Re[4]: Gamma testing (was: Re: Test-Message)

2000-01-17 Thread tracer

Hello Stefan Tanurkov,
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:48:58 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, January 17, 2000, 6:48:58 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

Stefan Hello tracer,


 that means gamma is after beta:
t In the alphabet, yes, I just never heard it being used before in
t software development..

Stefan But I did :-)   This is the right guess.
Ok, so whats the CURRENT status, pre-alpha???

Stefan Gamma = pre-release. This usually mean that all (or most) known bugs
Stefan are eliminated, but the version should be tested for some more time
Stefan before the official release.

maybe we never hear of it normally as MS skips that stage (g).
Anyway, I like to see what the others say, just in case you have a
different way of naming it then anywhere else..



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Re: Various suggetions

2000-01-17 Thread Allie Martin

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 13:18:51 +, Martyn Drake wrote:

 1. Auto-wrapping whilst reading text in window (note: not whilst
 editing a message, but whilst reading a message).  I'll be darned if I
 can find any switch within The Bat 1.3x that can do this.  My
 auto-wrap switch in Options - Editor Preferences is definately
 enabled.

TB!'s message viewer window wraps long lines by default though not in
a dynamic fashion. :(  IOW, if you display a message and the lines, being
too long for display, are window wrapped, resizing the window will not
lead to an on the fly readjustment of the window wrapping. It is this lack
of on the fly readjustments and the attachments display that makes it seem
as if TB!'s message viewer doesn't window wrap.

 2. Attachment icons at the bottom of the message window rather than at
 the left hand side, or alternatively a configuration option to have
 the attachment icons at either the left hand side, the right hand
 side, or at the bottom of the message.  Saves having to resize the
 side to fit any text that comes with the message (partly due to the
 non-wrapping of text in the message window).

I very much wish for this attachments bar to be at the bottom if it
had to be in one place only. It would not only make one able to always
read the text associated with each attachment's icon, but the bar will not
interfere with the visibility of the message text body.

This is especially evident with messages not properly wrapped and are
window wrapped to prevent having to scroll sideways. It would appear that
the window wrapping doesn't take into account the space taken up by the
attachments display bar unless you have the attachments side-bar set to
always visible.

One way to illustrate my point is to do the following:

a) Open any message with an attachment and then give the attachments
bar a generous thickness ( this will make the problem more evident ).
Ensure that the attachments side-bar is set to be viewed automatically.
Now open a message with unwrapped text. This is typical with an HTML
message viewed in plain text only format. Note how one has to be scrolling
sideways to see text because the attachments side-bar has pushed it off
the screen. The text has been wrapped but wrapped to be viewed within the
window without the attachments side-bar displayed.

b) Now, before closing this message, go to the attachments option and
set the attachments side-bar to be always visible. Now close and reopen
the message. Look at the plain text version. Note how it is nicely wrapped
and completely in view.

Because of this I always have the attachments side-bar set to always
visible to prevent problems with window wrapping. If the attachments are
made to be visible at the bottom or top of the screen, this problem would
not exist. Of course another solution would be to either make the window
wrapping mechanism dynamic or provide a toggle to reapply the wrapping. A
switch for wrapping should be provided anyway, because it's not all the
time that one wants messages to be window wrapped.

[..snip..]

 4. Saving window positions

   Especially the editor window. Infuriating to have to be chasing it all
over the screen as it opens to each cascade position. Leave the cascading
to the OS.

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The Bat! - bug report

2000-01-17 Thread Markus Gloede

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.39 Beta/1 Serial Number 4A849B39
  under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 5
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
Redirecting multiple selected messages using the address selection
dialog that pops up creates an access violation:

Exception EAccessViolation in module thebat.exe at 30F231BC.
Access violation at address 31324400. Read of address 31324400.

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
Select more than one message to redirect and click the re-direct
button. A dialog appears giving you the opportunity to open
multiple editor windows or select a recipient from the address
book. Select the second option and pick an address. Click OK in
the address selection dialog. Now click OK on the re-direct
dialog and access violation occurs.

Regards,
  Markus Gloede

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Re: The Bat! - bug report

2000-01-17 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hello Markus,

On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 17:53:15 +0100 GMT (18.01.2000, 00:53 +0800 GMT),
Markus Gloede wrote:

MG   The bug description:
MG Redirecting multiple selected messages using the address selection
MG dialog that pops up creates an access violation:

I confirm this here.

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message too big warnings... - a suggestion

2000-01-17 Thread MaXxX

Hello Batmen!

It just occurred to me when I used the "warn if a message is bigger than..." feature.
Okay, instead of downloading a huge file, Bat writes a short memo with the huge mail's
header in details. Okay, a great feature.
Then I noticed that it even shows the message number it has on the server! Even more
great, I thought.
And then came the bad part.
I chose "dispatch messages on server", "all messages".
Then, I remembered that I left "leave messages on server" checked, by accident.
And, through my modem, 1032 mail headers started coming in. One at about 3 seconds.
When I realized that 3600 seconds, an HOUR, of my precious online time will be lost
forever, I had to turn the thing off.

And, for Bat's sake, why - even if I download a message 'by hand', with the dispatcher,
doesn't the big message get through!? It should ignore the size limit then, now
shouldn't it? The users wouldn't then have to mess with the settings, just to download
a big message they already know of and they WANT to download it...

Now, the suggestion!

  ADD an option in the "dispatch messages..." menu:
  "DOWNLOAD A MESSAGE BY NUMBER, WITHOUT CHECKING FOR THE SIZE LIMIT" !



  
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Re: Various suggetions

2000-01-17 Thread Andrew K. Lovetski

Dear Martyn Drake,

MD 4. Saving window positions, ALL account information and editor
MD preferences in a file rather than the registry.  When restoring The
MD Bat! from backup, it's a PIA having to go to Accounts - New, and then
MD set-up the acccounts again.  The files and data are already there - it
MD should just be the case of restoring from the backup and having
MD everything ready to go.

Then backup the registry part, too. When restoring from backup, just
run the exported REG files, that's will do the thing. If you don't
like Regedit's popup dialogs about importing files, run

regedit /s regfile.reg

It'll be silent.

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Re: S/N (was:Re: The Bat! - bug report)

2000-01-17 Thread Sashka

Hello,

R there's also a new macro to display the serial...
R although i can't think of any use except for RIT...
R it's: %TheBatSerialNumber

TF Thanks - that was my question. ;-)
TF In fact, how did you find this out?


When you install 1.39 release, it shows What's New.. It said there.

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Re: S/N OFFICIAL 1.39

2000-01-17 Thread Roel

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Hello Thomas,

TF Thanks - that was my question. ;-)
TF In fact, how did you find this out?

we got notice that 1.39 official was out (on the tbudl), so i downed
it from the rit-site...

there, next to the download-link, there's a "what's new"-button...
just click on it...
they used to post it here  on the tbudl, but i figure they forgot
it...

so, for everyone who missed it: the 1.39 official is out :-)

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Re[2]: S/N OFFICIAL 1.39

2000-01-17 Thread tracer

Hello Roel,
On Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:50:03 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Tuesday, January 18, 2000, 9:50:03 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Roel wrote:

Roel we got notice that 1.39 official was out (on the tbudl), so i downed
Roel it from the rit-site...
 did they update the whole archive??

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Re: Various suggetions

2000-01-17 Thread Michael L. Stepuchev

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Hi, Andrew K. Lovetski.
 regedit /s regfile.reg
 It'll be silent.

Not in Windows 2000...
:(

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