Colour groups and filtering

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hello Stefan,

  I don't remember was it discussed or not but there are some problems
  with color groups:

  1. There are two  groups. Even if you delete one of them it
  will appear the next time. And this new one is working as none or
  Generic group from menu. So you need to set up both of them with the
  same options or your own colors will not work.

  2. I set up a filter which is changing the group only and then let
  the other filters work. When I tried to re-filter the folder all the
  messages which were accepted by this filter were moved back to inbox
  and I had to re-filter it too.

  3. The sorting by color group makes weird things showing the
  messages in different order every time you click the column header.

  And some funny thing: the internal spell checker doesn't know the
  word "colour" and wants me to use "color" instead.


  (I'm using winnt 4.0 server sp6a)

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Re: Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)

[Syafril Hermansyah]

Hello Marck D. Pearlstone,

Responding  to  your  article  on Monday, April 24, 2000 at 09:52:14 GMT
+0100 (which was 24/04/2000 15:52 GMT +0700 my Local Time) :

MDP> On  24  April  2000  at 16:26:33 GMT +0800 (which was 09:26 where I
MDP> live)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote and made these points on the subject
MDP> of "Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)":

TF>>> Received: from ns2.dutaint.com [203.130.233.13] by in1.prserv.net
TF>>> id 956560460.184186-1 ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:14:25 +

TF>>> Received: from ho.bhakti.co.id by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP
TF>>> (MDaemon.v3.0.3.R) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000
TF>>> 14:06:36 +0700

MDP> ^^ Here's the time lapse in this jump. The message was
MDP> stuck on a routing server in Indonesia.

[Sorry for late reply, I was going to out of town
]
Thebat  List  Server  was down this morning (around 07:00 AM GMT+07:00),
due DNSServer problem ("laming"), so all messages spool on the MX backup
(i.e. ho.bhakti.co.id).

TF>>> Received: from ms10.hinet.net by ho.bhakti.co.id with SMTP
TF>>> (MDaemon.v2.8.6.0e.R) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24
TF>>> Apr 2000 09:55:57 +0700

TF>>> Received: from 00284 ([210.242.5.6]) by ms10.hinet.net
TF>>> (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14275 for
TF>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:49:15 +0800
TF>>> (CST)

>> I had a trunaround time of roughly 5 hours on this message. If I am
>> the only one, then it must be my server and it is time to change ISP.
>> Can anybody confirm the long turnaround time or not?

MDP> We don't have too :-) it's clearly visible in the headers.

No problem at your site Thomas.
I just realize the problem 5 hours after the server down.
Sorry to all for inconveniences.

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Re: Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Marck,

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:52:14 +0100GMT (24/04/2000, 16:52 +0800GMT),
Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

MDP> We don't have too :-) it's clearly visible in the headers.

Thanks :-) "Clearly visible"? Ah, sure. ;-)

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Re: Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Thomas,

On 24 April 2000 at 16:26:33 GMT +0800 (which was 09:26 where I
live) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote and made these points on the subject
of "Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)":

TF>> Received: from ns2.dutaint.com [203.130.233.13] by in1.prserv.net
TF>> id 956560460.184186-1 ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:14:25 +

TF>> Received: from ho.bhakti.co.id by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP
TF>> (MDaemon.v3.0.3.R) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000
TF>> 14:06:36 +0700

^^ Here's the time lapse in this jump. The message was
stuck on a routing server in Indonesia.

TF>> Received: from ms10.hinet.net by ho.bhakti.co.id with SMTP
TF>> (MDaemon.v2.8.6.0e.R) for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24
TF>> Apr 2000 09:55:57 +0700

TF>> Received: from 00284 ([210.242.5.6]) by ms10.hinet.net
TF>> (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA14275 for
TF>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:49:15 +0800
TF>> (CST)

> I had a trunaround time of roughly 5 hours on this message. If I am
> the only one, then it must be my server and it is time to change ISP.
> Can anybody confirm the long turnaround time or not?

We don't have too :-) it's clearly visible in the headers.

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Server turnaround time (was: Re: UTF encoding)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Syafril,

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:47:25 +0800GMT (24/04/2000, 10:47 +0800GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> Received: from ns2.dutaint.com [203.130.233.13] by in1.prserv.net id 
956560460.184186-1 ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:14:25 +
TF> Received: from ho.bhakti.co.id by thebat.dutaint.com with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.3.R) 
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:06:36 +0700
TF> Received: from ms10.hinet.net by ho.bhakti.co.id with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.6.0e.R) 
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:55:57 +0700
TF> Received: from 00284 ([210.242.5.6]) by ms10.hinet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id 
KAA14275 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:49:15 +0800 (CST)
TF> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:47:25 +0800
TF> From: Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.41) Personal
TF> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF> Organization: E-mailaholics International
TF> X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
TF> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> To: "Alexander V. Kiselev on TBBETA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> Subject: Re: UTF encoding
TF> In-reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TF> Mime-Version: 1.0
TF> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
TF> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
TF> X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF> X-Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF> X-MDRcpt-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[...]

I had a trunaround time of roughly 5 hours on this message. If I am
the only one, then it must be my server and it is time to change ISP.
Can anybody confirm the long turnaround time or not?

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Re[2]: UTF encoding (was:Re: 1.42 Beta/19 is now available)

[tracer]

Hello

TF>> Chinese
TF>> characters starting after the third "f", but the very last character
TF>> is an lower-case o-umlaut. Obviously the translation worked in the
TF>> attachment but not in the message body. Hmmm.

Thomas I send you an email I received in Thai off list which seems to
confirm this but note I didnt follow the thread as I am flooded with
work and problems...

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Re: UTF encoding

[tracer]

Hello Thomas Fernandez,
On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:06:07 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, April 24, 2000, 3:06:07 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Thomas Fernandez wrote:


> Hallo tracer,

> thanks for the HTML attachment in Thai, but it displayed as Chinese
> characters. I assume the reason is that there is no header in your
> message saying:

> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="utf-8"

Since the last updates I see no utf-8 anywhere (unless I look in the
wrong place)
What I send shows Thai in the html, but the normal garbage in the text

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Re[3]: UTF encoding

[tracer]

Hello SyP,
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:15:26 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Monday, April 24, 2000, 4:15:26 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
SyP wrote:


> Hello The Bat! beta users and developers,

> Alexander V. Kiselev wrote at 4/23/2000, 10:46 PM

AVK>> Hi there!

AVK>> On 24 Apr 00, at 4:06, Thomas Fernandez wrote
AVK>> about "UTF encoding":

>>> thanks for the HTML attachment in Thai, but it displayed as Chinese
>>> characters. I assume the reason is that there is no header in your
>>> message saying:
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>> charset="utf-8"

> Pardon me?
> I lost the thread a bit.

> IIRC, Thomas got from me one UTF-7 + one UTF-8 messages, which
> displayed but without high-characters. Alexander sent him a non-UTF
> encoded HTML attachment, which was in Thai but displayed in Chinese.

No, I send Thomas one in Thai which had been send to ME by a friend of
the wife in Germany.
Received here all I see in the email is the normal character mess but
HTML part is readable...

> And UTF-encoded HTML attachments still display raw and garbled text.
> (in my experience toying with Lookout)

> Could I follow you?


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Re: UTF encoding

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Alexander,

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 02:24:21 +0400GMT (24/04/2000, 06:24 +0800GMT),
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

>> Pardon me?
>> I lost the thread a bit.
>> 
>> IIRC, Thomas got from me one UTF-7 + one UTF-8 messages, which
>> displayed but without high-characters. Alexander sent him a non-UTF
>> encoded HTML attachment, which was in Thai but displayed in Chinese.

AVK> I did send him absolutely nothing, he received as far as I could understand 
AVK> the message in UTF (Thai) from somewhere else (i.e. not from me)

Yes; tracer was so kind.

AVK> Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-7

AVK> should have been in the subheaders of the respective part.

I didn't see anything about charset in any header or subheader; I
wrongly assumed the charset should be in the same line as the
content-type.

Anyway, could someone be so kind as to send me a UTF-encoded plain
text message in Thai? It should be a real sentence not just hitting
some keys, so I can see whether the letters, tone markers, maha-nakart
etc display correctly.

It didn't work with a Thai-encoded attachment as is clear now.

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Re: UTF encoding

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Alexander,

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 02:24:21 +0400GMT (24/04/2000, 06:24 +0800GMT),
Alexander V. Kiselev wrote:

>> IIRC, Thomas got from me one UTF-7 + one UTF-8 messages, which
>> displayed but without high-characters. Alexander sent him a non-UTF
>> encoded HTML attachment, which was in Thai but displayed in Chinese.

AVK> I did send him absolutely nothing, he received as far as I could understand 
AVK> the message in UTF (Thai) from somewhere else (i.e. not from me)

Correct; tracer was so kind.

AVK> Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-7

AVK> should have been in the subheaders of the respective part.

I didn't see anything about charset in any header or subheader; I
(wrongly) assumed the charset should be in the same line as the
content-type.

Anyway, could someone be so kind as to send me a UTF-encoded plain
text message in Thai? It should be a real sentence not just hitting
some keys, so I can see whether the letters, tone markers, maha-nakart
etc display correctly.

It didn't work with a Thai-encoded attachment as is clear now.

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