Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-06 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
not a good idea to delete the relation. It will be incredible painful  
to add all pieces agin and not missing a single bridge.
Josm is the best solution. Also Merkaator supports Yahoo images.
The nice thing in Josm is you can select all members of a realtion  
easily. download all members, 
for windows there is a single download for webkit. Mac OS is a bit  
more work but works too.


On 5 May 2009, at 7:53 , Ted Mielczarek wrote:

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been working on state highways and interstate relations myself  
 lately, too. I stopped using Potlatch for exactly this reason...


 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Philip Shipley p...@barby.net wrote:
 Any thoughts, objections, better ideas..please don't say  
 JOSM..

 Use JOSM. For simple stuff like this it is pretty easy to use.

 If you have a specific gripe against JOSM, let me know -- I'd be  
 happy to help you work through it. If you just don't like it, I  
 don't think there are any other editors out there that are as  
 feature-complete as Potlatch or JOSM.

 Also, I vote that you don't remove relations just to make editing  
 easier. It would be a pain to add those back.

 Is there a wiki page on how to get the Yahoo imagery into JOSM  
 painlessly? That's the primary reason I used Potlatch when fixing up  
 bits of I-80/81 around here.

 -Ted

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[Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Philip Shipley
Hi,

For the last couple of months I have been working by way along each of the
Interstates (starting at H1) and am currently 2/3rds up the I5, checking the
one-ways, putting in/fixing all the bridges and tunnels and checking the
junctions etc based upon Yahoo imagery and the TIGER data.
Before 0.6 I was making great progress, but since the upgrade things have
really slowed down.  It is now taking me a good 30 seconds, often more, just
to split a way - each bridge takes at least 2 mins to define - there are a
lot of bridges and complex junctions!!!

Reading other lists I see that this is a know issue with Potlatch and large
relations, with no immediate solution available.

My idea is to temporarily delete the relations from the highway I am working
on, and then add it back on when the changes are complete. Bearing in mind
that sometimes it might take a few weeks to complete - I'm really looking
forward to I-10 at 2.4k miles

Any thoughts, objections, better ideas..please don't say JOSM..

Regards

Phil
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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been working on state highways and interstate relations myself lately,
 too. I stopped using Potlatch for exactly this reason...

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Philip Shipley p...@barby.net wrote:

 Any thoughts, objections, better ideas..please don't say JOSM..


 Use JOSM. For simple stuff like this it is pretty easy to use.

 If you have a specific gripe against JOSM, let me know -- I'd be happy to
 help you work through it. If you just don't like it, I don't think there
 are any other editors out there that are as feature-complete as Potlatch or
 JOSM.

 Also, I vote that you don't remove relations just to make editing easier.
 It would be a pain to add those back.


Is there a wiki page on how to get the Yahoo imagery into JOSM painlessly?
That's the primary reason I used Potlatch when fixing up bits of I-80/81
around here.

-Ted
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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Philip Shipley
Regarding JOSM - I specifically wanted to avoid a fight between the Potlach
vs the JOSM crowd ;-)
At the moment I am getting Exception Occurred with yahoo images - I'll
redownload webkit tonight (Europe time) and see if that fixes it.

If you're working on Interstates as well we should coordinate to avoid
duplicate work.

Phil


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been working on state highways and interstate relations myself lately,
 too. I stopped using Potlatch for exactly this reason...

 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Philip Shipley p...@barby.net wrote:

 Any thoughts, objections, better ideas..please don't say JOSM..


 Use JOSM. For simple stuff like this it is pretty easy to use.

 If you have a specific gripe against JOSM, let me know -- I'd be happy to
 help you work through it. If you just don't like it, I don't think there
 are any other editors out there that are as feature-complete as Potlatch or
 JOSM.

 Also, I vote that you don't remove relations just to make editing easier.
 It would be a pain to add those back.




-- 
Regards

Phil
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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Philip Shipley
I was looking at this page
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPlugin dunno if it is
painless as my firewall is currently blocking the webkit download.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/WMSPluginPhil



 Is there a wiki page on how to get the Yahoo imagery into JOSM painlessly?
 That's the primary reason I used Potlatch when fixing up bits of I-80/81
 around here.

 -Ted


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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread David Lynch
Thanks to a couple different mappers and myself, I-35 looks to be good
from the Mexican border to north of Austin. I've done some cleanup for
35 in the remainder of Texas, but finishing it is on my to-do list.
I'll probably move north to Oklahoma after that. Oklahoma's a mess -
most of the interstates were imported as a single way, and I've seen
divided roads imported as two ways one on top of the other.

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 09:57, Philip Shipley p...@barby.net wrote:
 If you're working on Interstates as well we should coordinate to avoid
 duplicate work.


-- 
David J. Lynch
djly...@gmail.com

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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Paul Johnson
Ted Mielczarek wrote:
 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Ian Dees
 ian.d...@gmail.com
 mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been working on state highways and interstate relations myself
 lately, too. I stopped using Potlatch for exactly this reason...
 
 
 On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Philip Shipley
 p...@barby.net
 mailto:p...@barby.net wrote:
 
 Any thoughts, objections, better ideas..please don't say
 JOSM..
 
 
 Use JOSM. For simple stuff like this it is pretty easy to use.
 
 If you have a specific gripe against JOSM, let me know -- I'd be
 happy to help you work through it. If you just don't like it, I
 don't think there are any other editors out there that are as
 feature-complete as Potlatch or JOSM.
 
 Also, I vote that you don't remove relations just to make editing
 easier. It would be a pain to add those back.
 
 
 Is there a wiki page on how to get the Yahoo imagery into JOSM
 painlessly? That's the primary reason I used Potlatch when fixing up
 bits of I-80/81 around here.

Yes, there is.  How painlessly this is depends on your distribution;
worst case scenario you have to pull in some -dev packages and compile a
single file for one of the Yahoo hacks to work.  Took me less time than
it took to get coffee to get it working.

Is there a particular spot where you're stuck on this?



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Re: [Talk-us] Temporarily Deleting Relations from Interstate Ways

2009-05-05 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 Watch out in northern Oregon, as I've already added relations to some of
 I-5 and I-84, and I think the entire length of I-205.  You might want to see
 if those are suitable for re-purposing.


Is everyone aware of the wiki page for the interstate relations project?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Interstate_Highways_Relations
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