Re: [Talk-us] Edit Attacks
On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 9:24 AM <80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru> wrote: > as you say stop talking about my troubles so i sent this to you alone, but > in a revenge mode he when’t after > that days edits. > he sent me a change-set discussion telling me he was right and to stop > editing. > Yes, I've looked through your changesets and their discussions. What he said may have been blunt, but I think it's valid criticism, and deserves some friendly discussion before assuming malicious intent. I think there's plenty of room for both of you to be correct, but you have to make space for it. When someone criticizes or changes something I've worked on, sometimes I get frustrated. It's okay to feel bad about being criticized. But I have to set that aside and remind myself that everyone's just trying to improve the map, and I'd rather get along with them and come to an agreement on how to map things. As a result, I have eleven years' worth of amicable working relationships under my belt with mappers all over the country. > Please do not delete anymore river area polygons as that is the proper > way to map rivers. Please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rivers for > more info. > i sent him this > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rivers#Using_one_multipolygon_relation_for_the_whole_river_area > and this > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:waterway%3Driverbank#Problems_with_giant_river_multipolygons > I see "please do not delete anymore river area polygons", which looks like collaborative discussion to me. If you are interpreting that as "I'm right, stop editing" then I think you are assuming he's attacking you. You've now responded to a *perceived* personal attack with actual personal attacks, meaning you are responsible for escalating this from a technical disagreement to a petty feud. Chances are, if you started a collaborative discussion with him about river polygons, you could resolve your conflict pretty easily and get back to mapping river polygons without him or anyone else bothering you. I suggest taking a break from mapping for a few days until things calm down and you can take a second look at this dispute. It sucks to have your work criticized, especially if you're proud of it. But criticism is how we grow and learn, and in a massive collaborative project like OpenStreetMap, it's worth it to see past the personal conflicts so we can move on and build collaborative relationships. Best, Clay ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Edit Attacks
Have you tried talking to this mapper about his criticisms and finding some common ground? I'm certain you can find an agreeable way to map the things you want to map. The mailing list is not the place to air your interpersonal disputes. If you don't want to draw scrutiny and criticism to your own edits, I suggest trying to resolve conflicts privately and collaboratively before escalating them to a public forum. Best, Clay On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 6:29 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-us < talk-us@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Last week I edited a 10 year old, 81 mile MultiPolygon with GHOSTS in > the ID editor, all I know, Someone > > took offence to that, > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85357849#map=13/42.0813/-87.8854 > > and attacked all my edits of that day, and as he moved from north to > south, every thing I did for the > > last year. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86230442 , with > things other people had already > > called me on, (discussion). so exposing my self everything I have done > in the last 24 hours is under question > > from people who are not local but in Europe. even my visit to the golf > course is in question a 7 year stale edit. > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Edit Attacks
Can you link any specific changeset damaging data or object that was deleted and should not be? Linked ones http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=86230442 http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=85357849 appear to not be problematic ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/233949#map=9/41.8982/-87.7286 is on boundary of unreasonably large relation, but it is not something very problematic) Jun 10, 2020, 15:27 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org: > Last week I edited a 10 year old, 81 mile> MultiPolygon with GHOSTS in > the ID editor, all I know, Someone > > took offence to that, > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85357849#map=13/42.0813/-87.8854 > > and attacked all my edits of that day, and as he moved from north to south, > every thing I did for the > > last year. > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86230442> , with > things other people had already > > called me on, (discussion). so > > exposing> my self everything I have done > in the last 24 hours is under question > > from people who are not local but in Europe. even my visit to the golf course > is in question a 7 year stale edit. > > > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Edit Attacks
Last week I edited a 10 year old, 81 mile MultiPolygon with GHOSTS in the ID editor, all I know, Someone took offence to that, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/85357849#map=13/42.0813/-87.8854 and attacked all my edits of that day, and as he moved from north to south, every thing I did for the last year. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86230442 , with things other people had already called me on, (discussion). so exposing my self everything I have done in the last 24 hours is under question from people who are not local but in Europe. even my visit to the golf course is in question a 7 year stale edit. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
