Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-29 Thread Bill Ricker
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Mike N.  wrote:

>  Actually I inadvertently published a private email when I first joined
> because it was not set up to reply to the list.  I saw the weirdness, and
> thought it was like another list which had a dead reply-to address and got
> in the habit of manually putting in the listserv address instead of just
> reply, and didn't notice that the mail was only addressed to me.


Wow, that's a new one on me  and I've seen this argument for more
decades than most. Congratudelences on a unique use case !

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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-29 Thread Mike N.

> header.  It would save nearly everybody from occasional frustration
> and frequent minor annoyance.

Instead, people would inadvertantly publish private email.


 Actually I inadvertently published a private email when I first joined 
because it was not set up to reply to the list.  I saw the weirdness, and 
thought it was like another list which had a dead reply-to address and got 
in the habit of manually putting in the listserv address instead of just 
reply, and didn't notice that the mail was only addressed to me.




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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II
What's stupid is that it's set up differently for different OSM lists.
Tagging and apparently newbies use reply-to, while talk and talk-us
don't. I don't really care which way it is, but make it consistent
across lists.

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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-28 Thread Bill Ricker
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Jeffrey Ollie  wrote:

> http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html
>
> And then please let this topic go away.


+1


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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-28 Thread Russ Nelson
David ``Smith'' writes:
 > Why doesn't the talk-us list use the "reply-to" field so that simple
 > replies go to the list, not just the original poster?  The newbies
 > list does that.  Every other e-mail list I've ever been on does that.
 > So why not this one?

http://russnelson.com/rt.html

 > header.  It would save nearly everybody from occasional frustration
 > and frequent minor annoyance.

Instead, people would inadvertantly publish private email.

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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-10 Thread Dave Hansen
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 16:59 -0400, David ``Smith'' wrote:
> Why doesn't the talk-us list use the "reply-to" field so that simple
> replies go to the list, not just the original poster?  The newbies
> list does that.  Every other e-mail list I've ever been on does that.
> So why not this one?

It's a religious topic, indeed.  Every email list I'm familiar with does
the opposite of every one of yours. ;)

There are about 200 subscribers, currently.  If you want the default
changed, I'm open to it, although I probably won't change it unless
there's a pretty strong consensus for it, and little dissent against a
change.

Let's not argue the merits of either approach.  But, if you have an
opinion on it either way send me a quick, private mail.  

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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:59 PM, David ``Smith''  wrote:
>
> Why doesn't the talk-us list use the "reply-to" field so that simple
> replies go to the list, not just the original poster?  The newbies
> list does that.  Every other e-mail list I've ever been on does that.
> So why not this one?

Please let's not start this discussion here (again probably, I'm not
going to search the archives).  This is a religious topic - there's no
"right" answer and discussions rarely result in anything positive.
For reference, please read:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
http://www.metasystema.net/essays/reply-to.html
http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html

And then please let this topic go away.

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Re: [Talk-us] Reply-to field in list messages

2010-06-10 Thread Mike N.

> Please let's not start this discussion here (again probably, I'm not
> going to search the archives).  This is a religious topic - there's no
> "right" answer and discussions rarely result in anything positive.
> For reference, please read:

  A more relevant thread is at

http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-September/041487.html

  In summary, one or more subscribers to these lists have a broken MTA that 
creates an endless loop that soaks up volunteer admin time when using 
reply-to-list.Therefore it is set this way in order to be able to have a 
list at all.

 


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