Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
That's pretty neat. I looked in my area and there are a bunch of bugs reported, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong. They are reported in Spanish, which I can read so-so, but I know the areas pretty well and can't see major problems. Does it have to do with the way iphones report the errors? Can they be off by a fair bit in terms of distance? On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 07:09:40 pm Richard Weait wrote: > Hi all. > > I just had a look at the new OpenStreetBugs implementation at > mapdust.com. It's pretty slick and integrates nicely with postlatch / > josm. There are a couple of bugs reported in Rochester, including > this one in Greece. Would anybody be able to zip over there and > collect a trace? > > http://www.mapdust.com/detail/28434 > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
That's pretty neat. I looked in my area and there are a bunch of bugs reported, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong. They are reported in Spanish, which I can read so-so, but I know the areas pretty well and can't see major problems. Does it have to do with the way iphones report the errors? Can they be off by a fair bit in terms of distance? I've been working these for a while, and it's often difficult to figure out what's wrong. In a few cases, you can see the green trace of the SmartPhone is off the road by about 5 or 6 meters. In some cases, drivers obviously cannot report bugs while driving through the affected area, so I look around at things nearby that can match their description: 1 way streets or new construction - (usually requires a survey) Bridges - (Aerial imagery, a "turn now" while on bridge sort of thing) A road needing a dual carriageway because it told them to turn across a divided highway. Missing or incorrect routing connection details: left turn lane, missing divided highway connector. About half of them are just head scratchers. Speed limits are not useful because they don't exactly identify the start and end of a speed zone. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, James U wrote: > That's pretty neat. I looked in my area and there are a bunch of bugs > reported, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong. They are > reported in Spanish, which I can read so-so, but I know the areas pretty well > and can't see major problems. > > Does it have to do with the way iphones report the errors? Can they be off > by a fair bit in terms of distance? I've been sucked in to looking at several bugs. ;-) One didn't make sense to me. The route given and route taken were both on the freeway, and the report was something like "still on freeway." The one way street bug was helpful. The route instructions said turn right, the trace followed showed them going around the block, and they helpfully left two bugs, as both streets were oneway=yes. A+ I would debug again. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
I saw a "stay on the highway" bug and I think that means that they're annoyed by the directions telling them to stay on the highway every time they enter a separate way. Either the routing software needs tofigure this out or it needs to use the route relations. On Tuesday, November 23, 2010 08:09:30 pm Richard Weait wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, James U wrote: > > That's pretty neat. I looked in my area and there are a bunch of bugs > > reported, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong. They > > are reported in Spanish, which I can read so-so, but I know the areas > > pretty well and can't see major problems. > > > > Does it have to do with the way iphones report the errors? Can they be > > off by a fair bit in terms of distance? > > I've been sucked in to looking at several bugs. ;-) > > One didn't make sense to me. The route given and route taken were > both on the freeway, and the report was something like "still on > freeway." > > The one way street bug was helpful. The route instructions said turn > right, the trace followed showed them going around the block, and they > helpfully left two bugs, as both streets were oneway=yes. A+ I would > debug again. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
On 11/23/10 8:09 PM, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:50 PM, James U wrote: That's pretty neat. I looked in my area and there are a bunch of bugs reported, but I can't for the life of me figure out what is wrong. They are reported in Spanish, which I can read so-so, but I know the areas pretty well and can't see major problems. Does it have to do with the way iphones report the errors? Can they be off by a fair bit in terms of distance? I've been sucked in to looking at several bugs. ;-) One didn't make sense to me. The route given and route taken were both on the freeway, and the report was something like "still on freeway." The one way street bug was helpful. The route instructions said turn right, the trace followed showed them going around the block, and they helpfully left two bugs, as both streets were oneway=yes. A+ I would debug again. poking around albany, ny and assuming that these are coming from the skobbler iphone app, i suspect that the app authors are confused about metric vs english maxspeed values. i put "maxspeed=48" on a lot of these back before the wiki got modified to indicate that "maxspeed=30 mph" was acceptable usage, and there are a number of missing speed where i set the speed to 48 back then. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
I saw a "stay on the highway" bug and I think that means that they're annoyed by the directions telling them to stay on the highway every time they enter a separate way. Either the routing software needs tofigure this out or it needs to use the route relations. I see this report many times also, often while on the interstate. I found some places on the Interstate where I saw the app doing this - I drove it, and looked at the data 10-ways 'til Sunday, and it's just a random routing bug with no anomalies in the data.They are working on a major release before the end of the year - it should correct a bunch of these things. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] seek Mapper in Rochester NY (Greece)
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > Hi all. > > I just had a look at the new OpenStreetBugs implementation at > mapdust.com. It's pretty slick and integrates nicely with postlatch / > josm. Is there a way to use their routing engine online to try to reproduce the problems? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
