Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Eric Ladner]

I'm glad to see that things are progressing through normal, friendly
discourse rather than the "talk to the hand" or "talk to our lawyers" that
some companies hide behind.

Great job, MapBox, and thanks for all the work you do!

Sincerely,

Eric Ladner
non-professional map junkie

On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 3:06 PM Mikel Maron  wrote:

> > "enterprise subscription" to MapBox, they are exempt from needing to
> include OSM attribution
>
> There's some confusion. OpenStreetMap attribution is always required --
> Mapbox enterprise users can elect to remove only the Mapbox attribution.
>
> We here at Mapbox are on this. More soon.
>
> -Mikel
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Mikel Maron]

> "enterprise subscription" to MapBox, they are exempt from needing to include 
>OSM attribution
There's some confusion. OpenStreetMap attribution is always required -- Mapbox 
enterprise users can elect to remove only the Mapbox attribution.
We here at Mapbox are on this. More soon.
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Peter Dobratz]

/www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative
>>>> would understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the
>>>> bottom of each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published
>>>> for potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
>>>> future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
>>>> the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
>>>> drift from this email chain.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
>>>>> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Martijn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>>>>>
>>>>> Fred
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com <kli...@gmail.com>]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
>>>>> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
>>>>> *Cc:* talk-us@openstreetmap.org
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator
>>>>> pages
>>>>>
>>>>> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider.
>>>>> I have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
>>>>> wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
>>>>> http://www.mobify.com/contact/
>>>>>
>>>>>  Harald.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <
>>>>> hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
>>>>> i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Regards,*
>>>>> *Hans*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
>>>>> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
>>>>> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such 
>>>>> maps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone seen this?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://locations.pieology.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner,
>>>>> but I can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ 
>>>>> anywhere
>>>>> on the page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> *MATT SIMPSON*
>>> *Interactive Director*
>>>
>>> *+ MAGNETIC CREATIVE +*
>>> O: 951-506-7662 / ext. 15
>>> C: 858- 705-2490
>>>
>>> *www.magneticcreative.com <http://www.magneticcreative.com/>*
>>> *twitter.com/magn3tic <http://twitter.com/magn3tic>**  ///  
>>> **fb.com/magn3tic
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>>>
>>> *WHERE IDEAS ATTRACT*
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Peter Dobratz]

I filled out the contact form on the Mobify website as they are the ones
that are being attributed without also crediting OSM.  I'll let you know if
I hear anything back.


Meanwhile, Cricket Wireless is running a store locator page, which is also
using the MapBox tiles derived from OSM data, but without attribution:
https://www.cricketwireless.com/stores

Cricket has an elaborate page about submitting copyright claims:
https://www.cricketwireless.com/legal-info/cricket-wireless-copyright-trademark-claims.html

As a first step, I tried sending an email to copyri...@cricketwireless.com.
However, that email bounced back with a "#550 5.1.1
RESOLVER.ADR.RecipNotFound; not found ##"
I'm not sure about the best way to proceed from here.

Peter

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Matt Simpson <m...@mag.cr> wrote:
>
>> All - seaming to understand the intent of this thread and hoping to shed
>> some light for you.
>>
>> Our team (MAGNETIC) was hired to design/develop the pieology website.
>> Pieology also hired a company to build their store locator, which was
>> outside our scope of work. The company they hired for store location
>> services is Momentfeed (https://momentfeed.com/), seemingly a branch or
>> distributor of Mobify, who looks to be using your service at the core of
>> the location tool they provide.
>>
>> I would suggest contacting Momentfeed and/or Mobify to discuss
>> attribution. As someone mentioned earlier, Pieology will have very little
>> input on the matter.
>>
>> Hope this helps -
>>
>>
> Matt,
>
> Thank you for the response.  www.OpenStreetMap.org is a crowd sourced map
> of the world. I love it that the Pieology site is using OSM.  There are a
> number of other notable sites that are using OSM such as Craig's list
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/fua .  We are just trying to get to
> the bottom of which firm should put the correct attribution on the Pieology
> site.  I provided the CL map because it has the proper attribution.
>
> Again thank you for the response.
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers —
>>>> abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the
>>>> web site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end
>>>> user and OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the
>>>> others for attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to
>>>> enforce this simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from
>>>> having many eyes on the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There is one more layer of abstraction: the design firm
>>> http://www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative
>>> would understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the
>>> bottom of each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published
>>> for potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
>>> future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
>>> the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
>>> drift from this email chain.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
>>>> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>>>>
>>>> Martijn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>>>>
>>>> Fred
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com <kli...@gmail.com>]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
>>>> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Pe

Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Greg Morgan]

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Matt Simpson <m...@mag.cr> wrote:

> All - seaming to understand the intent of this thread and hoping to shed
> some light for you.
>
> Our team (MAGNETIC) was hired to design/develop the pieology website.
> Pieology also hired a company to build their store locator, which was
> outside our scope of work. The company they hired for store location
> services is Momentfeed (https://momentfeed.com/), seemingly a branch or
> distributor of Mobify, who looks to be using your service at the core of
> the location tool they provide.
>
> I would suggest contacting Momentfeed and/or Mobify to discuss
> attribution. As someone mentioned earlier, Pieology will have very little
> input on the matter.
>
> Hope this helps -
>
>
Matt,

Thank you for the response.  www.OpenStreetMap.org is a crowd sourced map
of the world. I love it that the Pieology site is using OSM.  There are a
number of other notable sites that are using OSM such as Craig's list
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/search/fua .  We are just trying to get to
the bottom of which firm should put the correct attribution on the Pieology
site.  I provided the CL map because it has the proper attribution.

Again thank you for the response.

Regards,
Greg




> On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 6:40 AM, Greg Morgan <dr.kludge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers —
>>> abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the
>>> web site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end
>>> user and OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the
>>> others for attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to
>>> enforce this simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from
>>> having many eyes on the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> There is one more layer of abstraction: the design firm
>> http://www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative would
>> understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the bottom of
>> each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published for
>> potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
>> future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
>> the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
>> drift from this email chain.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
>>> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>>>
>>> Martijn
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com <kli...@gmail.com>]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
>>> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
>>> *Cc:* talk-us@openstreetmap.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages
>>>
>>> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I
>>> have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
>>> wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
>>> http://www.mobify.com/contact/
>>>
>>>  Harald.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <
>>> hans.dekryge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
>>> i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>>>
>>> *Regards,*
>>> *Hans*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us> wrote:
>>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
>>> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
>>> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>>>
>>> Has an

Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Greg Morgan]

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org> wrote:

> Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers —
> abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the
> web site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end
> user and OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the
> others for attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to
> enforce this simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from
> having many eyes on the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop.
>
>


There is one more layer of abstraction: the design firm
http://www.magneticcreative.com/.  It seems that Magnetic Creative would
understand this issue.  They have their name in fine print at the bottom of
each page on the site.  Just as they want their name published for
potential clients, OpenStreetMap would like attribution for potential
future mappers.  I added their email to the list.  They would have to join
the list to respond, etc.  However, they should be able to pick up the
drift from this email chain.

Regards,
Greg







> To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this
> present on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?
>
> Martijn
>
>
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>
>
> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>
> Fred
>
> --
> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com <kli...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
> *To:* Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
> *Cc:* talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages
>
> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I
> have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
> wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
> http://www.mobify.com/contact/
>
>  Harald.
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
> i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>
> *Regards,*
> *Hans*
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us> wrote:
> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
> http://locations.pieology.com/
>
> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner, but I
> can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere on
> the page.
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Martijn van Exel]

Interesting, a bit troubling, to see an increasing number of layers — 
abstraction — between the end user and the OSM data. Now it’s three — the web 
site itself, Mobify (never heard of them), Mapbox —  between the end user and 
OSM. Makes it easier for all the intermediaries to point to the others for 
attribution requirements. And harder for the OSM community to enforce this 
simple but important requirement. OSM can only benefit from having many eyes on 
the map if we can continue to close this feedback loop. 

To my mind it’s on Mapbox to enforce attribution, I assume having this present 
on the map is in the terms they present to their customers?

Martijn

> On Apr 13, 2016, at 7:31 AM, Fred Hillhouse <f.hillhouse...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?
>  
> http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g
>  
> <http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_token=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g>
>  
> Fred
>  
> From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
> To: Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
> Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages
>  
> Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I have 
> suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and wouldn't 
> be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify: 
> http://www.mobify.com/contact/ <http://www.mobify.com/contact/> 
>  
>  Harald.
>  
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:hans.dekryge...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails 
>> i...@pieology.com <mailto:i...@pieology.com> if you want to contact them.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>  
>> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us 
>> <mailto:pe...@dobratz.us>> wrote:
>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto which 
>> things like store location data is displayed on store websites.  However, 
>> it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>>  
>> Has anyone seen this?
>>  
>> http://locations.pieology.com/ <http://locations.pieology.com/>
>>  
>> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ <http://www.mobify.com/> in the 
>> lower-left corner, but I can't seem to find any links to 
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/ <http://www.openstreetmap.org/> anywhere on 
>> the page.
>>  
>> Peter
>>  
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Fred Hillhouse]

 

Their tiles are coming from Mapbox. Who gets the attribution?

 

http://b.tiles.mapbox.com/v4/dondeinc.i1021nhc/17/37433/50038.jpg70?access_t
oken=pk.eyJ1IjoiZG9uZGVpbmMiLCJhIjoiZ200QzN4dyJ9.KIhMqSmPUSn9Kru51GZT4g

 

Fred

 

  _  

From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 8:08 AM
To: Hans De Kryger; Peter Dobratz
Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

 

Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I have
suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and wouldn't
be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
http://www.mobify.com/contact/ 

 

 Harald.

 

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.




Regards,

Hans

 

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz <pe...@dobratz.us> wrote:

I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto which
things like store location data is displayed on store websites.  However,
it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.

 

Has anyone seen this?

 

http://locations.pieology.com/

 

There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner, but I
can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere on
the page.

 

Peter

 


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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Harald Kliems]

Might make more sense to directly contact Mobify as the map provider. I
have suspicion Pieology will have no clue what you're talking about and
wouldn't be able to fix it themselves anyway. Contact for mobify:
http://www.mobify.com/contact/

 Harald.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:10 AM Hans De Kryger 
wrote:

> I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
> i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.
>
> *Regards,*
>
> *Hans*
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:
>
>> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
>> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
>> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>>
>> Has anyone seen this?
>>
>> http://locations.pieology.com/
>>
>> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner, but I
>> can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere
>> on the page.
>>
>> Peter
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM attribution on website store locator pages

[Hans De Kryger]

I see nothing on the entire site linking/mentioning osm. their emails
i...@pieology.com if you want to contact them.

*Regards,*

*Hans*

On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Peter Dobratz  wrote:

> I'm seeing OSM data used more and more for generating the basemap onto
> which things like store location data is displayed on store websites.
> However, it's not always easy to find links to OSM attribution on such maps.
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
> http://locations.pieology.com/
>
> There's a link to http://www.mobify.com/ in the lower-left corner, but I
> can't seem to find any links to http://www.openstreetmap.org/ anywhere on
> the page.
>
> Peter
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