Re[2]: NFS: Minor UI bug
Hello all, Monday, August 23, 2004, MAU wrote: Yes, it's definitely a font scaling problem. I'm also using large fonts. I switched to small fonts and I can then see both OK and Help buttons. But this only happens in TB's NFS Sorting Office and no problem in any other application I use. So, we must consider this a bug, don't you think? I have added this bug into BT some days ago, please confirm it. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003432 -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS Bug: Filters moved-in as sub-filter not sticky between sessions
Hello MAU, Monday, August 23, 2004, 11:13 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm moving-in some filters as sub-filters and if I exit and start TB the changes (the moved-in filters) have not been saved. It looks like the new setup is not saved if the only change is some filters moved-in as sub-filters. Confirmed. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS Bug: YES as a sub-filter but NO as a filter
Hello MAU, Monday, August 23, 2004, 11:25 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TB! Message Filter beginFilter UID: [6FBF6861.01C48838.255F0232.619556FE] Name: Lista\20SIG Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MoveMessage folder \5C\5CMAU\5CMailing\20Lists\5CRed\20Iris\5CSIG endFilter If I use it as a filter, the log shows that some messages have produced a match but the move action is not carried out Can't confirm. -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: Sub-filters not reported by Test filter option
Hallo MAU, On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 01:15:53 +0200GMT (24-8-2004, 1:15 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M However, if I use the Test filter option on an exiting message in one M of the lists folders, let's say TBBeta, only the TB_List filter is M reported but not the TBBeta sub-filter. Confirmed. -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Beta6 ERROR - Dotes in Header
Dear Stuart, -- Montag, 23. August 2004, 20:29:39: From the screenshot you sent. :) EC I'm not using any different background colors for the msg. Not for the message, but for the message list. When you look at your color groups you see two selections under Normal and two under Unread. The first one is the font color and the second is the background color. Oh you got this wrong. The red background I added with Photoshop to highlit where the mistakes are. The dark bar is my cursor position. so nothing with background colors - sorry ;( EC Are you spying on my Computer? ;) No, but I could make really good money if I could do that. ;) I'm glade you can't make money out of it. ;) -- best regards www.EddieCastelli.com Eddie :ec: on Tour Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! UI Bug in the Sorting Office
Some time around 08/23/2004 06:22:50, I think I heard Roelof Otten say: Hallo DZ-Jay, On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 06:11:06 -0400GMT (23-8-2004, 12:11 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DJ So you mean that if I decide not to upgrade to the latest version DJ I won't get bug fixes for mine, even though I paid for it? What are you suggesting then? That Ritlabs keeps fixing bugs in 2.00 for users who don't want 2.10 That they continue releasing fixes for 2.10 for those who don't want 2.12 To continue releasing fixes for 2.12 for those who don't like the NFS So you mean to tell me that, as opposed to every other software development cycle on the planet, every point update of TB! is a completely new product, with re-engineered parts and brand new algorithms? This means that a change from, say, 2.11 to 2.12 would not necessarily fix problems with the previous version, but introduce an entire new code base, and with it (possibly) all new bugs and pitfalls? You see in any other software, if I feel comfortable with version X, I can choose not to upgrade to version X + 1, but considering that I paid money for version X, the developer feels compelled to offer, at the very least, bug fixes and security patches as X.y. However, Ritlabs has decided -- according to what I infer from your comments and from its versioning techniques, that there will be *no* version X + 1, but that every single new product cycle will be X.xyz point upgrade, forcing everyone to try a a new and unproven system and completely obsoleting a tried and true version -- without offering any sort of maintenance to its loyal (yet paying!) customers. Please let it be not so. Remember that every fix needs to be tested on both an alpha and a beta forum, that takes resources that are hard to get. Most beta testers like to use the latest features and therefore won't go testing old versions with minor bugfixes. Poor beta testers. What about the responsibilities from a trusted company that takes money from its customers? I don't think that it's very likely to happen that Ritlabs is gpoing to maintain multiple series of v2. You didn't pay for fixes, you get the right to use the latest v2 release. I didn't pay for fixes? I'm sorry, I thought that the latest v2 release would include fixes to my current version 2, and expected that any new codebase would be version 3. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy with TB! so far, and I have been a loyal user for some time and even recommended it to friends and family. However, I feel alarmed that I will be forced to a completely new product just because I would like certain problems fixed with my current one. A new filtering system, for example, as mentioned by the previous post, does not sound like a bug fix to our current system, but like an overhaul of it. dZ. Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Installation defaults
Hello Alexy I do wish you would stop moving stuff about in terms of installation config folders. I installed .5.11 by copying over the .5.10 and nothing was working. I then realised that the paths etc had changed. I repointed Bayesit to my old database and stuff started working again. I've now got copies of files all over the shop. What is the recommended path / folder configuration for Bayesit please. -- regards, Graham Using The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/6 assisted by BayesIt! 0.5.11 under Windows XP 5.1 (Build 2600, Service Pack 1) -- Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Merck Co., Inc. (One Merck Drive, Whitehouse Station, New Jersey, USA 08889), and/or its affiliates (which may be known outside the United States as Merck Frosst, Merck Sharp Dohme or MSD and in Japan, as Banyu) that may be confidential, proprietary copyrighted and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity named on this message. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and then delete it from your system. -- Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! UI Bug in the Sorting Office
Hallo DZ-Jay, On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:52:10 -0400GMT (24-8-2004, 10:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: DJ So you mean that if I decide not to upgrade to the latest version DJ I won't get bug fixes for mine, even though I paid for it? DJ So you mean to tell me that, as opposed to every other software DJ development cycle on the planet, every point update of TB! is a DJ completely new product, with re-engineered parts and brand new DJ algorithms? This means that a change from, say, 2.11 to 2.12 would DJ not necessarily fix problems with the previous version, but DJ introduce an entire new code base, and with it (possibly) all new DJ bugs and pitfalls? Wait a minute. I didn't say that. I asked whether you were suggesting something like that. You clearly stated that you didn't want to upgrade to the latest version (2.13 or higher), but wanted fixes for yours (2.12) I merely tried to make it clear why that was unlikely to happen. You were complaining about a bug in the sorting office and Maurice told you that it wasn't likely to be fixed, because in the current beta cycle the sorting office is being replaced by something new (and better when it's ready) -- Groetjes, Roelof The Bat! 2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Disclaimer: Any opinion stated in this message is not necessarily shared by my budgies or rabbits. Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! UI Bug in the Sorting Office
Some time around 08/24/2004 04:55:37, I think I heard George M. Menegakis say: Ritlabs are famous for the point releases. The version x.xx may have major new functionality over x.x(x-1). I don't know about you but I love RIT guys for this. New functionality is ok, in fact, its great! I really love Virtual Folders and some of the other new features introduced in this past versions. But please understand my point that entire re-designs of currently available features are not new features. For example, adding VF: good; replacing real folders with VF: not so good, as it would force *everyone* into a new paradigm to which they might not be ready or might not agree with. This would be a candidate for a new product, say, TB! v3.0 - Introducing a new way to handle your mail, all VF!!!, no more pesky physical folders. Those who want that can upgrade, those who actually like 2.x should be able to keep it. This is only an example. I remember that we, the beta crowd, convinced Ritlabs to rename 1.54 to 1.6 because it had too many new features. There comes a point when new functionality crosses the boundary between just a new bell or whistle and a whole new product cycle. Taken, this boundary is relative and highly subjective, but nevertheless should be considered. Anyway, I think that Ritlabs should take care about the guys using version 1.xx by producing service releases for a reasonable period of time. I hope so. At least for a reasonable period of time, is all I ask :) Thanx, dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS Bug: Filters moved-in as sub-filter not sticky between sessions
Hello Boris, I'm moving-in some filters as sub-filters and if I exit and start TB the changes (the moved-in filters) have not been saved. It looks like the new setup is not saved if the only change is some filters moved-in as sub-filters. Confirmed. Thanks. Logged in BT as: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003441 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v2.13 Lucky Beta/7 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! UI Bug in the Sorting Office
Some time around 08/24/2004 05:05:58, I think I heard Roelof Otten say: You were complaining about a bug in the sorting office and Maurice told you that it wasn't likely to be fixed, because in the current beta cycle the sorting office is being replaced by something new (and better when it's ready) But doesn't a full replacement to a currently available feature include an entire new codebase? Then this proves my point that point upgrades are new products, not maintenance upgrades for current ones, like every other software. -dZ. -- Powered by The Bat! v.2.12.00, Hindered by MS Windows 2000 v.5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 2.13 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Some minor Bugs in NFS
Hello list,
UI Bug: Only 1. Subfilter is shown when opening NFS
Create a filter with 2 subfilters.
Close NFS
Open NFS: Now you can only se the filter with the first subfilter (but
not the second one).
See 01.gif
Re-Filter ignores filter with hotkeys
If a filter has a hotkey it's not executed by Refilter messages.
BTW: It would be greate if the NFS had the option This rule is
executed only by pressing the hotkey like the OFS had.
Read filter doesn't work
Filter:
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [86F8A966.01C489B2.4EC6AF90.00F031D5]
Name: Test\20Read
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`21\0D\0A}
Park
endFilter
But if a mark a message as unread, and read it, the message isn't
parked.
Confirmations?
--
Regards,
Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de
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