[Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-27 Thread Paul Johnson
It seems we have a mass import of truck stops going on by user TorhamZed.
 I have some concerns about this, since there doesn't seem to be any
documentation for this import, they appear to be tagged as caravan sites,
and sources cited on the ones I've noticed appear to be from the operator's
website.  I'm concerned that these edits don't meet our license standards
and are tagged inappropriately (since in at least a couple cases I'm
personally aware of, the truck stop in question doesn't have facilities you
would expect at, say, the park I live in or a KOA or similar facility).
 I've just reached out to the user in private message, but wanted to make
the list aware of this so folks can keep an eye out in their area.
 Included chains seem to be Flying J, Love's (possibly misspelled as
"Loves'"), and Travel Centers of America.
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Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-27 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
At first it looked like great photo mapping... fitting a pattern of a long
distance team driving
trucker doing 4-5 truck stops a day...

But given buildings plopped onto roads:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943

And the comment:
16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59
Loves' # 458 - Strafford - Can be seen from google maps

It looks more like trolling corporate websites then mapping from an
armchair.


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Note:
TorhamZed's activity would also bypass almost any automated limit system
for new members.
This is not 1 features in one day, this is 4-5 features a day for
months.
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Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-27 Thread Mike N

On 6/27/2013 8:16 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:

But given buildings plopped onto roads:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16662943


 I've been guilty of 'plopping buildings onto roads' myself, where the 
driveway goes under a carport style roof.   And being too lazy to split 
the road at the roof and tag it with covered=yes.




And the comment:
16598240 June 18, 2013 03:59
Loves' # 458 - Strafford - Can be seen from google maps


  Unless it's not on Bing aerial, it might be the old "everything, 
including Bing imagery is Google" problem.



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Re: [Talk-us] TorhamZed imports

2013-06-28 Thread Minh Nguyen

On 2013-06-27 4:44 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

It seems we have a mass import of truck stops going on by user
TorhamZed.  I have some concerns about this, since there doesn't seem to
be any documentation for this import, they appear to be tagged as
caravan sites, and sources cited on the ones I've noticed appear to be
from the operator's website.  I'm concerned that these edits don't meet
our license standards and are tagged inappropriately (since in at least
a couple cases I'm personally aware of, the truck stop in question
doesn't have facilities you would expect at, say, the park I live in or
a KOA or similar facility).  I've just reached out to the user in
private message, but wanted to make the list aware of this so folks can
keep an eye out in their area.  Included chains seem to be Flying J,
Love's (possibly misspelled as "Loves'"), and Travel Centers of America.


I think the choice of caravan_site was intended to indicate that trucks 
can layover at these facilities, but TorhamZed has even tagged a few gas 
stations in my area that have only a handful of truck parking spaces.


In my area, I've been retagging all of TorhamZed's "caravan sites" as 
highway=services, landuse=retail, but that may still be suboptimal. Do 
we have better tags for truck stops, as opposed to toll road service 
areas? (I'd prefer not to tag the entire premises as amenity=fuel, since 
I'd previously drawn in all the canopies as building=roof, amenity=fuel, 
hgv/motorcar=designated/no.)


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