Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects
my mistake On Dec 4, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Sarah Manley wrote: No just talk-us, not the actually lists were contacted. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:43 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I thought I mailed all the talk-us-* lists when I asked for input? On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Sarah Manley wrote: Agreed that at this point in time, having everything centralized here is the best way forward. I would like to make a request for the future though, that if a list is marked for deletion that a message is sent out on that list informing them. (maybe a week ahead of time). I was the admin for the bay area list and didn't know if was deleted until my email to it bounced. It would have been helpful to let folks know, and encourage them to enlist here if they weren't already (or to join the meetup group which is now being used at the local event list as well). At this point in the project, we can use as many mappers as possible, and don't want to lose folks who may only be involved on a localized level. Thanks, Sarah -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:03:22 -0800 From: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 1259769802.24696.2521.ca...@nimitz Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:55 -0500, Dale Puch wrote: I think the idea was that there wasn't that much traffic that it would bother the talk-us group, and what was there the rest of us could possible benefit from. Yeah, that's what I took from it too. It will be a wonderful day when we have so much activity on this list that there's a desperate need to break it up somehow. As talk-us list dictator, I hereby declare that any local discussions about anywhere in the country are more than welcome here. :) -- Dave -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:18:57 -0800 From: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Cc: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com, talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: eb9f7ae1-b080-4092-86aa-a65229fdd...@asklater.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii agreed multiple empty lists are sub-optimal, and what we saw in Europe was that local events, published on a national scale encouraged people to travel long distances to them, and prodded competition to start other events where people couldn't make it. Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us This may very well already be the defacto standard, but if not, might I suggest that we establish a best practice of prefixing subjects which are regionally directed with a 2-4 character region prefix followed by a colon? NY: has already been used. other states also would be by postal code abbreviation If you need a broader or narrower region, such as New England (NwEn?) or SF/Bay area (SFB?), etc. then as long as you don't step on a state, if you get there first, it's yours. This would allow those who are interested in a particular region to be pricked by the prefix, and would also make it easy to search the list for regionally specific entries. Anything without a prefix would be of general US interest. -- Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Yours c. Steve Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects
Agreed that at this point in time, having everything centralized here is the best way forward. I would like to make a request for the future though, that if a list is marked for deletion that a message is sent out on that list informing them. (maybe a week ahead of time). I was the admin for the bay area list and didn't know if was deleted until my email to it bounced. It would have been helpful to let folks know, and encourage them to enlist here if they weren't already (or to join the meetup group which is now being used at the local event list as well). At this point in the project, we can use as many mappers as possible, and don't want to lose folks who may only be involved on a localized level. Thanks, Sarah -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:03:22 -0800 From: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 1259769802.24696.2521.ca...@nimitz Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:55 -0500, Dale Puch wrote: I think the idea was that there wasn't that much traffic that it would bother the talk-us group, and what was there the rest of us could possible benefit from. Yeah, that's what I took from it too. It will be a wonderful day when we have so much activity on this list that there's a desperate need to break it up somehow. As talk-us list dictator, I hereby declare that any local discussions about anywhere in the country are more than welcome here. :) -- Dave -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:18:57 -0800 From: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Cc: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com, talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: eb9f7ae1-b080-4092-86aa-a65229fdd...@asklater.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii agreed multiple empty lists are sub-optimal, and what we saw in Europe was that local events, published on a national scale encouraged people to travel long distances to them, and prodded competition to start other events where people couldn't make it. Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us This may very well already be the defacto standard, but if not, might I suggest that we establish a best practice of prefixing subjects which are regionally directed with a 2-4 character region prefix followed by a colon? NY: has already been used. other states also would be by postal code abbreviation If you need a broader or narrower region, such as New England (NwEn?) or SF/Bay area (SFB?), etc. then as long as you don't step on a state, if you get there first, it's yours. This would allow those who are interested in a particular region to be pricked by the prefix, and would also make it easy to search the list for regionally specific entries. Anything without a prefix would be of general US interest. -- Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects
I thought I mailed all the talk-us-* lists when I asked for input? On Dec 3, 2009, at 8:11 AM, Sarah Manley wrote: Agreed that at this point in time, having everything centralized here is the best way forward. I would like to make a request for the future though, that if a list is marked for deletion that a message is sent out on that list informing them. (maybe a week ahead of time). I was the admin for the bay area list and didn't know if was deleted until my email to it bounced. It would have been helpful to let folks know, and encourage them to enlist here if they weren't already (or to join the meetup group which is now being used at the local event list as well). At this point in the project, we can use as many mappers as possible, and don't want to lose folks who may only be involved on a localized level. Thanks, Sarah -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 08:03:22 -0800 From: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 1259769802.24696.2521.ca...@nimitz Content-Type: text/plain On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:55 -0500, Dale Puch wrote: I think the idea was that there wasn't that much traffic that it would bother the talk-us group, and what was there the rest of us could possible benefit from. Yeah, that's what I took from it too. It will be a wonderful day when we have so much activity on this list that there's a desperate need to break it up somehow. As talk-us list dictator, I hereby declare that any local discussions about anywhere in the country are more than welcome here. :) -- Dave -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:18:57 -0800 From: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net Cc: Dale Puch dale.p...@gmail.com, talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: eb9f7ae1-b080-4092-86aa-a65229fdd...@asklater.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii agreed multiple empty lists are sub-optimal, and what we saw in Europe was that local events, published on a national scale encouraged people to travel long distances to them, and prodded competition to start other events where people couldn't make it. Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us This may very well already be the defacto standard, but if not, might I suggest that we establish a best practice of prefixing subjects which are regionally directed with a 2-4 character region prefix followed by a colon? NY: has already been used. other states also would be by postal code abbreviation If you need a broader or narrower region, such as New England (NwEn?) or SF/Bay area (SFB?), etc. then as long as you don't step on a state, if you get there first, it's yours. This would allow those who are interested in a particular region to be pricked by the prefix, and would also make it easy to search the list for regionally specific entries. Anything without a prefix would be of general US interest. -- Randy ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Yours c. Steve ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 03:55 -0500, Dale Puch wrote: I think the idea was that there wasn't that much traffic that it would bother the talk-us group, and what was there the rest of us could possible benefit from. Yeah, that's what I took from it too. It will be a wonderful day when we have so much activity on this list that there's a desperate need to break it up somehow. As talk-us list dictator, I hereby declare that any local discussions about anywhere in the country are more than welcome here. :) -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects
Paul, Your in luck: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Gilroy_Mapping_Party ; http://www.meetup.com/Bay-Area-OpenStreetMappers/ Now that the bay area list was deleted the meetup is really the best place to fine events (although I do make sure its on the wiki as well). This is in conjunction with a local sierra club group. Best, Sarah -- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:59:16 +0100 From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] [josm-dev] Poor JOSM Yahoo imagery solution? To: andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com Cc: Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net, josm-dev josm-...@openstreetmap.org, talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: 4b0bae74.3040...@remote.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Hi, andrzej zaborowski wrote: I have heard on IRC that Potlatch bends the API slightly to get these images. Ooh, evil... guess we'll have to ban it! However, the only area Yahoo has better resolution than z=1 is the US where the imager comes from another source (calles USGS I think) that can be used as a WMS directly so there's little gain from being able to get it through Yahoo. I am not familiar with the gory details but the original poster wrote: Unfortunately, the particular area I'm working on does not have Terraserver/USGS urban imagery available. Whereas he had splendid Yahoo imagery in Potlatch. Bye Frederik -- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:10:46 + From: Paul Jarratt pej...@gmail.com Subject: [Talk-us] San Francisco / Bay area projects To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org talk-us@openstreetmap.org Message-ID: bad98792-23fa-4035-9d33-1b25833a9...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi All I have a journalist from the San Jose Mercury News writing an article about OpenStreetMap who is keen to connect with mapping parties in the bay area that are carrying out specific projects. Is anyone organizing anything in the next few week or know about something that has been completed recently that might be considered newsworthy? Thanks for your help. Paul Jarratt +1 650 644 8449 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us