Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:44 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: We lost track of this case when Richard Weait stepped down, but I placed a 0-hour block about the complaints and pointing out that changeset comments are helpful. ** ** The 0-hour block has expired so Cam4rd98 has read it, but have they stopped the behavior that was the problem? I don’t have the local knowledge to determine this. You don't really need local knowledge to see if the behavior has changed. The two complaints were creating roads that are not yet there (highway=proposed or construction=yes) and no changeset comments. This user's most recent four changesets still exhibit these problems: - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16397664 - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16397959 - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16405000 - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/16405026 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
Well, it seems Changeset: 16397959 is legit (minus the missing changeset comment) since I-269 IS under-construction in that area, well, at least on the MS side for sure. http://www.desototimes.com/articles/2013/03/23/news/doc514cf7ea1d8d0663837988.txt -James ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:37 AM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: Well, it seems Changeset: 16397959 is legit (minus the missing changeset comment) since I-269 IS under-construction in that area, well, at least on the MS side for sure. http://www.desototimes.com/articles/2013/03/23/news/doc514cf7ea1d8d0663837988.txt True enough, and it looks like their most recent changesets are deleting the proposed roads. Still would be nice to have changeset comments and a response to the community's messages. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
We lost track of this case when Richard Weait stepped down, but I placed a 0-hour block about the complaints and pointing out that changeset comments are helpful. The 0-hour block has expired so Cam4rd98 has read it, but have they stopped the behavior that was the problem? I don’t have the local knowledge to determine this. From: Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 2:39 AM To: Clay Smalley Cc: James Mast; OSM Talk US Subject: Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments 2013/6/1 Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com I've had to clean up his edits before. What bothers me is that he's unresponsive and never leaves any comments on his edits. I've brought him up before to DWG but nothing's been done. Retry, being unresponsive while performing disputed edits is a good reason to be (temporarily) blocked. cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
2013/6/1 Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com I've had to clean up his edits before. What bothers me is that he's unresponsive and never leaves any comments on his edits. I've brought him up before to DWG but nothing's been done. Retry, being unresponsive while performing disputed edits is a good reason to be (temporarily) blocked. cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
I've tried a couple times to reach out to this user with no response. I've had to delete several huge swaths of highway=proposed roads in the Chicago area that they've added. They also added a ton of barrier=ditch lines in seemingly random spots. Can we stop rendering highway=proposed? On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote: 2013/6/1 Clay Smalley claysmal...@gmail.com I've had to clean up his edits before. What bothers me is that he's unresponsive and never leaves any comments on his edits. I've brought him up before to DWG but nothing's been done. Retry, being unresponsive while performing disputed edits is a good reason to be (temporarily) blocked. cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
Ian Dees writes: I've tried a couple times to reach out to this user with no response. This seems like a problem to me. Perhaps we (that is to say, the people who have the permission to stop an account from uploading) need an intermediate step between locking an account, and permitting random editing. Maybe we need a status intermediate between having an account locked, and having an account which is marked read-only? Your account is marked as read-only. Please read your INBOX for more information. That would catch the id and potlatch users. Then we just need JOSM to show a similar error message when it tries to log you in. Or maybe a 'moderation' facility, whereby somebody's changeset needs to be human-reviewed before it goes into the database? If somebody has proven themselves to make troublesome edits, this seems like an expensive yet effective way to help them. -- --my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com Crynwr supports open source software 521 Pleasant Valley Rd. | +1 315-600-8815 Potsdam, NY 13676-3213 | Sheepdog ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Ian Dees writes: I've tried a couple times to reach out to this user with no response. This seems like a problem to me. Perhaps we (that is to say, the people who have the permission to stop an account from uploading) need an intermediate step between locking an account, and permitting random editing. Maybe we need a status intermediate between having an account locked, and having an account which is marked read-only? Your account is marked as read-only. Please read your INBOX for more information. That would catch the id and potlatch users. Then we just need JOSM to show a similar error message when it tries to log you in. This is what an account block is and it already happens. When a user is blocked they must acknowledge and read a message before they can continue editing. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
Ian Dees wrote: This is what an account block is and it already happens. For those unaware of account blocks, you can read all those that have been imposed at http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks . cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/User-Cam4rd98-gun-jumping-new-highways-adding-fictional-alignments-tp5763647p5763708.html Sent from the USA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
This user has been brought to my attention with him gun-jumping highways marking them as open when they aren't yet (I-74/US-311 [1] - I've already fixed this one), or adding completely fictional alignments for highways that aren't even under-construction yet or proposed (I-66 in IN [2], and an alignment of NC-540 [3]). I'm pretty sure these aren't the only ones he's done, so this could be just the tip of the iceberg. Has anybody had any prior contact with this user? Just wish that all the editing programs forced a comment before upload. Really hate the no comment changesets. -James [1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/2725 [2] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/3136 [3] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/3160 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User Cam4rd98 gun-jumping new highways + adding fictional alignments
I've had to clean up his edits before. What bothers me is that he's unresponsive and never leaves any comments on his edits. I've brought him up before to DWG but nothing's been done. On May 31, 2013 9:59 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: This user has been brought to my attention with him gun-jumping highways marking them as open when they aren't yet (I-74/US-311 [1] - I've already fixed this one), or adding completely fictional alignments for highways that aren't even under-construction yet or proposed (I-66 in IN [2], and an alignment of NC-540 [3]). I'm pretty sure these aren't the only ones he's done, so this could be just the tip of the iceberg. Has anybody had any prior contact with this user? Just wish that all the editing programs forced a comment before upload. Really hate the no comment changesets. -James [1] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/2725 [2] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/3136 [3] - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/3160 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
