameron Pass).


> ; this one:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3387601#map=10/39.1482/-105.8945 –
> which is my handy work, and no, it’s not ‘complete’ and yes it is a bit
> hard to define; but ask any local and they’ll know the general area that is
> ‘South Park’ the ‘flat part’ surrounded by mountains. I’m actually mapping
> the ‘interior features’ first (such as residential and smaller forested
> areas) before ‘stretching the park polygon over top.’
>
Nice work, and I am glad that someone is putting these "parks" on the map.
I have always considered these "parks" to have no hard boundary (sort of
like a valley), and so was unsure of how to map them.  I do think that
these "parks", along with valleys and a few other named geographic features
should be in OSM.

>
>
>
> I have the relation tagged with name=South Park and natural=grassland
> because in my opinion that is what is ‘most common’ as far as a ‘defining
> map feature’ besides the relatively – but definitely not consistent –
> elevation. However, now I wonder if creating natural=park or a similar tag
> might be better.
>
I don't know about "natural=grassland", by definition a "park" is "mostly
open", and that openness could be tundra, marsh or bare rock as well as
grassland. On the other hand I see "natural=park" creating confusion, as
people will start using it for recreation areas.

>
>
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Greg Troxel  wrote:

>
> I see these parks (e.g. Estes Park, Colorado) as sort of being
> geographical features like hills and sort of being (not necesssarily
> settlement-based) place names.   So maybe changing them to
> place=locality, and maybe also adding some sort of natural=flats tag.
>
 This seems to be a good idea until such time as there a better tag. Small
detail, "flats" should probably be "flat" to be consistent with other tags.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Steven Johnson  wrote:

> I would think USGS might even be interested in some sort of collaboration
> to clean up all the GNIS points.
>
You have a great idea, however, they have an issue with ODbL  Very
frustrating.

Mike
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[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2015-10-07

[Dave Hansen]

These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-10-07

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-10-07/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2015-10-07

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a >2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

-- Dave


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