Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Matthias Julius
Greg Williamson  writes:

> Just out of curiosity, how do our European companeros deal with things
> like "2-Bis" ? Most of the addresses I have seen in the US with
> letters tend to be campuses and business parks as opposed to street
> addresses.
>
> A legit address in France -- #2 rear would be my rough translation.

I just would not assume that an address is numerical.

There are house numbers in Germany like 25a, 25b, 25c, ...  or even 14 ½. 
They just are what they are.  This happens when a lot is divided up.
And we don't have 5-digit house numbers.  Typically they are consecutive
with even numbers on one side and odd numbers on the other.  The above
are the alway present exceptions to the rule.  And of course there are
other numbering schemes.

Matthias

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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Dave Hansen
On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 16:05 -0600, SteveC wrote:
> any idea where...? maybe we could get some locals to investigate what
> they are?

I added an "addr:raw" tag so we can find this in the future.  But,
here's one example.  There only appear to be a few of these per county.
I *think* they're mostly just garbage.  The other county that I looked
at had it isolated to this court:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=LO98+SE
+Braemark
+Ct&sll=45.429105,-122.543643&sspn=0.0016,0.002406&ie=UTF8&hq=LO98+SE
+Braemark&hnear=Connecticut&ll=45.429107,-122.543644&spn=0.003185,0.004812&z=18

But, as you can see, there's at most one house on that thing and there
was a whole range of addresses.  



































 
 
 












-- Dave


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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Mike N.
Most of the non-integer ones around here are within trailer parks.

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From: "SteveC" 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:05 PM
To: "Dave Hansen" 
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

> any idea where...? maybe we could get some locals to investigate what they 
> are?
 


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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Greg Williamson
Just out of curiosity, how do our European companeros deal with things like 
"2-Bis" ? Most of the addresses I have seen in the US with letters tend to be 
campuses and business parks as opposed to street addresses.

A legit address in France -- #2 rear would be my rough translation.

G



- Original Message 
From: David Lynch 
To: Dave Hansen ; talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 2:47:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 13:02, Dave Hansen  wrote:
> So, it seems that the TIGER data have some interesting addresses like:
>
> Non integer address: 9-35
> Non integer address: 9-01
> Non integer address: K200
> Non integer address: K210
>
> Anybody have any thoughts on how we should handle these?  The conversion
> script complains about them but I'm not even sure if it puts them in
> anyway or just warns.
>
> -- Dave

My first thought would be to go ahead and import them anyway and let
the users of the data figure out how to interpret them. Assuming the
first pair and last pair are each on the same segment, my intuition
would be that one refers to 9-01, 9-02, 9-03... and the second to
K200, K201, K202..., but I can't think of a good algorithm to match
these that wouldn't fail with the addresses Ian Dees mentioned that
have two independent integers in one alphanumeric string.

Just to add one more wrinkle, Austin has a few addresses that have a
fraction added to the end (e.g., down one side of a street, you might
have 402, 402 1/2, 404,) presumably from when one property was split
off from another.

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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread David Lynch
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 13:02, Dave Hansen  wrote:
> So, it seems that the TIGER data have some interesting addresses like:
>
> Non integer address: 9-35
> Non integer address: 9-01
> Non integer address: K200
> Non integer address: K210
>
> Anybody have any thoughts on how we should handle these?  The conversion
> script complains about them but I'm not even sure if it puts them in
> anyway or just warns.
>
> -- Dave

My first thought would be to go ahead and import them anyway and let
the users of the data figure out how to interpret them. Assuming the
first pair and last pair are each on the same segment, my intuition
would be that one refers to 9-01, 9-02, 9-03... and the second to
K200, K201, K202..., but I can't think of a good algorithm to match
these that wouldn't fail with the addresses Ian Dees mentioned that
have two independent integers in one alphanumeric string.

Just to add one more wrinkle, Austin has a few addresses that have a
fraction added to the end (e.g., down one side of a street, you might
have 402, 402 1/2, 404,) presumably from when one property was split
off from another.

-- 
David J. Lynch
djly...@gmail.com

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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread Ian Dees
As an example, we have WxyzNabc addressing in the western suburbs of
Milwaukee:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=43.208108,-88.161442&spn=0.003003,0.003428&z=18&iwloc=lyrftr:m,15548394324319276506,43.208382,-88.162156

The W203N10466 value is the actual numerical address (and appears on post
boxes like it was the "100" part of "100 Main St.").

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:05 PM, SteveC  wrote:

> any idea where...? maybe we could get some locals to investigate what they
> are?
>
> On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>
> > So, it seems that the TIGER data have some interesting addresses like:
> >
> > Non integer address: 9-35
> > Non integer address: 9-01
> > Non integer address: K200
> > Non integer address: K210
> >
> > Anybody have any thoughts on how we should handle these?  The conversion
> > script complains about them but I'm not even sure if it puts them in
> > anyway or just warns.
> >
> > -- Dave
> >
> >
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> Yours &c.
>
> Steve
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Re: [Talk-us] Non-Integer addresses

2009-11-16 Thread SteveC
any idea where...? maybe we could get some locals to investigate what they are?

On Nov 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Dave Hansen wrote:

> So, it seems that the TIGER data have some interesting addresses like:
> 
> Non integer address: 9-35
> Non integer address: 9-01
> Non integer address: K200
> Non integer address: K210
> 
> Anybody have any thoughts on how we should handle these?  The conversion
> script complains about them but I'm not even sure if it puts them in
> anyway or just warns.
> 
> -- Dave
> 
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Yours &c.

Steve


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