[Talk-us] battlegrid fixed
Hi all, I fixed the TIGER battlegrid, it now shows nice Stamen tiles in the background. Thanks Stamen for providing a great service. (You can donate to help them provide this service: https://stamen.com/opensource/) For those who don't know what Battlegrid is, it is a tool that shows differences between TIGER (US Census) data and OSM in a grid form, so you can focus on areas that probably still need work from the original TIGER import. There is an old blog post for if you want to know more: https://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/battlegrid/ Or just get to work :) http://184.73.220.107/battlegrid/#10/35.1603/-106.5324 Right now the backend service does not update the squares, so they may not represent current reality. I may or may not fix that, it was a bit of a hack.. It should still give you a good hint of where fixing is still needed. Thanks & happy mapping Martijn van Exel http://mvexel.github.io/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Battlegrid back up
Finally I had some time to fix the Battlegrid. (If you hadn't noticed, it has been broken for a while.) A diary entry with (slightly) more info and a link to the battlegrid (in case you didn't know it was battlegrid.us) --> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/28460 Happy mapping, -- Martijn van Exel skype: mvexel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid
The standard tag for where a road is misnamed in some other commonly referred to source is not:name. How to deal with well-intentioned mappers damaging the map by re-introducing bad data is an open question. They can actually cause quite a lot of damage without intending to, and the systematic nature of the damage isn't obvious. From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 4:24 PM To: Clifford Snow Cc: OSM US Talk Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid I need to look into Battlegrid updates. It seems that something broke somewhere. Martijn On May 21, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to make sure that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just changed North Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I verified the name which does not match TIGER 2013. Does removing the tiger:reviewed tag keep the way off Battlegrid? I'd hate to see it renamed to match TIGER since it is wrong. I fear that changing from tiger:reviewed=no to yes or deleting the tag won't keep it off Battlegrid. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us <http://osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us/> OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Richard Welty wrote: > you should probably delete the tiger: tags containing the incorrect > name as well. once a road has been verified, they contain no useful > information from the OSM point of view. > Good point. I do try to remember to delete unnecessary tags, especially the TIGER name. My concern is when using tools like Battlegrid, which I strongly support, users don't look at the tags. They see the TIGER 2013 overlay with a different name than what OSM contains. This is especially a concern with iD which unlike JOSM doesn't prominently show tags. BattleGrid is still a viable tool. Most of our Edit-a-thon are centered around cleaning up ways in the state. -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid
On 5/21/14 7:08 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to > make sure that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just > changed North Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I > verified the name which does not match TIGER 2013. Does removing the > tiger:reviewed tag keep the way off Battlegrid? I'd hate to see it > renamed to match TIGER since it is wrong. > > I fear that changing from tiger:reviewed=no to yes or deleting the tag > won't keep it off Battlegrid. you should probably delete the tiger: tags containing the incorrect name as well. once a road has been verified, they contain no useful information from the OSM point of view. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Battlegrid
I need to look into Battlegrid updates… It seems that something broke somewhere. Martijn On May 21, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Clifford Snow wrote: > As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to make sure > that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just changed North > Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I verified the name which > does not match TIGER 2013. Does removing the tiger:reviewed tag keep the way > off Battlegrid? I'd hate to see it renamed to match TIGER since it is wrong. > > I fear that changing from tiger:reviewed=no to yes or deleting the tag won't > keep it off Battlegrid. > > Clifford > > -- > @osm_seattle > osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us > OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Battlegrid
As I work to fix road names in Skagit and Whatcom County I want to make sure that they won't appear on Battlegrid. For example, I just changed North Summit Court to Kinglet Court in Whatcom County. I verified the name which does not match TIGER 2013. Does removing the tiger:reviewed tag keep the way off Battlegrid? I'd hate to see it renamed to match TIGER since it is wrong. I fear that changing from tiger:reviewed=no to yes or deleting the tag won't keep it off Battlegrid. Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > That is a magnificent challenge, but not really a Battle Grid / > MapRoulette one, I think. Maproulette challenges are > > * Simple to fix without local knowledge > * Only involve one or two nodes or ways > * Machine-detectable. (provide an SQL query for an osmois snapshot > schema database if possible) > Only part that doesn't seem to fit this would be that relations aren't ways. > (from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette/Challenges) > > What would really help for the relations is a much improved interface > for checking and editing relations (be it in JOSM or as a separate > thing). Doesn't seem to be JOSM that's the problem here. Seems to be more of an ID and Potlatch issue. Both seem to have just crap relation editing systems, and it's not made anywhere near as clear in these editors as it is in JOSM that you're about to do something fundamentally damaging to the relation (JOSM will even warn in extreme cases). > What helps a little but not much are the relation pages: > http://maproulette.org/relationpages/ It's a start, but doesn't take a lot into account that would be handy. Any network lower than state doesn't get picked up (it should, it really really should), and neither are other important routes, such as bus or bicycle. Also misses things like US:OK:Detour, US:OK:Turnpike, US:OK:Business, etc... It's a start, but it can go farther. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
That is a magnificent challenge, but not really a Battle Grid / MapRoulette one, I think. Maproulette challenges are * Simple to fix without local knowledge * Only involve one or two nodes or ways * Machine-detectable. (provide an SQL query for an osmois snapshot schema database if possible) (from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/MapRoulette/Challenges) What would really help for the relations is a much improved interface for checking and editing relations (be it in JOSM or as a separate thing). What helps a little but not much are the relation pages: http://maproulette.org/relationpages/ Martijn On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I got a challenge: Maintaining existing route relations and turn > restrictions, which seem to take a battering from Potlatch and id users > disproportionately by removing roles, improperly joining ways, setting > incorrect roles (east/west instead of forward/backward on a child way as > opposed to a child subrelation, clearing roles when they're needed, etc). > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of >> web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good >> now. >> >> Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns >> out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) >> come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the >> wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy >> to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... >> >> Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! >> Martijn >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> > Hey all, >> > The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will >> > investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! >> > -- >> > Martijn van Exel >> > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> > http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Martijn van Exel >> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
I got a challenge: Maintaining existing route relations and turn restrictions, which seem to take a battering from Potlatch and id users disproportionately by removing roles, improperly joining ways, setting incorrect roles (east/west instead of forward/backward on a child way as opposed to a child subrelation, clearing roles when they're needed, etc). On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of > web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good > now. > > Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns > out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) > come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the > wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy > to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... > > Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! > Martijn > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > Hey all, > > The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will > > investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! > > -- > > Martijn van Exel > > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
I appreciate that, Dale! I love making things like the Battle Grid for all of us. As always, feedback and suggestions for improvement are appreciated. Martijn On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Dale Puch wrote: > Just a big thank you for all the work you put into these tools. They make > finding and fixing problems hidden in plain sight a lot easier, and more > fun. > > Dale > > Dale Puch > > > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of >> web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good >> now. >> >> Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns >> out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) >> come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the >> wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy >> to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... >> >> Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! >> Martijn >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> > Hey all, >> > The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will >> > investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! >> > -- >> > Martijn van Exel >> > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> > http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Martijn van Exel >> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ >> http://openstreetmap.us/ >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
Just a big thank you for all the work you put into these tools. They make finding and fixing problems hidden in plain sight a lot easier, and more fun. Dale Dale Puch On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of > web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good > now. > > Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns > out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) > come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the > wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy > to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... > > Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! > Martijn > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > Hey all, > > The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will > > investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! > > -- > > Martijn van Exel > > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] battlegrid down
and we're back up. Sorry for the inconvenience. My total lack of web server configuration skills finally caught up with me. We're good now. Also, MapRoulette is back to connectivity errors (of which, it turns out, we have another fresh 20k to fix...) until we (yes, that's you :) come up with something new. There's a fair amount of good ideas on the wiki as well as on my blog, I just need to pick something that's easy to implement while we continue our quest to get v2 out the door... Meanwhile. Why not head to http://maproulette.org/ and fix a few! Martijn On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > Hey all, > The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will > investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > http://openstreetmap.us/ -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] battlegrid down
Hey all, The battle grid is currently down for mysterious reasons. I will investigate tomorrow. Sorry for the inconvenience! -- Martijn van Exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ http://openstreetmap.us/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
