Re: BayesIt 0.6.4
Bill McCarthy wrotes on 19/09/2004 at 09:14:41 +1100 subject BayesIt 0.6.4 : *** if you used previous (0.6.3 and below) version it is recommended to delete all .idx files in base folder which in the filter's working folder. done, deleted all *.idx files Hmm, if I read the instructions correctly, you weren't supposed to delete the one in the transact folder. in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] this question was already written by Bill McCarthy, but no answer... I will try out this evening to dot deleting the one in transact folder (I have restored a backup from the hole TB! folder). If this not helps, I will delete the hole content of bayesIt folder and train the bases again (I have conserved my hole SPAM for such a case ;) ) TheBat! is consuming 100% CPU for half an hour. I have shut it down, restart TB!, still 100%CPU Not here. When I suspend Boinc (the control shell for [EMAIL PROTECTED]), my CPU usage stabilizes at less than 5% with TB! running and 0.6.4 enabled. If it makes a difference, I'm only using pop3. but here very real 100% for the process Thebat.exe :( -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.0.0.15 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Sound From Where?
Hello Bill, Why am I getting sound? I thought my scheme was working fine in early versions of TB!. Is this a bug or a feature? I think you can say it is a feature and, as far as I can recall, it has always been like that. If you have Account sound enable, any message getting into Inbox will trigger the sound. And _all_ incoming messages do go through Inbox even if they are filtered to a different folder. If it's a feature then I need to change my account setting to Disable sounds and change all folders using Account settings to Use Own Sound... Yeap, that's right. That's what I had to do a long time ago. However, in my case I only have a sound enabled in a few important folders. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.0.15 Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RE:Sound From Where?
Hello MAU, Sunday, September 19, 2004, 10:19:37 AM, you wrote: Why am I getting sound? I thought my scheme was working fine in early versions of TB!. Is this a bug or a feature? I think you can say it is a feature and, as far as I can recall, it has always been like that. yup, Microsoft calls such things always 'features', too! -- regards, :eu-flag3: :de-bw: :safaribears: If the early bird gets the worm, then what incentive do worms have to wake up early? Death? Using The Bat! v3.0.0.15, Opera v7.54.3865 on Win.XP.5.1.2600.SP1 * PGP key available on request: send mail with subject 'PGP key request' pgpRo4zph06Ic.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS feature wish, selective refiltering
On Saturday, September 18, 2004, 19:51, Boris Anders wrote: Comments? You mean something like attached? Yes, but I'd rather like tick boxes like in for example the maintenance center. Not being able to select more then one filter at a time would make the feature a lot less powerful. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.0.14 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: OT: Test
Hello Clive, Monday, September 6, 2004, 5:00:38 PM, you wrote: Hello Lars, Monday, September 6, 2004, 9:56:02 AM, you wrote: Last one, promised Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course Thank you for your email. It will be actioned in due course -- Best regards, Clivemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Filter problem with IMAP account
I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and finally move these messages to another folder. When I use this filter with IMAP provider1 the filter always fails. The result is that these messages stay in the Inbox and don't have the appropriate color. When I invoke the filter manually from the filter properties dialog this works fine !! When I use the same filter with my IMAP provider2 account it works without any problems. That's strange right ? Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong ? -- Michael TheBat! 3.0.0.15 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter problem with IMAP account
mml, On 19-09-2004 14:02, you [mmd] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: mmd I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and mmd finally move these messages to another folder. Each time I assign a colour group to an IMAP message, that colour group is lost on moving the message. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.0.0.15 /thebat version os Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 1/os Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X-Mailer Problems
Hi Alexander, On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 05:42:27 +0600 (7:42 PM here), Alexander Leschinsky [AL] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: KC I'm wondering if my sending messages directly through my Advanced KC Direct Remailer SMTP Server, rather than going through my ISP KC might be triggering a spam flag. AL In this case ADR was single bad boy - it was classified as AL spamware That's too bad, as I am no spammer and just sending normal e-mail. KC Perhaps the combination of The Bat! header plus mail not coming KC from a registered source is the culprit. AL No. Combination of X-Mailer and MailMan's added message-part and AL boundary. I think, batters have to ask Justin Mason (SA creator) AL improve FORGED_* rule and additional check of presence any List-* AL rules I suppose that is probably the only way to get things changed. I'd rather not have to disable the X-Mailer header. I would think its more of a corporate issue as TB is erroneously being categorized as Spamware, possibly affecting sales. -- Kevin Coates Dewitt, NY USA Using TB! v3.0.0.15 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 (see kludges for my pgp key) pgpgZAU7lZTm0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter problem with IMAP account
Mml, [M] wrote: I filter my Inbox for a particular email adress, assign a color group and finally move these messages to another folder. When I use this filter with IMAP provider1 the filter always fails. The result is that these messages stay in the Inbox and don't have the appropriate color. When I invoke the filter manually from the filter properties dialog this works fine !! When I use the same filter with my IMAP provider2 account it works without any problems. That's strange right ? Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong ? This is an interesting insight. I have only one IMAP provider and that's myself. I've been noting that my Inbox filters work when they feel like. Some seem to work consistently, while others don't. Both are filters that look for header string matches. In fact, the one that often doesn't work at all is one that matches all messages not yet already filtered (it's the last filter in the filter set). I've never thought that the filter could be working differently depending on the provider and that this could be a factor in the existence of this annoying problem. All I can say is that you're certainly not alone with this problem and that it isn't your fault or anything you're doing wrong. It's just TB! IMAP and we have to wait for a fix if we're up to waiting. Does your provider allow for server side filtering? Many providers allow for webmail control of IMAP accounts. These webmail interfaces often allow for filtering. You could setup filters there and then let TB!'s broken filtering do as little as possible. This is my current system of dealing with things. I'd go nuts and run if I had to filter all my IMAP mail with TB!. -- -= Allie =- . Imagination is more important than knowledge - Einstein ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.15 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filter problem with IMAP account
Peter Fjelsten, [PF] wrote: Each time I assign a colour group to an IMAP message, that colour group is lost on moving the message. This isn't surprising since moving the message moves the message to another IMAP folder on the server. TB! sync's with this IMAP folder which holds no information about colour group assignment, a purely local feature for TB!. As a result, there is no colour group assignment when you check the message in the other folder. You may propose then that RL implements a system when the colour group is locally reassigned when the message is moved. I'd wonder why bother since it really isn't worth the hassle. If you fire up another TB! client on another machine and access the IMAP account, all colour groups assigned via the initial TB! installation will not be seen. What's the point then of using an attribute that doesn't carry across to other IMAP clients? If you use a single client, then why use IMAP then? TB! needs to implement the added message attributes that are standard for the IMAP protocol, so that when you label the message, ThunderBird will show it, Mulberry will show it, and last but not least, your other TB! installations at other locations will show it. I'd personally disagree with the proposal that they commit efforts at making colour groups work better when it's only local. -- -= Allie =- . It's smart to pick your friends, but not to pieces. ___ IMAP Client: The Bat! v3.0.0.15 | SquirrelMail WebMail IMAP Server: Mdaemon Pro | OS: Windows XP Pro (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS feature wish, selective refiltering
Hello Marcus, Sunday, September 19, 2004, 12:06 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Comments? You mean something like attached? Yes, but I'd rather like tick boxes like in for example the maintenance center. Not being able to select more then one filter at a time would make the feature a lot less powerful. Agree totally, but it was to much work too fake the boxes :-). -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bayes Filter 1.5.4 - Junk Folder Issue
On Sunday, September 19, 2004, at 20:52:40 [UTC+0100] (Sunday, September 19, 2004 21:52 my local time) Simon Fincham wrote: If you un-tick the option for the Account Specific or Communal Junk Folder to display items in the Ticker - the folder becomes a 'Normal' folder when The Bat is next started, which causes a new 'Junk Folder' to be created. Can anyone confirm? Yes, I can confirm. This was observed not only by me, but by other users. Inbox folder was also duplicated in similar manner. However, I had such curiosity with BayesIt! 0.6.3 and 0.6.4. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.0.0.15 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 6.5.0) Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bayes Filter 1.5.4 - Junk Folder Issue
Simon Fincham, on Sonntag, 19. September 2004 21:52 you wrote: Hello TBBeta, I am unable to work with Bayesit [crashes immediately.. or causes The Bat to hang]. I am getting good results with Bayes Filter, however, I have found the following to be true -: If you un-tick the option for the Account Specific or Communal Junk Folder to display items in the Ticker - the folder becomes a 'Normal' folder when The Bat is next started, which causes a new 'Junk Folder' to be created. Can anyone confirm? Confirmed! Same here. -- Michael TheBat! 3.0.0.15 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: X-Mailer Problems
On Thu 16-Sep-04 2:01am -0400, Thorvald Neumann wrote: Since v3 appeared in a hurry, it seems the X-Mailer setting is enabled as a default option. Better yet, I wish Ritlabs would finally just change the Editor attribute to yes. In this group, I'd like it to read: The Bat! 3.0.0.15 pro - pop3 - xp pro sp2 and setting it empty should leave it off completely. We shouldn't have to use 3rd party software to do this - just one more thing to go wrong. -- Best regards, Bill Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BayesIt 0.6.5
Hello Peter, try to remove the plugin and to directly add it again - and please report what happens. the same here. Still 100% cpu usage, also with removing and adding no change - if I use BayesIt v0.5.11 the CPU usage is ~18%. Tested with: Win XP/SP1 - P4 2,4MHz 1.0 GB RAM It seems as if it would be a XP problem, under w2k the CPU usage is ~7%. Tested with: Win2000/SP4 - P3 233MHz 192 MB RAM TB! 2.12.04 / BayesIt v0.6.5 TB! 3.00.15 / BayesIt v0.6.5 ps. no more AVs on right click with the version v2.12.04. -- best regards Miroslav BAT-MAIL.DE.VU - http://bat-mail.de.vu News-Ticker: http://thebat.orgavision.de/bat-mail.xml Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters (don't do what they say on the tin)
Dear David, @19-Sep-2004, 20:45 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: DE I have top level filters that will catch all messages and also DE have continue filtering matched. Oh. That's not the best way to do it. At all. DE Lets go back to the filters. DE Frends ...:- Top level, match all, continue filtering DE Marck D Pearlstone ..:- 2nd Level, match to Marck as sender, move to 'Marck' DE Lists :- Top level, match all, continue filtering DE TB UDL ..:- 2nd Level, match to TBUDL as recipient, move to 'UDL' DE SPAM .:- Top level, match all, continue filtering When I tried that, it ended up duplicating messages, placing copies in folders for every rule that matched. Results are certainly unpredictable. I have this structure and it works right every time: Lists.. : top level, match address group lists TB lists : 2nd level, Match Reply header thebat.dutaint.com TBUDL : 3rd level, Match Reply header, move to folder TBBETA : 3rd level, Match Reply header, move to folder ...: 3rd level, Match Reply header, move to folder Specific List 1 : 2nd level, Match as Reply header, move to folder Specific List 2 : 2nd level, Match as Reply header, move to folder Specific List 3 : 2nd level, Match as Reply header, move to folder Specific List 4 : 2nd level, Match as Reply header, move to folder Friends : top level, match address group friends Specific Friend 1 : 2nd level, Match as sender, move to folder Specific Friend 2 : 2nd level, Match as sender, move to folder Specific Friend 3 : 2nd level, Match as sender, move to folder End stop : 2nd level, move to Friends container folder DE So I have been lead to believe that the last move will be the DE action that is carried out. All applicable actions will be carried out. And TB is left confused. DE So the message should end up in UDL not Marck. I think there's no guarantee about where messages will end up nor how many of them :-). ... snip -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.0.0.15 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 ' pgpOMGxaaJQQy.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BayesIt 0.6.5
On Sun 19-Sep-04 1:06pm -0400, Alexey N. Vinogradov wrote: Version 0.6.5 (bugfix) - PCRE funcions weren't handled correctly due to wrong calling convention Rexexd is now working fine. The Tree is a very nice tool. This weekend's shot, but next weekend I'll test more complex regex with it. -- Best regards, Bill Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: delay for my messages to appear
Hæ! Sunday, September 19, 2004, 21:46, David Elliott wrote: I have seen reply's before I have seen my messages. Confirmed, too. :) -- Kveðja! Thorvald Neumann | http://www.aesir.de/ [The Bat! v3.0.0.15 (without BayesIt) PopFile on Windows 2000 Service Pack 4] Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Filters (don't do what they say on the tin)
On Sunday, September 19, 2004, 22:20, Marck D Pearlstone wrote: DE So I have been lead to believe that the last move will be the DE action that is carried out. All applicable actions will be carried out. And TB is left confused. DE So the message should end up in UDL not Marck. I think there's no guarantee about where messages will end up nor how many of them :-). According to what 9val said about the NFS, David's filters should work and the message should end up in UDL. Anything else is buggy. However, filters are not supposed to be constructed that way. Even if it should work, it's like begging for trouble. A lot of things could go wrong on the way, and apparently does now and then. David has definitely stumbled across a bug, but it might be a hard one to track down. If it is, I am not sure I would want Ritlabs to spend to much time on this, there are other more serious problems to deal with. David, if I were you, I would reconstruct my filter to match the intention of the NFS. Go for address group filtering, like both Marck and I have suggested. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v3.0.0.14 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB doesn't get all messages from server
Hello Frank, Sunday, September 19, 2004, 1:16:49 PM, you wrote: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FD I'm using MDaemon as the local mailserver on my LAN; there are 20 FD messages waiting but TB get's only a few of them. Everything works fine FD with Thunderbird or Outlook. I think it has to do with filters. In the problem account disable each filter one at a time, when all messages download you have found the right one to rebuild. -- Best regards, Johnmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.0.0.15, Under Windows XP 51 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BayesIt 0.6.5
Hello, Sunday, September 19, 2004, 9:21:49 PM, you wrote: PH TB and Bayesit were using about 52% of my CPU power. After removing the PH plugin and then directly adding it again, they were using 2% to 5%! Confirmed - the same on my computer. PH Strange, isn't it? For me not :) But this is very frustrating behaviour. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.0.0.15, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 2 -- Portal INTERIA.PL zaprasza... http://link.interia.pl/f17cb Current beta is 3.00.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
