Re: [Talk-us] Trailheads
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > I've been thinking about this question for a few days. Maybe the only > way to distinguish a trailhead is that it has been designated as this by > some trail authority. > > For instance, the Ogden River Parkway > (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=30 ) crosses several > streets but only certain places are designated trailheads. On the West > Haven Trail (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=32 ) the > trailhead is located where there is public parking and a paved trail > (not a sidewalk) all of the way to the Weber River Parkway. > > I am sympathetic to Sam's position that one should simply represent > what's there (sign boards, parking), and I agree with it. But we should > also be able to represent official designations of trailheadedness, or > the equivalent judgement of locals. I suppose, when adding the informational sign (or some other mappable feature) at the trailhead to the trail's route relation, you could give it a role of "trailhead". That semantically describes the situation, though it has the disadvantage that simple POI search algorithms won't be able to catch it. -- David "Smith" a.k.a. Vid the Kid a.k.a. Bír'd'in Does this font make me look fat? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Trailheads
I've been thinking about this question for a few days. Maybe the only way to distinguish a trailhead is that it has been designated as this by some trail authority. For instance, the Ogden River Parkway (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=30 ) crosses several streets but only certain places are designated trailheads. On the West Haven Trail (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=32 ) the trailhead is located where there is public parking and a paved trail (not a sidewalk) all of the way to the Weber River Parkway. I am sympathetic to Sam's position that one should simply represent what's there (sign boards, parking), and I agree with it. But we should also be able to represent official designations of trailheadedness, or the equivalent judgement of locals. pgpSsuayQWRFw.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Trailheads
Hi, its "tourism=information; information=guide_post;name=The Trail Name" on a node next to the trail exactly where the physical sign is. Then, attach the trail segments + the trail marker node to the route relation. Cheers, Sam On 7/2/10, Val Kartchner wrote: > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 20:50 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Val Kartchner writes: >> > I've wanted to tag the trail heads for the paths I've added. I've >> > searched for such a tag in the wiki with no luck. It would be like the >> > tag for parking: An area would indicate parking as well while a point >> > may indicate parking. >> >> trailhead as a point is an interesting concept, and hard to pin down. >> It seems to apply to bigger trails more than anything else. >> Conceptually, what distinguishes something you'd call a trailhead? To >> me, a trailhead doesn't necessarily have good parking, but somehow >> stands out as a hike start/end location because the trail that comes to >> the road is particularly important. >> >> If a trailhead is just amenity=parking and information=board, we have a >> way to represent those. >> >> So I think what's really missing is some way to label some >> highway=footway as more important than others. > > I've been thinking about this question for a few days. Maybe the only > way to distinguish a trailhead is that it has been designated as this by > some trail authority. > > For instance, the Ogden River Parkway > (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=30 ) crosses several > streets but only certain places are designated trailheads. On the West > Haven Trail (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=32 ) the > trailhead is located where there is public parking and a paved trail > (not a sidewalk) all of the way to the Weber River Parkway. > > What other way could we use to designate trailheads? Many GPS units > have icons and searches for trailheads. What criteria do they use? > > - Val - > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Trailheads
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 20:50 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > Val Kartchner writes: > > I've wanted to tag the trail heads for the paths I've added. I've > > searched for such a tag in the wiki with no luck. It would be like the > > tag for parking: An area would indicate parking as well while a point > > may indicate parking. > > trailhead as a point is an interesting concept, and hard to pin down. > It seems to apply to bigger trails more than anything else. > Conceptually, what distinguishes something you'd call a trailhead? To > me, a trailhead doesn't necessarily have good parking, but somehow > stands out as a hike start/end location because the trail that comes to > the road is particularly important. > > If a trailhead is just amenity=parking and information=board, we have a > way to represent those. > > So I think what's really missing is some way to label some > highway=footway as more important than others. I've been thinking about this question for a few days. Maybe the only way to distinguish a trailhead is that it has been designated as this by some trail authority. For instance, the Ogden River Parkway (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=30 ) crosses several streets but only certain places are designated trailheads. On the West Haven Trail (http://weberpathways.org/trails_display.asp?ID=32 ) the trailhead is located where there is public parking and a paved trail (not a sidewalk) all of the way to the Weber River Parkway. What other way could we use to designate trailheads? Many GPS units have icons and searches for trailheads. What criteria do they use? - Val - ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
