Re: [Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain?
On Jul 25, 2009, at 9:10 AM, David Carmean wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 07:25:21AM -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: > > [snip] > >> Which data do you have in mind? which data sources? is there anything >> better available compared to http://atlas.ca.gov/download.html > > That looks to be a new version or another interface to CASIL, which > I've used often. A lot of that data are excerpts from federal data. > yes, a bit confusing to offer the same data at different portals ... >> Let's try to align activities if possible. right now there is so much >> garbage from older imports that any activity should be well planned. >> >> I was considering to import some data but still try to figure out >> what >> data is useful and accurate. right now county borders and city >> borders > > I don't really have any plans for mass imports; I was mostly trying > to get > a reading from the community. In general I'm just interested in small > areas, nothing larger than, say, the greater San Francisco Bay Area. > Nothing causing more conflicts than what I could easily resolve by > hand using JOSM in a week or so. > > nice, I am doing the same. that's why I try to figure out which datasets have reasonable quality. also most imports are not documented in the wiki. started a page to document local imports adding the links we have exchanged, please add other info, imports couldn't find andy info on the county, city border imports though. > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain?
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 07:25:21AM -0700, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: [snip] > Which data do you have in mind? which data sources? is there anything > better available compared to http://atlas.ca.gov/download.html That looks to be a new version or another interface to CASIL, which I've used often. A lot of that data are excerpts from federal data. > Let's try to align activities if possible. right now there is so much > garbage from older imports that any activity should be well planned. > > I was considering to import some data but still try to figure out what > data is useful and accurate. right now county borders and city borders I don't really have any plans for mass imports; I was mostly trying to get a reading from the community. In general I'm just interested in small areas, nothing larger than, say, the greater San Francisco Bay Area. Nothing causing more conflicts than what I could easily resolve by hand using JOSM in a week or so. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain
Try checking with the county planning department. Looks like there are three people in their GIS services department - Greg Bazhaw, Steve Borgstrom and Matthew Thompson. Start with Greg at 408-299-5776 or greg.baz...@pln.sccgov.org. Then try Michael Lopez, the planning manager or Jody Hall, the director. They all have the same email format of first.l...@pln.sccgov.org. It might be best to send them a letter requesting the information and explaining a little about OSM and what it is about. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:26:55 -0700 From: David Carmean Subject: [Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain? To: OSM US Talk Message-ID: <20090724212655.g16...@halibut.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [ OK, I see that this was posted to the list back in February, but I don't find any further discussion about it... is there a way to search just the legal-talk archive? ] Just found this article about an appeals-court decision on the Santa Clara County GIS brouhaha: http://gis.lacounty.gov/eGIS/?p=696 In particular, the analysis of item III of the decision seems to indicate that the court believes that government-produced data cannot be copyrighted: III. A. There is no statutory basis either for copyrighting the GIS basemap or for conditioning its release on a licensing agreement. The decision can be found here: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/H031658.PDF The question is: has the Foundation considered this? Can we begin to import California GIS data? :) -- Dave C, 2nd St. -- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us End of Talk-us Digest, Vol 20, Issue 23 *** ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain?
In general, information presented on this web site, unless otherwise indicated, is considered in the public domain. It may be distributed or copied as permitted by law. However, the State does make use of copyrighted data (e.g., photographs) which may require additional permissions prior to your use. info is form here http://www.ca.gov/use.html#ownership Which data do you have in mind? which data sources? is there anything better available compared to http://atlas.ca.gov/download.html Let's try to align activities if possible. right now there is so much garbage from older imports that any activity should be well planned. I was considering to import some data but still try to figure out what data is useful and accurate. right now county borders and city borders don't align in osm because they are from different mport sources. the county borders from http://atlas.ca.gov/download.html don't match either of them. the map rendering right now is just ugly at high zoom levels like here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.478&lon=-122.08147&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF tiger city boundaries are definitely very inaccurate. compared them to yahoo and the USGS topo. apo On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:26 PM, David Carmean wrote: > > [ OK, I see that this was posted to the list back in February, but I > don't find > any further discussion about it... is there a way to search just the > legal-talk archive? ] > > Just found this article about an appeals-court decision on the Santa > Clara County > GIS brouhaha: > >http://gis.lacounty.gov/eGIS/?p=696 > > In particular, the analysis of item III of the decision seems to > indicate that > the court believes that government-produced data cannot be > copyrighted: > >III. A. There is no statutory basis either for copyrighting the > GIS basemap or for >conditioning its release on a licensing agreement. > > The decision can be found here: > >http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/H031658.PDF > > The question is: has the Foundation considered this? Can we begin > to import California > GIS data? :) > > > -- > Dave C, 2nd St. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] California GIS data is public domain?
[ OK, I see that this was posted to the list back in February, but I don't find any further discussion about it... is there a way to search just the legal-talk archive? ] Just found this article about an appeals-court decision on the Santa Clara County GIS brouhaha: http://gis.lacounty.gov/eGIS/?p=696 In particular, the analysis of item III of the decision seems to indicate that the court believes that government-produced data cannot be copyrighted: III. A. There is no statutory basis either for copyrighting the GIS basemap or for conditioning its release on a licensing agreement. The decision can be found here: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/H031658.PDF The question is: has the Foundation considered this? Can we begin to import California GIS data? :) -- Dave C, 2nd St. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
