Re: [Talk-us] Combined parking/bike lanes

[David Chiles]

Would the following tags work?

parking:lane:(right/left) = parallel
cycleway:(left/right) = lane

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dlane

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Spencer Gardner 
wrote:

> Hi all. Has anyone worked out a good tagging scheme for combined
> bike/parking lanes? I'm not sure how common they are elsewhere but there
> are a number of such facilities in my city.
>
> For reference, you can see an example here:
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=43.06056159=-89.45121134=17=
> XByvWxyrk9quLK-noyoB5g=photo=mapbox_streets
> Notice the bike lane sign above the speed limit sign and the cars parked
> on the side. These are also accompanied with pavement markings indicating
> it is a bicycle facility. In effect it's like a regular bike lane next to a
> parking lane, but there's no stripe to separate the two.
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Re: [Talk-us] highway=service + landuse=residential

[David Chiles]

both the use of landuse=residential overall and highway=service for foot
paths are a bit strange.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 3:34 PM, Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> Interesting - mapping curb to curb. I doubt it could be used for routing
> but it sure renders [1] nice.
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/38868796#map=18/34.15966/-117.41187
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>
>> I don't think this is a great combination of tags?
>>
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/gNy
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>> Ideas? Is this mapper on this list?
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Re: [Talk-us] FW: Dakota County, MN Street Data Available

[David Chiles]

Joe this looks really great!

Do you plan on releasing the scripts/queries or process you used to compare
the two datasets?

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Joe Sapletal 
wrote:

>
>
>
>
> *From: *Joe Sapletal 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:54 PM
> *To: *Clifford Snow 
> *Subject: *RE: [Talk-us] Dakota County, MN Street Data Available
>
>
>
> We do, it is owned by the County and falls under the open data policy.
> The intent was to make it available to everyone.  The imagery and a whole
> pile of other datasets were provided to Esri for inclusion into their
> basemaps and we are looking for others to take the data and incorporate it
> into their basemaps.
>
>
>
> *Dakota County GIS Database Disclaimer*
> NOTICE: Dakota County Geographic Information System (GIS) Data are made
> available pursuant to the Minnesota Government Data Practices Act
> (Minnesota Statutes Chapter 13) THE GIS DATA ARE PROVIDED TO YOU AS IS AND
> WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY AS TO THEIR PERFORMANCE, MERCHANTABILITY, OR FITNESS
> FOR ANY PARTICULAR PURPOSE. The GIS Data were developed by Dakota County
> (“County”) for their own internal business purposes. The County does not
> represent or warrant that the GIS Data or the data documentation are
> error-free, complete, current, or accurate. You are responsible for any
> consequences resulting from your use of the GIS Data or your reliance on
> the GIS Data. You should consult the data documentation for this particular
> GIS Data to determine the limitations of the GIS Data and the precision
> with which the GIS Data may depict distance, direction, location, or other
> geographic features. If you transmit or provide the GIS Data (or any
> portion of it) to another user, you must provide a copy of this disclaimer
> and the accompanying metadata for this dataset to the user.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> *From: *Clifford Snow 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:11 PM
> *To: *Joe Sapletal 
> *Cc: *talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-us] Dakota County, MN Street Data Available
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Joe Sapletal 
> wrote:
>
> The repository also notes the URL for the 2015 Air Photo for use in JOSM.
> I’ve used it, lines up nicely despite the warnings.
>
>
> Joe,
>
> Could you confirm that we have the right to trace the 2015 Air Photo
> imagery for use in OpenStreetMap.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clifford
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Re: [Talk-us] Downgrading 'motorways' around toll plazas?

[David Chiles]

I also don't think it's reasonable to represent every lane of a toll booth
as a different way or as trunk. I've also tried to contact this user and
received no response.

I think a better representation is using the lanes tag and
or  maxspeed:advisory.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Greg Troxel  wrote:

>
> James Mast  writes:
>
> > Does anybody think it is a good idea to downgrade 'motorways' around
> > toll plazas to 'trunk' highways?  I just noticed a user did this in
> > mass in NY and MA along I-90/I-87. [1] [2] He's even done this in PA a
> > few times. [3]
>
> No, this is not reasonable.  While one might object philosophically to a
> tollbooth on an Interstate highway, that's the way the world is, and
> noting it as a tollbooth is adequate.
>
> > I've also noticed several problematic changesets this user has done in
> > the past.  I've left several comments on some of his changesets [4]
> > [5] and he's never responded to them except once, and that was after
> > sending him a few PM's (1 per month) till he finally responded only
> > partially to my question in it. [6] That leads me to believe that he's
> > either completely ignoring the e-mails, or he's not even getting them.
> > Also, in that one comment that he did leave (in [6]), he pretty much
> > completely ignored my question (if he had been there and saw shields
> > for this 'new' route since I don't want to delete 'valid' data) and
> > said that he works '12 hour days'.  Honestly, if he can still find
> > time to do big OSM edits and work for 12 hours a day, can't he spare a
> > minute or two to respond to a comment left for him instead of taking 2
> > months to reply?  I mean, even if I was busy and somebody left a
> > comment on a changeset I did, I would try to make a few minutes to
> > respond back within a day or two (week tops) of the comment.  This is
> > a community project and everybody needs to work together and not
> > ignore each other.
>
> I agree that we should have higher expectations of people working within
> the project vs just editing by themselves.
>
> > Another problem with this user is that he almost always keeps using
> > the same changeset comment of "using bing imagery to update map" which
> > is completely useless to tell what he's really doing in each
> > changeset.
>
> I also agree that we should have higher expectations of both
> geographically smaller changesets (except in limited cases where they
> are clearly completely uncontroversial) and more descriptive comments.
> Unfortunately it seems that making edits without being willing to engage
> with others and non-useful changeset comments are correlated.
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Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

[David Chiles]

The satellite imagery is not correct since the city moves locations each
year, as described by the golden spike info.

I'm totally onboard with OpenStreetMap being for things that are on the
ground. The city is being built now and the streets are being laid out. My
question is more about whether generated streets are a good enough source
for adding to OpenStreetMap since a survey is not possible.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Andy Townsend ajt1...@gmail.com wrote:

 ‎(apologies if this has already been mentioned but) perhaps this is
 something that makes sense for OpenHistoricalMap?

 Ask a help question along the lines of how do I add time-dependant data
 to OHM, perhaps clarifying that the ways for previous years are in OSM but
 are deleted, and I'm sure someone will pop up and explain how.

 Cheers,
 Andy


   Original Message
 From: Frederik Ramm
 Sent: Thursday, 30 July 2015 10:46
 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

 Hi,

 On 07/29/2015 07:07 PM, David Chiles wrote:
  In the past Black Rock City was included in OpenStreetMap. Is the
  generated layout something that could be added?

 OpenStreetMap focuses on things that are on the ground, not things that
 were or will be on the ground.

 There are some exception to this, for example there are tags to map
 things that are planned but don't yet exist; this is not encouraged
 for widespread use but might be applicable to Burning Man.

 For maximum flexibility independent of OSM's old-fashioned adherence to
 physical realities, I'd suggest to set up your own instance of an OSM
 server together with editor(s) and rendering tool chain, which would
 enable you and anyone interested to make the most detailed Burning Man
 map ever, and even retain the full data base from every year, offer
 side-by-side rendering and whatnot.

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[Talk-us] BurningMan 2015

[David Chiles]

Burning Man starts August 30 and OpenStreetMap[1] will be out of date.

In preparations for making the iBurn app[2] this year we've made a
script[3] that generates the city layout[4].

All of the parameters come from '2015 Golden Spike and General City Map
Data'[5] and known features that don't change in dimension year to year.

In the past  Black Rock City was included in OpenStreetMap. Is the
generated layout something that could be added?

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/40.7806/-119.2068
[2] https://www.iburnapp.com/
[3] https://github.com/Burning-Man-Earth/iBurn-Data/tree/master/scripts/2015
[4]
https://github.com/Burning-Man-Earth/iBurn-Data/tree/master/data/2015/geo
[5] http://innovate.burningman.org/dataset/2015-golden-spike-location/
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Re: [Talk-us] Tagging a seasonally closed roads with uncertain spring opening

[David Chiles]

I agree something like

access:conditional=no @ (winter)

access:conditional=no @ (Nov - Apr)

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Conditional_restrictions

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:





  Am 03.11.2014 um 16:03 schrieb Richard Weait rich...@weait.com:
 
  seems access=seasonal isn't in wide use but would be correct


 I think that this is not so nice tagging as it doesn't say anything about
 which season you'll be allowed to access. I would suggest conditional
 access, see the wiki for more info, it is something like
 access:conditional=no @ winter (I'm on mobile and didn't check this syntax)

 cheers,
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Re: [Talk-us] Burning Man old data, publicity opportunity

[David Chiles]

This might be worth looking at:
http://trailbehind.wpengine.com/data-for-black-rock-city-burning-man-2013/
https://github.com/trailbehind/iBurn-maps

From the blog post:
You can use these resources for any project you wish. We consider it all
to be open and free, in the spirit of the event


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Yea, 2008/2009 is now in OpenHistoricalMap (site down now of course!). I'd
 like to get all the past years in there too. Even Mike's 2001 experience
 ;). We could remove these from OSM ... but I only think it's worth it
 after this years BRC is up there.

 I can lend some advice for this year, but don't have time to do the
 process directly. In years past, we got details on the center, orientation,
 width and names of streets, and some core infastructure like airport,
 toilets, burn barrels .. pretty early, from the DPW. From that, we
 calculated the street networks, etc, and not a problem to put on OSM. The
 other big data set is from artery, the location of art works ... which does
 change on the playa from the plans ... but usually no issue to publish as
 soon as available. The tricky data set is theme camp sites, which is
 usually published as both coordinates, and as a image showing the precise
 layout of each camp ... and that has been traced into OSM (there's
 definitely a better way, see Jeff's comment about us no longer being
 involved ;). This camp data is embargoed until gates open, as everyone gets
 pissy about their camp placement, and makes it all more tricky to manage on
 OSM.

 I don't know what the current state of things is. Andrew would definitely
 know the deal. Sounds like Jeff might have some data despite himself.

 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

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 Clay, does this give you something to work with?


 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com wrote:

 I'd love to help with this, but I'm not much of a burner (first  last:
 2001) so I won't be able to follow up. Sorry!

 -mike.

 On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

  He was certainly involved back then, but like me, his interest in
  BM/BRC has dropped off a bit. I've connected Migurski with the people
  in the Bay Area that have all the data and hoping he can help get
  everything together so it can go into the map.
 
  Jeff
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Steven Johnson sejohns...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'm almost certain that Mikel was involved in one, or both of those
 '08/'09
  efforts to map Black Rock City. Worth contacting him about what it would
  take to re-do it for 2013.
 
  -- SEJ
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  There are two types of people in the world. Those that can extrapolate
 from
  incomplete data.
 
 
 
  On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  So Black Rock City is mapped on OpenStreetMap... twice. And both are
 old
  versions (the city as it was in 2008 and 2009). Anyone know why this
 is?
  Should the two old cities be deleted and replaced with the 2013 city?
 
  I have a feeling that this could be a fun publicity opportunity for
 OSM,
  if we're the first ones to map out Black Rock City during Burning
 Man. Not
  to mention that the kind of people who go to Burning Man would
 probably
  rather support OSM over Google Maps, given someone tells them about
 OSM. It
  brings in people from everywhere, so ideally they could go back to
 their
  respective communities and possibly get more involved in local OSM
 mapping.
 
  Just ranting a pipe dream. Does this sound realistic?
 
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Re: [Talk-us] OpenLegend (SOTM Sprint Proposal)

[David Chiles]

Here's what I've been using for POI+

https://github.com/davidchiles/osm-poi-editor-iOS/blob/master/Resources/Tags.json

I've also been using JSON instead of XML. It was just as easy on iOS to use
JSON as PLIST and both are much easier than some other XML format.

David


On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 10:00 AM, John Firebaugh
john.fireba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Bryce,

 I can help you with iD presets -- they live here:

 https://github.com/systemed/iD/tree/master/data/presets

 I encourage you to use a JSON format rather than XML. It'll be easier for
 web-based services to consume.

 John


 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.comwrote:

 For today's San Francisco SOTM Sprint, I'm writing to propose a design
 effort to bring together legends.
 The goal is to inspect each major map and build a legend, then combine
 those legends into a big
 cheat sheet.  Then, inspect each editor and list the features it has
 presets for.

 The design effort would likely create an XML schema to represent the
 legend/presets for a particular design/editor.
 One future benefit is a mapper who's mapped a particular feature (say,
 cell phone towers) can see which map
 their results will go it.  It could reduce pressure to make Mapnik do
 everything.

 It is also a good sprinty topic, in that it needs someone familiar with
 each target codebase.

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