Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
Sorry the issue was we did not have quorum and did not announce the meeting. So it could not count as the annual meeting. The Treasurer's report is finished (a big part of these sorts of things) and we can have an annual meeting. Anyway, the plan was to have an online annual meeting, which is possible according to our bylaws. As for SotM-US that is dependent on people willing to organize. Though the event was smaller than SotM it still was a major undertaking. Thea Clay did the majority of the work while she was working for Cloudmade. It would require a larger volunteer effort to do it this year. Though we could certainly start a bidding process to look for possible venues. Best, -Kate On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Last year it was State of the Map US. I assumed this year that it would happen at the same time as OSMF has its elections... The US chapter was scheduled to meet Saturday at SotM at 12:30. Did anything happen there? http://stateofthemap.org/schedules/saturday-september-10th/ I'm fairly certain that wasn't there on Friday when I typed up the Saturday schedule that ended up on the wiki. Either way, there was a HOT meeting at that time outside and I don't think a OSM US meeting happened. Perhaps a few members will offer to help the US local chapter team with organizing things. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Another barrage of questions [ ... ] I think it was surveymonkey run by some independent (Apache?) observers. Is it possible to do this again? If so, what needs to be done? As for last year, Mike Collinson and I served as independent observers / vote counters. The vote was handled through surveymonkey last year. We just used plain-old-email for the Foundation election just passed. I think I prefer email since it removes the reliance on an external service. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: Sorry the issue was we did not have quorum and did not announce the meeting. So it could not count as the annual meeting. The Treasurer's report is finished (a big part of these sorts of things) and we can have an annual meeting. The bylaws say a quorum shall be determined by the Board of Directors prior to any such meeting or at least 10. What number has the Board chosen? Anyway, the plan was to have an online annual meeting, which is possible according to our bylaws. Is this planned to happen this month or next? Considering the Board's term should have expired by now I think it's appropriate for the Board to make a formal request for nominations ASAP, and get on with an online meeting+election within a month or so. -Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, though people have already started to add nominees: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States#Elections_for_2011-2012_Board When is the election? bylaws say At the first organizational meeting, whenever that happened or will happen What are the procedures for voting? What is the expected or desired commitment from board members? Can current board members run again? I have many other questions unrelated to the election like: Where are the minutes (or summary if minutes aren't approved) from the 21 April, 2011 meeting? Where are the financial reports? What assets does the Chapter have? e.g cash, investments, servers and other hardware Who administers the server resources? (Ian and ?) Will administration of the servers change after the election? What are Chapter servers being utilized for now? What are the ongoing operations and maintenance costs for the servers? What projects are going on now or will be started after the election, and what are the financial commitments? How many members are there? Has the Technical, Education Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? I feel like there must be some mailing list or Google Group that I don't know about for me to be missing this much information. -Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, The 2010 election was held in August, by email. So it's probably a bit late this year. Minutes from meetings since March, if any, are missing from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Call_Minutes ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
There has been some informal talk about when the elections are coming up. I think with SOTM this year, things have been more focused on that than the elections. I'm not a member of the board, although I am running this time around, but this is my understanding of the questions: - Where are the financial reports? - The secretary most likely has these, if they are published, I'm not sure how current they are - What assets does the Chapter have? e.g cash, investments, servers and other hardware - The cash number would probably be in the financial report, there are servers and some schwag - Who administers the server resources? (Ian and ?) - I believe that Ian is doing at least 90% of this - Will administration of the servers change after the election? - I think Ian is pretty set on doing this, but if he isn't on the new board, we may want to have him bring someone else up to speed - What are Chapter servers being utilized for now? - This is a very good question, I think it's mostly imports and bots, but I really don't know - What are the ongoing operations and maintenance costs for the servers? - These are pretty minimal right now, this should also be answered in the financial report - What projects are going on now or will be started after the election, - There are a number of subgroups that are all linked from the OSM US Chapter page on the wiki - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States - and what are the financial commitments? - I'm not sure on this, it would be on the financial reports as well - How many members are there? - I believe it to be 25ish - Has the Technical, Education Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? - The groups as a whole haven't, but each board member is responsible for one or more groups, and the board members voice the group concerns I hope my view of these situations at least gets some people talking on this subject. I don't know if my answers are 100% right, but it should be enough to get the ball rolling on these issues. -- Jim McAndrew @JimmyRocks On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, The 2010 election was held in August, by email. So it's probably a bit late this year. Minutes from meetings since March, if any, are missing from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Call_Minutes ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On 9/15/2011 11:56 AM, Jim McAndrew wrote: There has been some informal talk about when the elections are coming up. I think with SOTM this year, things have been more focused on that than the elections. SOTM was largely organised by OSMF and the working group with some funds channeled through the US. With the greatest respect to those involved, I think it's better to just put the issue on the table that HOT took everyones time and not a lot of progress has been made with OSMFUS. That was great for HOT, as you can see, but OSMFUS needs people on the next board with the time to make the progress it needs, if for no other reason than showing those upstairs in Canada what we can do ;-) Steve I'm not a member of the board, although I am running this time around, but this is my understanding of the questions: * Where are the financial reports? o The secretary most likely has these, if they are published, I'm not sure how current they are * What assets does the Chapter have? e.g cash, investments, servers and other hardware o The cash number would probably be in the financial report, there are servers and some schwag * Who administers the server resources? (Ian and ?) o I believe that Ian is doing at least 90% of this * Will administration of the servers change after the election? o I think Ian is pretty set on doing this, but if he isn't on the new board, we may want to have him bring someone else up to speed * What are Chapter servers being utilized for now? o This is a very good question, I think it's mostly imports and bots, but I really don't know * What are the ongoing operations and maintenance costs for the servers? o These are pretty minimal right now, this should also be answered in the financial report * What projects are going on now or will be started after the election, o There are a number of subgroups that are all linked from the OSM US Chapter page on the wiki + http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States * and what are the financial commitments? o I'm not sure on this, it would be on the financial reports as well * How many members are there? o I believe it to be 25ish * Has the Technical, Education Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? o The groups as a whole haven't, but each board member is responsible for one or more groups, and the board members voice the group concerns I hope my view of these situations at least gets some people talking on this subject. I don't know if my answers are 100% right, but it should be enough to get the ball rolling on these issues. -- Jim McAndrew @JimmyRocks On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com mailto:rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com mailto:j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, The 2010 election was held in August, by email. So it's probably a bit late this year. Minutes from meetings since March, if any, are missing from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Call_Minutes ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
I can answer some (but not all) of your questions, Josh: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, though people have already started to add nominees: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States#Elections_for_2011-2012_Board When is the election? bylaws say At the first organizational meeting, whenever that happened or will happen What are the procedures for voting? What is the expected or desired commitment from board members? Can current board members run again? I have many other questions unrelated to the election like: Where are the minutes (or summary if minutes aren't approved) from the 21 April, 2011 meeting? There never was a 21 April, 2011 meeting. The last meeting was March 3rd, 2011. Where are the financial reports? They're being worked on as we speak. What assets does the Chapter have? e.g cash, investments, servers and other hardware In general, our assets consist of roughly $5000 in server hardware and $2000 in promotional materials. Who administers the server resources? (Ian and ?) Just me right now. I'm working on changing that and getting it to a point where it's more consolidated, documented, and easier to maintain. Will administration of the servers change after the election? That has not been determined. What are Chapter servers being utilized for now? Currently they are serving http://openstreetmap.us/ and http://toposm.com/. I'm attempting to get a rendering database set up but it's taking longer than expected. The virtualization system we set up has a greater IO impact than I expected. What are the ongoing operations and maintenance costs for the servers? Currently $0.00. All ongoing costs are donated. What projects are going on now or will be started after the election, In terms of projects utilizing the server hardware: - Near term: I'd like to get Richard's shields overlay rendering and start working with people interested in getting a US-specific rendering going. - Longer term: I'd like to find storage for helping service aerial imagery, try to get another JXAPI instance going, and start implementing alternative OSM APIs for people interested in mapping stuff that wouldn't otherwise fit into OSM (e.g. historical maps, Burning Man, etc.) and what are the financial commitments? How many members are there? There are currently 19 paying members. Has the Technical, Education Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? I feel like there must be some mailing list or Google Group that I don't know about for me to be missing this much information. There is a mailing list for the board members, but otherwise when we communicate with the members it's via the talk-us mailing list or via direct e-mail contact. -Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:00 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: if for no other reason than showing those upstairs in Canada what we can do ;-) Will you kids stop making all that racket?!?!?! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
Another barrage of questions The wiki says that the 2011-2012 election is coming up soon. How is this being organized and when is it actually going to be? The system that was set up last year worked pretty well. I think it was surveymonkey run by some independent (Apache?) observers. Is it possible to do this again? If so, what needs to be done? I know that at one point getting 503(c) status was a goal of the organization. Did this ever happen, and if not, what needs to be done? One thing I would like to see with the US servers is one set up to make extracts, especially for major cities and metro regions. Even the state ones can be rather unwieldy. Assuming others think this would be useful how do we go about setting something like this up? And last but not least has anyone started thinking about the next SOTM-US.? If the main SOTM is going to be in the August-September timeframe it might be a good idea to try and offset ours. For instance, aim for March so they aren't taking place one directly after the other. I threw this idea around some at SOTM Denver and it was well recieved but If we want to do this we'll need to get started planning it pretty soon. Same criteriahttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_U.S._2010/BIDS/CRITERIAas last time? Cheers, Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Josh Doe j...@joshdoe.com wrote: I'm having trouble finding any information about the elections for the OSM US chapter, The 2010 election was held in August, by email. So it's probably a bit late this year. The bylaws, if I recall, said there should be an annual meeting as well. It needs to happen along with the annual report (the report is presented at the meeting). Last year it was State of the Map US. I assumed this year that it would happen at the same time as OSMF has its elections... - Serge ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Last year it was State of the Map US. I assumed this year that it would happen at the same time as OSMF has its elections... The US chapter was scheduled to meet Saturday at SotM at 12:30. Did anything happen there? http://stateofthemap.org/schedules/saturday-september-10th/ Perhaps a few members will offer to help the US local chapter team with organizing things. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Another barrage of questions [ ... ] I think it was surveymonkey run by some independent (Apache?) observers. Is it possible to do this again? If so, what needs to be done? As for last year, Mike Collinson and I served as independent observers / vote counters. The vote was handled through surveymonkey last year. We just used plain-old-email for the Foundation election just passed. I think I prefer email since it removes the reliance on an external service. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: Last year it was State of the Map US. I assumed this year that it would happen at the same time as OSMF has its elections... The US chapter was scheduled to meet Saturday at SotM at 12:30. Did anything happen there? http://stateofthemap.org/schedules/saturday-september-10th/ I'm fairly certain that wasn't there on Friday when I typed up the Saturday schedule that ended up on the wiki. Either way, there was a HOT meeting at that time outside and I don't think a OSM US meeting happened. Perhaps a few members will offer to help the US local chapter team with organizing things. On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: Another barrage of questions [ ... ] I think it was surveymonkey run by some independent (Apache?) observers. Is it possible to do this again? If so, what needs to be done? As for last year, Mike Collinson and I served as independent observers / vote counters. The vote was handled through surveymonkey last year. We just used plain-old-email for the Foundation election just passed. I think I prefer email since it removes the reliance on an external service. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and
On 9/15/11 2:01 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I can answer some (but not all) of your questions, Josh: On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Josh Doej...@joshdoe.com wrote: Has the Technical, Education Student Outreach or US Tagging working groups ever met? the US tagging group was my proposal. the reaction on talk-us to the idea of having it was pretty mixed, and i didn't press the proposal. i'd welcome comment on whether i should have pressed it. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
