Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

2018-06-09 Thread Bryan Housel
> I'm also interested in how others feel about Slack. Is it good for the 
> community or should we look elsewhere?

Glad you asked!  I think Slack has changed the way I work for the better.

Here are some advantages..
* lower barrier to entry for less technical folks
* great mobile experience
* good for sharing files / screenshots
* works well for both sync and async chat
* emoji reactions, can be used to both cut down on noise comments but also mark 
things as read (like our welcome users feed)
* integration with basically everything (GitHub, Stripe, RSS anything you want 
really)
* easy to start focused public or private channels and pull a few people in to 
a discussion
* ability to mute and set availability times
* user profiles
* decent search
* everyone is on it

I really can’t imagine going back to something else.  I’d happily pay for it if 
they asked me to.

Anyway, I felt it important to speak up because I’ve noticed a very common 
situation when asking for people’s opinion about something, the people who are 
happy will stay silent, and the few who have a problem will be the ones who 
respond.

There are currently over 800 people on the OSM-US Slack, and over 3000 on the 
GIS Spatial Community Slack.  I have no idea how many people are subscribed to 
the talk-us mailing list.  

I don’t think we should get rid of mailing lists.  We should still copy things 
to the talk-us mailing that affect the entire US community.

Just my thoughts
Thanks, Bryan




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[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2018-06-07

2018-06-09 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-06-07

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-06-07/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2018-06-07

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a >2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

-- Dave


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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #411 2018-05-29-2018-06-04

2018-06-09 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 411,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of all things 
happening in the openstreetmap world:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/10415/

Enjoy!

weeklyOSM? 
who?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

2018-06-09 Thread Paul Norman

On 2018-06-09 1:19 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:

Apart from the reasons you mentioned, having a record is also an
important factor. Anything that has gone on on these mailing lists is
practically archived forever and for all to see


This is also a good reason to ask questions on something other than 
Slack, if someone else might have the same question. A question on 
help.osm.org, an issue tracker, stackexchange, mailing lists, forums or, 
something else publicly archived can be found in the future by someone 
who has a similar question in the future.


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Re: [Talk-us] Slack: Do we need an Alternative (was Planning an import in Price George...)

2018-06-09 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

On 06/09/2018 04:31 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> I have objections to the use of Slack in particular, and to the use of
> real-time communication tools in general (not just Slack but other tools
> like IRC, HipChat, Rocket.Chat etc.).

I think that while it would be ok for any of these to be used by a
smaller group to actually do some work, the smaller group should come
back to the mailing list for anything of importance. (The same applies
to in-person meetings btw, for example if you were to try and get an
import approved at a SotM conference or so.)

For example, a process where someone pops up on the mailing list and
says "I have this data but I don't know how to import, can someone
help", and then a smaller group huddles together on Slack/IRC/in a pub
to flesh out a proposal, which then goes back to the mailing list for
approval or feedback, would be totally ok and likely more productive
than going every step on the mailing list. But what you can't do of
course is say "we discussed this on Slack and decided we want to do it
that way, now be quiet you weren't there" when someone suggests an
improvement on the list later.

Apart from the reasons you mentioned, having a record is also an
important factor. Anything that has gone on on these mailing lists is
practically archived forever and for all to see[*] but when I'm told "we
discussed this on Slack" I have no chance of checking if there was
indeed a discussion or just one guy with a big mouth and two of his pals
applauding ;)

Bye
Frederik

[*] minus things like the EU data protection regulations forcing us to
remove someone who wants to be forgotten - but they will live on in my
personal email folder, har har.

-- 
Frederik Ramm  ##  eMail frede...@remote.org  ##  N49°00'09" E008°23'33"

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