Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
> Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger, > and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them > available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in > what ever they wish? In case anyone is proceeding on this, it was pointed out to me that the original OSM import was 2007, so a GeoDiff should be run between 2007 and 2009. (I just happened to have '08 and was curious about activity between '08 and '09'). ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Sam Vekemans wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dale Puch wrote: > >> Reasonably easy to do yourself with Ian's java shp-to-osm. The worst part >> I have had was county wide osm converted tiger files in JOSM. But tat can >> be avoided several ways. >> http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo Attached is an old >> rules file I used as an example. Be sure to change the source field. >> >> > For your country-wide shp files.. are they actually USA.shp ; USA.shx > USA.dbf ?? > or is it broken down into states / counties / regions. or smart nts > rectangles like Canada? :-) > Tiger files are broken up as small as counties. Some data spans the whole US, or states as well though. But these are manageable amounts of data like state boarders, or zip codes. > As i dont know if ians script can handle the size of files for the big shp > file, i tahink that openJUMP can slice the SHP files in any why you like... > then just saveAS each as a 1/4 size .shp file and run shp-to-osm that way, > (running a separate command line for each of the 4 files)... anyone know > if thats possable? > I don't remember what the limit would be, but I think it is the memory set for use in java on the command line. But I don't know if it is a direct correlation of file size to memory. He did add an option that splits the output into fixed sized files. So breaking up the data into manageable chunks isn't required any longer :) > > A side note, with JOSM is there a waty to copy from one layer to another >> while maintaining position? I have done it a few times in the past with >> copy and paste and then repositioning, but I would prefer to maintain the >> exact position. >> >> Thats 'select the way you want to copy. then you have to 'edit/copy' > (ctrl-c doesn't work). > then change the layer to the data.osm layer and make it active. then > edit-paste. and its in the same position. > I also, (for consistancy), go back to the roads.osm layer and select > edit-delete. then hide that layer and go back to the data.osm layer and > make it active and upload. > Ahh that will help a lot! Thanks. > > This way, i keep track of what roads i have uploaded. (at least > logically). then if i want to save it and work on it later, i saveAS that > roads.osm file to 'roads-less-some.osm' so then i know that the file is my > working. > > If i have a team working on the area.. i can then share this smaaller file > with the group. > > Also, by manually selecting the top half of the roads.osm file (may take a > while to select). and (edit-delete) then open up the roads.osm file again > and select the bottom half, and edit / delete) you now have 2 smaller > files to play with. > > > Dale >> >> On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Sam Vekemans < >> acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger, >>> and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them >>> available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in >>> what ever they wish? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Sam >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dale Puch >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> > Also I posted the tiger-rules.txt sample on the wiki for wider access. -- Dale Puch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
It would be handy to get just the diff files. I did a diff in SQL against the named ways, but it would be handy to have a diff .OSM file for everyone to start with that contains all changes. I'm not sure how to do that. From: Dale Puch Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 1:45 PM To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available Reasonably easy to do yourself with Ian's java shp-to-osm. The worst part I have had was county wide osm converted tiger files in JOSM. But tat can be avoided several ways. http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo Attached is an old rules file I used as an example. Be sure to change the source field. A side note, with JOSM is there a way to copy from one layer to another while maintaining position? I have done it a few times in the past with copy and paste and then repositioning, but I would prefer to maintain the exact position. Dale On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Sam Vekemans wrote: Hi, Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger, and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in what ever they wish? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Dale Puch wrote: > Reasonably easy to do yourself with Ian's java shp-to-osm. The worst part > I have had was county wide osm converted tiger files in JOSM. But tat can > be avoided several ways. > http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo Attached is an old > rules file I used as an example. Be sure to change the source field. > > For your country-wide shp files.. are they actually USA.shp ; USA.shx USA.dbf ?? or is it broken down into states / counties / regions. or smart nts rectangles like Canada? :-) As i dont know if ians script can handle the size of files for the big shp file, i tahink that openJUMP can slice the SHP files in any why you like... then just saveAS each as a 1/4 size .shp file and run shp-to-osm that way, (running a separate command line for each of the 4 files)... anyone know if thats possable? A side note, with JOSM is there a waty to copy from one layer to another > while maintaining position? I have done it a few times in the past with > copy and paste and then repositioning, but I would prefer to maintain the > exact position. > > Thats 'select the way you want to copy. then you have to 'edit/copy' (ctrl-c doesn't work). then change the layer to the data.osm layer and make it active. then edit-paste. and its in the same position. I also, (for consistancy), go back to the roads.osm layer and select edit-delete. then hide that layer and go back to the data.osm layer and make it active and upload. This way, i keep track of what roads i have uploaded. (at least logically). then if i want to save it and work on it later, i saveAS that roads.osm file to 'roads-less-some.osm' so then i know that the file is my working. If i have a team working on the area.. i can then share this smaaller file with the group. Also, by manually selecting the top half of the roads.osm file (may take a while to select). and (edit-delete) then open up the roads.osm file again and select the bottom half, and edit / delete) you now have 2 smaller files to play with. Dale > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Sam Vekemans < > acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger, >> and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them >> available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in >> what ever they wish? >> >> Cheers, >> Sam >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > > -- > Dale Puch > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
Reasonably easy to do yourself with Ian's java shp-to-osm. The worst part I
have had was county wide osm converted tiger files in JOSM. But tat can be
avoided several ways.
http://redmine.yellowbkpk.com/projects/list_files/geo Attached is an old
rules file I used as an example. Be sure to change the source field.
A side note, with JOSM is there a way to copy from one layer to another
while maintaining position? I have done it a few times in the past with
copy and paste and then repositioning, but I would prefer to maintain the
exact position.
Dale
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Sam Vekemans
wrote:
> Hi,
> Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger,
> and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them
> available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in
> what ever they wish?
>
> Cheers,
> Sam
>
> ___
> Talk-us mailing list
> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
>
--
Dale Puch
# This is a comma-delimited format.
#
#US Tiger data rules V0.1
#
#By DaleP
#Edges, hydro, and point file features should be covered pretty well.
#
# Field: Description:
# 1 The shapefile type to match (outer, inner, line, point) (see below)
# 2 The source attribute name to match
# 3 The source attribute value to match. Can be empty to match all values.
# 4 The name of the tag to apply when the source key/value pair match.
# 5 The value of the tag to apply. Use a sinlgle dash ("-") to use the
original value.
#
# The shape file types are:
# outer = The outer polygon of a MultiPolygon
# inner = The inner polygon of a MultiPolygon
# line = A line string of a MultiLineString
# point = A point of a PointString
#
# Type, SRC_title, SRC_value, OSM_tag, OSM_Vale
outer,FULLNAME,,name,-
inner,FULLNAME,,name,-
line,FULLNAME,,name,-
point,FULLNAME,,name,-
outer,TLID,,Tiger:TLID,-
inner,TLID,,Tiger:TLID,-
line,TLID,,Tiger:TLID,-
point,TLID,,Tiger:TLID,-
outer,HYDROID,,Tiger:HYDROID,-
inner,HYDROID,,Tiger:HYDROID,-
line,HYDROID,,Tiger:HYDROID,-
point,HYDROID,,Tiger:HYDROID,-
outer,MTFCC,,Tiger:MTFCC,-
inner,MTFCC,,Tiger:MTFCC,-
line,MTFCC,,Tiger:MTFCC,-
point,MTFCC,,Tiger:MTFCC,-
outer,MTFCC,,Source,Tiger2008 by DaleP 2009-02-28
inner,MTFCC,,Source,Tiger2008 by DaleP 2009-02-28
line,MTFCC,,Source,Tiger2008 by DaleP 2009-02-28
point,MTFCC,,Source,Tiger2008 by DaleP 2009-02-28
#Edges MTFCC
outer,MTFCC,C3023,natural,land
outer,MTFCC,C3023,place,island
line,MTFCC,C3024,man_made,levee
line,MTFCC,C3027,waterway,dam
outer,MTFCC,C3027,waterway,dam
#line,MTFCC,H1100,manmade, Connector
line,MTFCC,K2432,man_made,pier
outer,MTFCC,K2451,aeroway,aerodrome
line,MTFCC,K2459,aeroway,runway
line,MTFCC,L4010,man_made,pipeline
line,MTFCC,L4020,power,line
line,MTFCC,L4031,aerialway,char_lift
#line,MTFCC,L4040,manmade, Conveyor
line,MTFCC,L4110,barrier,fence
line,MTFCC,L4121,natural,cliff
line,MTFCC,L4125,natural,cliff
outer,MTFCC,L4125,natural,cliff
#line,MTFCC,L4130,manmade, Point-to-Point Line
#line,MTFCC,L4140,boundry, Property/Parcel Line (Including PLSS)
line,MTFCC,L4165,route,ferry
line,MTFCC,P0001,boundry,civil
#line,MTFCC,P0002,boundry, Perennial Shoreline
#line,MTFCC,P0003,boundry, Intermittent Shoreline
#line,MTFCC,P0004,boundry, Other non-visible bounding Edge (e.g. Census water
boundary boundary of an areal feature)
line,MTFCC,R1011,railway,rail
line,MTFCC,R1051,railway,tram
line,MTFCC,R1052,railway,tram
line,MTFCC,S1100,highway,motorway
line,MTFCC,S1200,highway,primary
line,MTFCC,S1400,highway,residential
line,MTFCC,S1500,highway,path
line,MTFCC,S1630,highway,motorway_link
line,MTFCC,S1640,highway,service
line,MTFCC,S1710,highway,pedestrian
line,MTFCC,S1720,highway,steps
line,MTFCC,S1730,service,alley
line,MTFCC,S1740,highway,track
line,MTFCC,S1750,service,driveway
line,MTFCC,S1780,service,parking_asile
line,MTFCC,S1820,highway,cycleway
line,MTFCC,S1830,highway,bridleway
#hydro MTFCC
outer,MTFCC,H2025,natural,wetland
outer,MTFCC,H2030,natural,water
inner,MTFCC,H2030,natural,land
outer,MTFCC,H2040,landuse,reservoir
outer,MTFCC,H2041,man_made,wastewater_plant
outer,MTFCC,H2051,natural,bay
inner,MTFCC,H2051,natural,land
line,MTFCC,H2053,natural,coastline
outer,MTFCC,H3010,waterway,riverbank
inner,MTFCC,H3010,waterway,land
line,MTFCC,H3010,waterway,river
outer,MTFCC,H3013,waterway,riverbank
inner,MTFCC,H3013,waterway,land
line,MTFCC,H3013,waterway,stream
outer,MTFCC,H3020,waterway,riverbank
inner,MTFCC,H3020,waterway,land
line,MTFCC,H3020,waterway,canal
outer,MTFCC,H2060,natural,water
inner,MTFCC,H2060,natural,land
outer,MTFCC,H2081,natural,glacier
#point MTFCC
point,MTFCC,C3022,natural,peek
point,MTFCC,C3023,place,island
point,MTFCC,C3026,landuse,quarry
point,MTFCC,C3027,waterway,dam
point,MTFCC,C3061,highway,turning_circle
point,MTFCC,C3062,highway,mini_roundabout
point,MTFCC,C3066,barrier,gate
point,MTFCC,C3067,barrier,toll_booth
point,MTFCC,C3070,ma
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
Hi, Is anyone just simply running a country wide diff set from 2008 tiger, and then converting the files into .osm format and simply making them available, so local area mappers can claim their areas and copy-in what ever they wish? Cheers, Sam ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Kevin wrote: > Released October 1, 2009 > http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2009/tgrshp2009.html I downloaded my county and checked a few things. Some interchanges that were reconfigured in 2007-08 still appear in their old configuration. (For that matter, an interchange that was reconfigured from 1994-2003 still appears mostly in its old configuration.) But I suppose the census bureau isn't that interested in freeways. Still, most errors (even non-freeway ones) from the '07 files still persist in '09. There are a few new streets in there which weren't imported to OSM before. Some of them, I've drawn from Yahoo! imagery. Now I have names for those. Of course, I could have done my own field observation, but I have other priorities. -- David "Smith" a.k.a. Vid the Kid a.k.a. Bír'd'in Does this font make me look fat? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] 2009 TIGER Shapefiles now available
FYI - I did a diff from 2008 to 2009 for my county: 0 named ways deleted (probably reflects reality) 75 named ways added So there was a bit of activity. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
