Re: Major bug? in MicroEd mail display
Vili wrote on 10/10/2005 at 12:38:24 +1100 subject Major bug? in MicroEd mail display : So, open a mail in a new window. Now make the window much narrower, so the text will be wrapped. Now Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C so, copy it to the clipboard. Now, copy (Ctrl+V) into any text editor. At me, the text is re-wrapped based on the narrow window settings. Example it was originally wrapped at 70 char, not it is at 20... Is it normal, bug, or I am doing something wrong? (I have beta07 at this machine, but it exists at beta11, I guess, too.) This is a very old bug I reported already in Feb 2004: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=2527 It is right that PGP verification is normally done by internal support/plugin, but I choose this example for illustration only. In daily work it is not convenient that all text showed in plain text viewer is wrapped as displayed on screen during copy to clipboard. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.60.07 and Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.4 on Windows 2000 ___ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - Jetzt mit 1GB Speicher kostenlos - Hier anmelden: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Offsite Images
Hello tbbeta, Offsite images are still a wish in the ritlabs bugtracker: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=1780 Please sign the wish too! I know several TheBat! users who would like to see this implemented who only use the programm. They don't beta test. I myself would very much like to see this implemented. -- Best regards, David The Bat! 3.61.09 Echo (Beta), Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
Dimitry, On 08-10-2005 19:22, you [DA] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyway, I do not think this is an issue as TB also behaved like this on Mailmax IMAP - and sometimes also on Exchange/IMAP. I still get hanging connections sometimes. They just sit there and I usually kill the hanging task before TB snaps out of it, but I suppose the task can hang for more than 15 mins. DA I just choose Abort All Tasks, and then Alt-F2 again, which most of DA the times wakes up the process again. If not, The Bat needs to be DA restarted. I asked them which IMAP server they use (see sig!). The problem with Abort All Tasks is that if you are in process of saving drafts remotely, they are never saved and your composed message is lost! I usually just delete the first of the connections and TB usually waked up again. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
Dimitry, On 08-10-2005 01:40, you [DA] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [*] IMAP :changes in request queue DA Don't know what you changed, but IMAP has become abysmally slow. It does seem slower but on the other hand I think it's better at actually reserving one connection for message download? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello. GM Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote: ZW Unfortunately, I cannot activate any type of editor different than ZW my default (here: MicroEd). I tried this macro in Quick Templates ZW and in ordinary ones - it changed nothing. GM It seems to work OK for me in an address book template for new GM messages. The window opens with the specified editor, though the GM status bar indicates the default (MicroEd) until I move focus to the GM message body area. GM It doesn't appear to work in a QT. confirmed. bug in status bar. -- Best regards, Den V. Yafyasov. The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 LANGUAGE=AM Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Colour Groups
Hello MAU, Logged BT report https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5177 Problem has just showed up today. This time I will not restart TB to see if it somehow clears by itself. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
Hi all, I'm using a local trash folder and for the last several betas, the 'Empty Trash on Exit' option doesn't work. I have to manually empty my trash folder. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply. pgpdL3APOumcu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Major bug? in MicroEd mail display
Hallo Vili, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:38:24 +0200GMT (10-10-2005, 3:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V So, open a mail in a new window. Now make the window much narrower, so V the text will be wrapped. Now Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C so, copy it to the V clipboard. Now, copy (Ctrl+V) into any text editor. At me, the text is V re-wrapped based on the narrow window settings. Example it was V originally wrapped at 70 char, not it is at 20... Confirmed for plain text viewer. Not confirmed for RTV. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, Vacancy. (I came, I saw, I managed to find a room.) The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqxGC8I8BBR.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
Peter Fjelsten wrote: The problem with Abort All Tasks is that if you are in process of saving drafts remotely, they are never saved and your composed message is lost! Indeed, therefore I never use remote drafts. Too risky... I usually just delete the first of the connections and TB usually waked up again. This never works for me, the rest of the jobs in the queue will just stay there and hang too. Killing them all, disconnecting and reconnecting to the IMAP server usually works. But even that sometimes doesn't help, and then I have to restart The Bat completely. (Anyway, this point is becoming a bit moot for me, as I've switched to Thunderbird.) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
Dimitry, On 10-10-2005 13:59, you [DA] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DA Peter Fjelsten wrote: The problem with Abort All Tasks is that if you are in process of saving drafts remotely, they are never saved and your composed message is lost! DA Indeed, therefore I never use remote drafts. Too risky... I want to use it. Period. That's the point of IMAP. Keep everything on the server. I usually just delete the first of the connections and TB usually waked up again. DA This never works for me, the rest of the jobs in the queue will just DA stay there and hang too. It works for me in more than - say - 75% of the cases. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
The problem with Abort All Tasks is that if you are in process of saving drafts remotely, they are never saved and your composed message is lost! DA Indeed, therefore I never use remote drafts. Too risky... I want to use it. Period. That's the point of IMAP. Keep everything on the server. I agree! I want all IMAP working correctly, PERIOD, whoops, sorry for shouting. -- Best regards, John Thomas Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
Peter Fjelsten wrote: Indeed, therefore I never use remote drafts. Too risky... I want to use it. Period. That's the point of IMAP. Keep everything on the server. Yes, I definitely agree with that. But the mail client should NEVER throw anything away that you've painstakingly typed, if it can't connect to its server for whatever reason. It should at least save it in some temporary backup store (the local outbox) whenever such an error occurs. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
Dimitry, On 10-10-2005 14:26, you [DA] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DA Yes, I definitely agree with that. But the mail client should NEVER DA throw anything away that you've painstakingly typed, if it can't DA connect to its server for whatever reason. It should at least save DA it in some temporary backup store (the local outbox) whenever such DA an error occurs. Actually, that's not a bad idea. Ritlabs - what do you say, could you save drafts locally as a backup if remote outbox is being used? -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: 3.61.11 - still hanging connections + drafts problem
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:26:04 +0200, Dimitry Andric [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Yes, I definitely agree with that. But the mail client should NEVER throw anything away that you've painstakingly typed, if it can't connect to its server for whatever reason. It should at least save it in some temporary backup store (the local outbox) whenever such an error occurs. I strongly agree with this. I don't save as draft to a server side Outbox because of this issue. But I agree that this sort of reliability issue should be given the priority it deserves. What forces migration in very short order is a lack of reliability and poor ability to do simple operations with the reasonable speed. -- -= Curtis =- RSA Key: http://rsakey.aimlink.name Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
Hello Curtis, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:31:15 -0500GMT Curtis wrote: C I'm using a local trash folder and for the last several betas, the C 'Empty Trash on Exit' option doesn't work. I have to manually empty my C trash folder. cannot confirm, here the trash folder empties each time on close TB. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:03:15 +0200, Feli Wilcke [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: cannot confirm, here the trash folder empties each time on close TB. Are you using server side trash or local trash. My problem occurs with using local trash. -- -= Curtis =- RSA Key: http://rsakey.aimlink.name Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
Hello Curtis, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:07:22 -0500GMT Curtis wrote: C On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:03:15 +0200, Feli Wilcke C [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: cannot confirm, here the trash folder empties each time on close TB. C Are you using server side trash or local trash. My problem occurs with C using local trash. local trash folder. Server side trash folder is set to empty after 3 days (and is only used if I am using the web interface) -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 08:18 AM, Feli Wilcke wrote: C Are you using server side trash or local trash. My problem occurs with C using local trash. local trash folder. Server side trash folder is set to empty after 3 days (and is only used if I am using the web interface) Ok. Yet another instance of the wide variation in user experience. Ah well. I'll just continue then. Not a show-stopper for me anyway, and 'que sera sera'. -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Some nonsense now and then is relished by the wisest men pgp5iJfJaYGvD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, 10:28:53 AM, Curtis wrote: C Are you using server side trash or local trash. My problem occurs C with using local trash. local trash folder. Server side trash folder is set to empty after 3 days (and is only used if I am using the web interface) Just curious, why does one use a trash folder at all? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Just curious, why does one use a trash folder at all? With TB!? Just for that odd occasion that I delete a message I didn't intend to delete. I get trigger happy at times, especially with the Inbox (unfiltered mail) that contains a lot of messages that I have no interest in keeping. -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Don't talk unless you can improve the silence. pgpYFD1N6ubDK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, 11:04:17 AM, Curtis wrote: Just curious, why does one use a trash folder at all? With TB!? Just for that odd occasion that I delete a message I didn't intend to delete. I get trigger happy at times, especially with the Inbox (unfiltered mail) that contains a lot of messages that I have no interest in keeping. When I catch myself, I have been going to 'browse deleted messages' but I suppose your way is better because gives one little longer in the session to notice the error. Best would be if messages got a strike over and stayed in folder, as in Mulberry, but would take lots more than that to make me want to tolerate the interface. (I agree very much with your assessment of that in earlier message today) -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 11:38 AM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: When I catch myself, I have been going to 'browse deleted messages' but I suppose your way is better because gives one little longer in the session to notice the error. I also compress on exiting the folder. Best would be if messages got a strike over and stayed in folder, as in Mulberry, but would take lots more than that to make me want to tolerate the interface. (I agree very much with your assessment of that in earlier message today) I agree with the Mulberry method and I'd not use a Trash folder if it were available to me. -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...I do a lot of thinking in the john. Says a lot for my thoughts. pgpFk6qWevjcf.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
A Few Questions
I'm fairly new to The Bat! (I'm testing it for possible use after the demise of Mulberry) and I have a couple of questions: 1. In the IMAP Fine-Tune dialog, what does 'Auto-filtering' mean? I dug around the help file and the FAQ but came up with nothing. 2. Is there any way to make PGP/MIME always stay on? It has three options (Auto, On, Off) but I can't find a way to make them stick. I've tried this with the last stable release and with the 3.61.11 beta. Thanks! -- :R. Hammerdog is a dog made of hammers. Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.11: Strange symbols in Message List
Hi Denis, on Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:21:13 +0300GMT (10.10.2005, 17:21 +0200GMT here), you wrote: DR There are strange symbols alighted in Message List. Strangely enough DR some messages are showing normally, and some are not. TB! v3.61.10 DR showed all messages normally. Can someone confirm this? Yes, I can. I sometimes see these squares at the end of some header information. I suspect it has something to do with 8bit characters in the headers. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE disabled AMD Athlon 2200+ at 1794 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A Few Questions
Randy, On 10-10-2005 20:07, you [R] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: R 1. In the IMAP Fine-Tune dialog, what does 'Auto-filtering' mean? I R dug around the help file and the FAQ but came up with nothing. This will do so filters are applied without selecting the folder in question, i.e. in the background. R 2. Is there any way to make PGP/MIME always stay on? It has three R options (Auto, On, Off) but I can't find a way to make them stick. I have no idea. R -- :R. You sig delimiter is broken. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat versionextras MyGate, AVG /extras env. 4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UWIMAP) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 /os Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
I.F.P.O Error
Hello TBBETA, With certain message I keep getting this error, an Invalid Floating If I leave the message in view the errors keep recurring at 8 to 10 second intervals. Anyone seen this before? http://www.theboomclan.com/ifpo.png I can click OK and they go away for 8 to 10 seconds but new ones just keep recurring. It doesn't happen with the same message all the time, it seems pretty random as to it's choice. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hallo Tony, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:19:22 +0100GMT (10-10-2005, 20:19 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TB With certain message I keep getting this error, an Invalid Floating Does it happen with 3.61.11 too? -- Groetjes, Roelof I love animals...they're delicious! The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7ELSEu1uRr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A Few Questions
Hallo Randy, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 11:07:30 -0700GMT (10-10-2005, 20:07 +0200, where I live), you wrote: R 2. Is there any way to make PGP/MIME always stay on? It has three R options (Auto, On, Off) but I can't find a way to make them stick. Include these macros in your templates and you'll always sign with PGP/MIME: %UsePGP%- %PGPMIME%- %SignComplete%- -- Groetjes, Roelof Real SysOps hate authors of bad Shareware programs begging for money. The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpPxPITtSgpU.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: A Few Questions
Randy wrote: 1. In the IMAP Fine-Tune dialog, what does 'Auto-filtering' mean? I dug around the help file and the FAQ but came up with nothing. The help file hasn't been updated since 1.0 or so, it's practically useless. Don't bother opening it. 2. Is there any way to make PGP/MIME always stay on? It has three options (Auto, On, Off) but I can't find a way to make them stick. For some reason RITLabs refuses to make this option stick, which is very strange, since it is precisely what users would expect to stick, and it would cost about 10 minutes to program. You can work around this deficiency by manually inserting %PGPMIME tags into your message templates. Then, by default, this option will be on. However, if you put a message in the outbox, and re-edit it later, the option will be lost again. It sucks... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
Hello Dwight, On 10 October 2005, 16:51 you wrote: Just curious, why does one use a trash folder at all? I filter Spam into the trash folder as this seems like the most sensible place for junk (this happens server side using procmail.) Mail from unknown senders goes into Unknown... and messages that need reclassifying with sa-autolearn are put into Junk. Well, you did ask. :-) This reminds me of another TB! IMAP annoyance... not being able to select an alternative folder for Junk ($JUNK$.) -- As ever, .\\artin | ICQ 15893823 People create change... people constrain change. EDDIE OBENG'S THIRD LAW OF CHANGE___ IMAP Client: The Bat! Version 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) IMAPS Server: Dovecot | OS: Windows XP Professional (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hello Roelof, A reminder of what Roelof Otten on TBBETA typed on: Monday, October 10, 2005 at 20:37:23 GMT +0200 RO Does it happen with 3.61.11 too? It just did it with your post. I've not tried .11, someone said that was a no no as far as IMAP is concerned. Mind you, I'm seriously thinking of going back to all POP accounts so I can use The Bat because I'm struggling with it more now than I ever did. I don't seem to be getting on at all well with any version. I still get the no loaded error for 75% of posts I try to open. Do all IMAP users have to reboot in between virtually every message just to get them to display? I'm getting pretty depressed with this. It seems to be just me that's having problems loading and reading messages. I'll try .11 a bit later. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) :gentoo: www.gentoo.org Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 01:19 PM, Tony Boom wrote: If I leave the message in view the errors keep recurring at 8 to 10 second intervals. Anyone seen this before? Not me. That one is new to me. Are you running TB! in Windows or are you running it in a virtual PC environment on a Mac? -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Funny off-topic messages are always on-topic. pgp8n8VJWdw9v.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP: Empty Trash on Exit no longer works
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 08:03 AM, Feli Wilcke wrote: cannot confirm, here the trash folder empties each time on close TB. I failed to confirm this problem at work just now. I didn't have the same setup for this installation, but after setting it up, I saw the messages deleted just before TB! disappeared from the screen. I wonder now what has happened with my installation at home! -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Error: Keyboard not attached. Press F1 to continue. pgpbKrvJTloxz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hello Curtis, A reminder of what Curtis on TBBETA typed on: Monday, October 10, 2005 at 14:00:34 GMT -0500 C Are you running TB! in Windows or are you running it in a virtual PC C environment on a Mac? Yes. -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: I.F.P.O Error
10/10/2005 3:23 PM Hi Tony, On 10/10/2005 Tony Boom wrote: TB Mind you, I'm seriously thinking of going back to all POP TB accounts so I can use The Bat I use POP and let my home machine manage the mail. My work machine is set to delete mail when removed from trash. If I send something from work that I want at home I BCC myself. This gives me all the advantages of POP and some similarities to IMAP. One this is that it always works. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hi Tony, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:32:40 +0100 UTC (10/10/2005, 2:32 PM -0500 UTC my time), Tony Boom wrote: C Are you running TB! in Windows or are you running it in a virtual PC C environment on a Mac? T Yes. ROFL... now you sound like my wife... I had to go back to v10 because of the problems you had, as well as email taking more than 1 second to load, for each one! I also got one unable to load message on v11, and that was it for me.. -- Gary Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 02:39 PM, Gary wrote: ROFL... now you sound like my wife... I had to go back to v10 because of the problems you had, as well as email taking more than 1 second to load, for each one! I also got one unable to load message on v11, and that was it for me.. I haven't heard much from you and TB!. How are you holding up with it, keeping this latest beta/11 out of the experience. ;) -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...Reformat Hard Drive! Are you SURE (Y/Y)? pgpLSCDWnO7yz.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 02:33 PM, Paul Van Noord wrote: I use POP and let my home machine manage the mail. My work machine is set to delete mail when removed from trash. If I send something from work that I want at home I BCC myself. This gives me all the advantages of POP and some similarities to IMAP. One this is that it always works. Was doing that for a while. Then I tried IMAP, my only regret being that I took so long to change. ;) -- -= Curtis=- Using TB! v3.61.10 Echo (Beta) System Specs: http://specs.aimlink.name =-=-= ...90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. pgp2H5ibmQz0s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.61.11: Strange symbols in Message List
On Monday, October 10, 2005, at 18:21:13 [UTC+0300] (Monday, October 10, 2005 17:21 my local time) Denis Rybakov wrote: There are strange symbols alighted in Message List. Strangely enough some messages are showing normally, and some are not. TB! v3.61.10 showed all messages normally. Can someone confirm this? Yes it is confirmed (see the thread of 7th October starting from mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: I.F.P.O Error
Hi Curtis, On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:03:10 -0500 UTC (10/10/2005, 3:03 PM -0500 UTC my time), Curtis wrote: C I haven't heard much from you and TB!. I have been lurking, but still here, even during our physical move :)) I was sending some stuff directly to 9Val regarding the happenings, and then they were reported on the list before I had a chance to mention them there.. C How are you holding up with it, keeping this latest beta/11 out of the C experience. ;) It seems pretty stable actually (beta/10) in all aspects of IMAP, from opening individual mail, to folders, etc most of the aforementioned problems mentioned ad nauseam, over the last several months, have seemed to have disappeared. Of course, several areas of IMAP are still not covered yet, e.g. ACLs, etc. I am almost at the point where I feel I can move my efforts to testing other areas of TB!, as IMAP seems to have improved enough where I have some confidence in it again, save for beta/11. -- Gary Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
viernes, 7 oct 2005 at 16:59, it seems you wrote:
From 3.61.10 the Maintenance Window don't scrolls down automatically
when you press Start.
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Adventures with TB
Fifth attempt to write this message. The previous four ended in a locked and not responding TB. TB has been doing normal tasks so well lately that I thought I might look at some of the other things it can do. I saw in the folder context menu that I can move folders up/down and in/out. There are some folders at the bottom of the hierarchy that I would like to move up. TB did that without problem. I tried to delete the old container folder. TB gave an AV error it could not recover from. Close and reopen TB. I opened the Manage IMAP Folders window and clicked on Reset List. (opening the Manage IMAP folders window while writing a new message crashes TB) The Reset List function in this context duplicates folders at the lowest level. If there were 4 subfolders in an area, Reset List makes it 8. Reset List again makes it 12. I can delete one of the duplicates. This causes all the other duplicates to show a 0 message count. Close and reopen TB. Now all the moved folders show 0 message count. Clear Message Cache has no effect. I was able to recover from the mess by renaming account.flb. Among other undesirable side effect this caused TB to spend better than an hour retrieving all 12,000 message headers. TB was unable to complete this task without crashing. The whole retrieval operation was unnecessary. Mulberry is able to deal with this situation with no noticeable interruption of program usage. -- Gleason Using The Bat 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP build 2600 Service Pack 2 with Fastmail IMAP which has a Cyrus server. Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hello NetVicious, From 3.61.10 the Maintenance Window don't scrolls down automatically when you press Start. I didn't check with 3.61.10 but I confirm with .11 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Adventures with TB
TB has been doing normal tasks so well lately that I thought I might look at some of the other things it can do. I saw in the folder context menu that I can move folders up/down and in/out. There are some folders at the bottom of the hierarchy that I would like to move up. TB did that without problem. I tried to delete the old container folder. TB gave an AV error it could not recover from. I can confirm the inability of TB! to manage IMAP folders well. Further, I had similar experiences and frustrations with IMAP as you have had. Make sure your turn off all syncronizing options. You will still not be able to manage IMAP folder well, but at least you will be able to do work. Perhaps this turn off syncronizing should be a FAQ on TB!'s main page under IMAP. -- Best regards, John Thomas Using The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Adventures with TB
On 10/10/2005 at 6:13:42 PM [GMT -0500], Gleason Pace wrote: TB has been doing normal tasks so well lately that I thought I might look at some of the other things it can do. I saw in the folder context menu that I can move folders up/down and in/out. There are some folders at the bottom of the hierarchy that I would like to move up. TB did that without problem. I tried to delete the old container folder. TB gave an AV error it could not recover from. Close and reopen TB. I opened the Manage IMAP Folders window and clicked on Reset List. (opening the Manage IMAP folders window while writing a new message crashes TB) The Reset List function in this context duplicates folders at the lowest level. If there were 4 subfolders in an area, Reset List makes it 8. Reset List again makes it 12. I can delete one of the duplicates. This causes all the other duplicates to show a 0 message count. Close and reopen TB. Now all the moved folders show 0 message count. Clear Message Cache has no effect. You happened upon one of TB!'s problems. I'd suggest that you only do basic folder creation and moving folders up and down the list. Do not make one folder a sub-folder of another or the reverse. This leads to the effect you described. I was able to recover from the mess by renaming account.flb. Among other undesirable side effect this caused TB to spend better than an hour retrieving all 12,000 message headers. TB was unable to complete this task without crashing. The whole retrieval operation was unnecessary. Mulberry is able to deal with this situation with no noticeable interruption of program usage. For you to browse a folder, TB! needs to build a local cache of the message list. Mulberry doesn't have to do this, hence the difference. If you tell Mulberry to do what TB! needs to do, it will take longer than TB! does. Mulberry does far less for you to work. It's extremely efficient. OTOH, TB! is faster at retrieving the data than Mulberry. It's just that TB! retrieves so much information in order to get going. -- -= Curtis =- The Bat! v3.61.11 Echo (Beta) / http://specs.aimlink.name PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name ...The world is a cynic's playground. pgpLCwdf3F4tV.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Handling Virtual Folders
On Monday, October 10, 2005 @ 12:59:58 PM [-0700], Gene Kearns wrote: I can't figure out how to handle virtual folders after they are created. Can they be edited? Yes. Right-click, Properties. Can new message parameters be added to an existing virtual folder? Yes. Right-click, Properties. Can they de deleted... without deleting the whole folder? If you mean can the virtual folder be deleted without disturbing the messages viewed in the non-virtual folders...yes. -- Matt Current beta is 3.61.11 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
