Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Steven Johnson]

+1.5 for the maproulette suggestion. 

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Sent from my electronic tether. 

> On 2016年3月16日, at 19:47, Charlotte Wolter  wrote:
> 
> Martijn,
> 
> The Arizona Dept. of Transportation (ADOT, www.azdot.gov) has 
> extensive information on both proposed and completed projects, sometimes with 
> photos. Seems like a good resource.
> These could make good Mapoulette challenges.
> 
> --C
> 
> 
> At 11:20 AM 3/16/2016, you wrote:
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of 
>> construction updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A good 
>> start should be a list of state DOTs (I found 
>> http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml, not sure if it's 100% 
>> current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own mechanism 
>> / format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?
>> At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought about 
>> this already and if so what you have come up with so far.
>> (What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the work on 
>> the I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could not find any 
>> confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for what they are doing 
>> there: https://Martijnyoutu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75.) The situation on OSM 
>> reflects the pre-construction reality —> 
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526 )
>> 
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[Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Martijn van Exel]

Hi all, 

I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of construction 
updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A good start should be 
a list of state DOTs (I found 
http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml 
, not sure if it’s 100% 
current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own mechanism / 
format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?

At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought about this 
already and if so what you have come up with so far.

(What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the work on the 
I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could not find any 
confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for what they are doing 
there: https://youtu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75 .) 
The situation on OSM reflects the pre-construction reality —> 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526 
)

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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Charlotte Wolter]

Martijn,

The Arizona Dept. of Transportation 
(ADOT, www.azdot.gov) has extensive information 
on both proposed and completed projects, 
sometimes with photos. Seems like a good resource.

These could make good Mapoulette challenges.

--C


At 11:20 AM 3/16/2016, you wrote:

Hi all,

I was thinking about a good way for the 
community to get a feed of construction updates 
from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? 
A good start should be a list of state DOTs (I 
found 
http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml, 
not sure if it's 100% current). But where to go 
from there? Every state DOT has its own 
mechanism / format to distribute updates. Do 
they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?
At this point I am just curious to hear if 
anyone else has thought about this already and 
if so what you have come up with so far.
(What triggered this again for me: I heard 
someone mention that the work on the I-96/US-23 
interchange in Michigan was complete, but could 
not find any confirmation. See this pretty cool 
video from MDOT for what they are doing there: 
https://Martijnyoutu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75.) 
The situation on OSM reflects the 
pre-construction reality —> 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526)


Martijn
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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Nathan Mills]

OKDOT provides updates on Twitter as well as posts weekly (and occasionally 
more often when warranted) "Traffax" PDF updates on their website that has a 
list of all scheduled roadwork and closures on state highways. Back in the 
olden days Traffax was blasted via fax to all the news outlets in the state, 
hence the name.

When I was still in Oklahoma, Traffax was the primary source I used to update 
OSM with road closures, construction zones, and reopenings. (When I didn't have 
direct personal knowledge of such from my travels)

-Nathan

On March 16, 2016 2:20:57 PM EDT, Martijn van Exel  wrote:
>Hi all, 
>
>I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of
>construction updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A
>good start should be a list of state DOTs (I found
>http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml
>, not sure if it’s
>100% current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own
>mechanism / format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed?
>Or twitter?
>
>At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought
>about this already and if so what you have come up with so far.
>
>(What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the
>work on the I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could
>not find any confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for
>what they are doing there: https://youtu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75
>.) The situation on OSM reflects the
>pre-construction reality —>
>https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526
>)
>
>Martijn
>
>
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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Martijn van Exel]

Cool. I added simple CSV and JSON files with all the web site of the DOTs for 
the 50 states + DC. I verified all the web site links and they seem good. We 
can take it anywhere from here. 

For example if someone would care to check these web sites for a construction 
RSS feed or a twitter feed, or any other type of structured information 
regarding new road construction, that would be a great start. You can update 
this file directly with new columns: 
https://github.com/osmlab/dot-feed/blob/master/scripts/state_table.csv 
 or 
submit it as a ticket.

Martijn

> On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Ian Dees  wrote:
> 
> A few years ago I started collecting information about how DOTs announce 
> major changes and construction and didn't get very far. In fact, I only found 
> Minnesota's DOT RSS and Newsletter 
> (http://www.dot.state.mn.us/roadwork/current.html 
> ) before getting distracted 
> and mapping.
> 
> I would be happy to rekindle this and made a GitHub project for it here:
> 
> https://github.com/osmlab/dot-feed 
> 
> Feel free to join in and help find this kind of information.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Martijn van Exel  > wrote:
> Hi all, 
> 
> I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of 
> construction updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A good 
> start should be a list of state DOTs (I found 
> http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml 
> , not sure if it’s 100% 
> current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own mechanism / 
> format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?
> 
> At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought about this 
> already and if so what you have come up with so far.
> 
> (What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the work on 
> the I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could not find any 
> confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for what they are doing 
> there: https://youtu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75 
> .) The situation on OSM reflects the 
> pre-construction reality —> 
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526 
> )
> 
> Martijn
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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Clifford Snow]

I tried to keep track of WSDOT construction on a state hwy in Seattle. The
website did not have an update feed that I could find. I have used the
state and counties sites in the past to help resolve notes.

A proactive approach would be useful.

Clifford

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of
> construction updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A
> good start should be a list of state DOTs (I found
> http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml, not sure if it’s 100%
> current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own mechanism
> / format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?
>
> At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought about
> this already and if so what you have come up with so far.
>
> (What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the work
> on the I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could not find
> any confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for what they are
> doing there: https://youtu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75.) The situation on OSM
> reflects the pre-construction reality —>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526)
>
> Martijn
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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Paul Johnson]

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Nathan Mills  wrote:

> OKDOT provides updates on Twitter as well as posts weekly (and
> occasionally more often when warranted) "Traffax" PDF updates on their
> website that has a list of all scheduled roadwork and closures on state
> highways.


Traffax is published daily for metro OKC and Tulsa (which OklaDOT divisions
1, 3, 4 and 8 seem to treat as their own special critters since both cities
are right on the division lines for some odd reason; you can tell where
this happens in Tulsa because Division 1 highways demand a Subaru or better
to handle and Division 8 won't shake apart a rustbucket, with the
transitions being rather abrupt; similar issues happen between 3 and 4,
with 4 being the better funded).


> Back in the olden days Traffax was blasted via fax to all the news outlets
> in the state, hence the name.
>

Now they all just get their road information from a news truck in the field
finding something by accident or paying Total Traffic Network, which
basically just makes shit up as they go along and is oblivious to current
traffic conditions in the city, much less something OklaDOT published.
Irony these stations could just go to OklaDOT's website and see the traffic
for themselves, Zootopia Jr. Detective style, and do a better job.


> When I was still in Oklahoma, Traffax was the primary source I used to
> update OSM with road closures, construction zones, and reopenings. (When I
> didn't have direct personal knowledge of such from my travels)
>

 It's mine, too, though I wish there was someplace I could find the
temporary traffic control documents, since I know they have to exist
somewhere.  It's not like they set up long term temporary visions by ear on
the ground.  I bring this up because Traffax is often too vague.  I've been
trying to work with Division 8 headquarters to give a bit more detail so
OSM-based routers can help warn people dealing with long-term temporary
revisions (like the complete detour of US 169 onto temporary pavement for
most of the distance between Tulsa and Owasso) and the complete teardown
and rebuild of the MLK Expressway betweeen 75 and 169.

Not to say I couldn't use some better info out of the City of Tulsa...holy
crap, at any given moment, there's between 6 and 24 long term construction
projects with long-term temporary revisions.  I've given up mapping those
(mostly, save for the most major routes nearest me that I come across
regularly) because they're just as badly documented, and they tend to snarl
traffic bad enough with so many of them that regular resurveys of these are
somewhere between impractical and impossible.
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Re: [Talk-us] DOT construction updates

[Ian Dees]

A few years ago I started collecting information about how DOTs announce
major changes and construction and didn't get very far. In fact, I only
found Minnesota's DOT RSS and Newsletter (
http://www.dot.state.mn.us/roadwork/current.html) before getting distracted
and mapping.

I would be happy to rekindle this and made a GitHub project for it here:

https://github.com/osmlab/dot-feed

Feel free to join in and help find this kind of information.

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:20 PM, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was thinking about a good way for the community to get a feed of
> construction updates from state DOTs. Has anyone ever attempted this? A
> good start should be a list of state DOTs (I found
> http://www.dot.state.ak.us/transpo_resources.shtml, not sure if it’s 100%
> current). But where to go from there? Every state DOT has its own mechanism
> / format to distribute updates. Do they all have an RSS feed? Or twitter?
>
> At this point I am just curious to hear if anyone else has thought about
> this already and if so what you have come up with so far.
>
> (What triggered this again for me: I heard someone mention that the work
> on the I-96/US-23 interchange in Michigan was complete, but could not find
> any confirmation. See this pretty cool video from MDOT for what they are
> doing there: https://youtu.be/K9wQoIc2cLc?t=75.) The situation on OSM
> reflects the pre-construction reality —>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/359765#map=15/42.5227/-83.7526)
>
> Martijn
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