Mod: DEAD HORSE (was: About release)
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Re: About release
Hello Thomas, M No, I'm just volunteering to do it once, proof the concept and teach you M how to do it :) No that's OK, thanks for the offer. It would just teach me how to use another workaround, and that was not the point of my message. The point was that workarounds shouldn't be necessary. As long as they are, I cannot recommend TB. No, I'm not suggesting or pointing a workaround. I am saying that a filter with a lot of ORs can be easily changed with an editor to a filter with alternatives. I am not suggesting to use one or the other, but I agree with Stephan that the one with 'alternatives' should run faster and be easier to maintain. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello Thomas, Yes. It's an idea, but it would be worth looking how other clients accomplish that. I don't think they add transparent headers. How do you know if they are transparent? ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: About release
Hello MAU, No that's OK, thanks for the offer. It would just teach me how to use another workaround, and that was not the point of my message. The point was that workarounds shouldn't be necessary. As long as they are, I cannot recommend TB. No, I'm not suggesting or pointing a workaround. I am saying that a filter with a lot of ORs can be easily changed with an editor to a filter with alternatives. I am not suggesting to use one or the other, but I agree with Stephan that the one with 'alternatives' should run faster and be easier to maintain. I agree with MAU. I think, the filters should be extracted, changed in an automatic way, as reimported. Next time, the 'use alternatives' instead of that many OR should be use at first. So, it is not a workaround. It is a suggestion how to the existing filtering faster. Or, we wish for a Optimize button on that screen :))) (Just joking :))) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello Stefan, M This was just let's say a 'concept suggestion' for Stephan which could M be implemented transparently to the user. Oh, I thought you wanted the user to use that macro. Macro is just another option for better flexibility (e.g. adding it to AB templates). As you know, some macro options can be set separately from template. I guess, the folder to store replies in should be set at the same page where reply template is located. I am not sure I understand your last statement but, if what you are suggesting is to somehow associate a specific folder to a reply template, I don't thing that is what most people requesting this feature wants. Because this would mean that no matter what folder you are at, if you use an specific reply template while at different folder, all replied would be sorted to the same folder. Again I am not sure I understood you correctly. I still think that my idea about a transparent header is not that bad and should be easy to implement. A single Common Outgoing filter (maybe included by default that the user has only to activate), that can be shared with desired accounts, could do the job. Perhaps a filter action 'Copy/Move to original folder' could be added or the existing Copy/Move actions include an option when selecting the destination folder. And I'll add something more. If the 'transparent header' was not transparent but just a special header, this would allow manual re-filtering of the Sent Mail folder. Just some ideas :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Common Folders
I'm sure that this has come up before, but I can't find the messages. Is there any way I can set the active account to be used when replying to messages when I'm in a common folder at the folder level? Or do I have to set at folder-level template and use %ACCOUNT to set it? And if I've got a folder-level template are my address-level templates going to be ignored? -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It is a good chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Bring your husbands. pgpOBSxcyuIi2.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
DateTime problems in combination with Daylight Saving
Group, I am experiencing a strange problem. I retrieved some message from a mailing list archive today. Some were missing in my mailbox, and some were duplicates. When looking closely at the duplicates I noticed something strange: the Date/Time of these messages is 2 hours different. We have changed from Daylight savings to regular time last weekend, so I can understand a 1 hour time difference, but two hours. An example message header part is below: Subject: Re: Outbound message causing network problems Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:27:10 +0100 When I first received the message we were at Daylight saving, and were using GMT+2. Now we are using GMT+1. The mail folder displays the following Time Created for these messages: Original Message (retrieved with Daylight saving on):29 Oct 2005, 11:27. Message retrieved from Archive today (no daylight saving): 29 Oct 2005, 09:27. If I export the old message to a MSG file and mport it again, it also shows the time 09:27. I really don't understand this. I could understand a difference of 1 hour, but not 2 hours. Ideally I would like to see the Date/Time column display everything in my _current_ time. Can anybody explain this, or is this a bug? -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.62.09 is now available
Hello Henk, I read in TBUDL that there are more users experiencing these AV's. Could you send me your tbuser.def from your TB! directory in private? I would give it a try, if that causes your problems. -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: DateTime problems in combination with Daylight Saving
Group On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 13:50:32 [GMT +0100] (which was 13:50 where I live) you wrote about: 'DateTime problems in combination with Daylight Saving' I retrieved some message from a mailing list archive today. Some were missing in my mailbox, and some were duplicates. When looking closely at the duplicates I noticed something strange: the Date/Time of these messages is 2 hours different. This are even stranger: The Message list displays for the old message 11:27, but the message header pane shows: 29 October 2005, 09:27:10 (Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:27:10 +0100) This is clearly a bug. I will report it at bugtrack. -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 3.62.09 on Windows XP.5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: DateTime problems in combination with Daylight Saving
Hello Robert, I retrieved some message from a mailing list archive today. Some were missing in my mailbox, and some were duplicates. When looking closely at the duplicates I noticed something strange: the Date/Time of these messages is 2 hours different. This are even stranger: The Message list displays for the old message 11:27, but the message header pane shows: 29 October 2005, 09:27:10 (Sat, 29 Oct 2005 09:27:10 +0100) This is clearly a bug. I will report it at bugtrack. Give us some time to evaluate the issue... It is not a TB! release, so dont hurry :)) -- Vili The Bat 3.62.08 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello Vili, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:47:42 +0100 GMT (02/11/2005, 17:47 +0700 GMT), Vili wrote: V Hello MAU, No, I'm not suggesting or pointing a workaround. I am saying that a filter with a lot of ORs can be easily changed with an editor to a filter with alternatives. I am not suggesting to use one or the other, but I agree with Stephan that the one with 'alternatives' should run faster and be easier to maintain. I see now what you mean. V I agree with MAU. I think, the filters should be extracted, changed in V an automatic way, as reimported. Next time, the 'use alternatives' V instead of that many OR should be use at first. OK, so I will try MAU's suggestion. -- Cheers, Thomas. A day without fusion is like a day without sunshine. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.09 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
BT System Signup
I keep trying to get logged in on BT. I created the new account but never get past: quote/ APPLICATION ERROR #12 This account is protected. You are not allowed to access this until the account protection is lifted. /quote Then I ask for password confirmation email. I get it, follow the link, end up at page to change password, make new one. But when I hit Update all I get is the account-protection errors. And I never get past this issue. Any help please? -- Regards, Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.09 Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello MAU, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 11:38:15 +0100 GMT (02/11/2005, 17:38 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: Yes. It's an idea, but it would be worth looking how other clients accomplish that. I don't think they add transparent headers. M How do you know if they are transparent? ;-) Good point. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Du kannst dir auch eine Frikadelle ans Knie nageln und so lange drehen, bis UKW kommt. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.09 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello Thomas, Yes. It's an idea, but it would be worth looking how other clients accomplish that. I don't think they add transparent headers. M How do you know if they are transparent? ;-) Good point. ;-) Aside of saying what you think, you also have to think what you say :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Large message (was:: 3.62.09 is now available)
Hello Thomas, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 08:57:22 +0700 GMT (02/11/2005, 08:57 +0700 GMT), Thomas Fernandez wrote: ST [+] POP URL is now stated in the notification about a large message ST arrived into POP mailbox TF And it works! Thank you. TF The mail despatcher opens in the background though. Like with other TF situations when I open the despatcher manually, I would need it to TF open in the foreground. Can you make it open in the foreground? There is another problem, more serious. I click on the first URL to dwonload the full message, keep reading messages, find another one that I want to download and a third and a fourth one which I want to download completely. The first one downloads fine, the second stays at waiting for dispatcher forever, all subsequent ones show no progress at all. -- Cheers, Thomas. How can I miss you if you won't go away? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.09 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BT System Signup
Hello Robert, I keep trying to get logged in on BT. I created the new account but never get past: quote/ APPLICATION ERROR #12 ... 50% of us or more have this problem :(( I cannot login there, but I could create a BT account, that I am utilizing a lot :)) Go to e.g.: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5256 You will see a Signup for a new account link on the top. Follow that link. I think, I used that link to make a BT account for myself. BT account and BETA account are two different things, if I know well. -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BT System Signup
Hello Robert! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 8:12 AM, you wrote: I keep trying to get logged in on BT. I created the new account but never get past: quote/ APPLICATION ERROR #12 This account is protected. You are not allowed to access this until the account protection is lifted. /quote Then I ask for password confirmation email. I get it, follow the link, end up at page to change password, make new one. But when I hit Update all I get is the account-protection errors. And I never get past this issue. Any help please? I suggest you write directly to Maxim Masiutin at Maxim Masiutin [EMAIL PROTECTED] . He helped me get enrolled and logged on a year or so ago. Sometimes the Bug Tracker gets temperamental about letting new accounts there work. Still, it's worth the effort to get there. It's the best place to get attention for bugs spotted and feature requests. When you do get logged in, note that there are two different types of issue reports--accessible with a little scroll-down box: TB! Issue Reports and TB! Wishes. HTH. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.09 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.09 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 14:02:03 [GMT +0100] (which was 14:02 where I live) Vili wrote: I read in TBUDL that there are more users experiencing these AV's. Could you send me your tbuser.def from your TB! directory in private? I would give it a try, if that causes your problems. Thanks, look in you mailbox. -- cheers. Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.62.09 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpD3TkHI3Fjk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: 3.62.09 is now available
Hello Henk, I read in TBUDL that there are more users experiencing these AV's. Could you send me your tbuser.def from your TB! directory in private? I would give it a try, if that causes your problems. Thanks, look in you mailbox. I already found the cause of he AVs and answered your mail :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.09 is now available
Hello Raymund Tump everyone else, on 01-Nov-2005 at 23:14 you (Raymund Tump) wrote: Confirmed. The user must have administrative rights to use 3.62.09. Not really, I always work with user priviliges. Now I created a a.htm file and gave it full access right s for the user account. Not the easiest solution for the average user, and I certainly don't go thru the hassle of manually creating files in order to get my email program to work! -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Our bombs are smarter than the average high school student. At least they can find Kuwait. -- A. Whitney Brown Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BT System Signup
Recently, Mary Bull squawked: On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 8:12 AM, you wrote: I keep trying to get logged in on BT. I created the new account but never get past: quote/ APPLICATION ERROR #12 This account is protected. You are not allowed to access this until the account protection is lifted. /quote Then I ask for password confirmation email. I get it, follow the link, end up at page to change password, make new one. But when I hit Update all I get is the account-protection errors. And I never get past this issue. Any help please? When you do get logged in, note that there are two different types of issue reports Thanks for the great info ! -- Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.09 Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: BT System Signup
Recently, Vili squawked: I keep trying to get logged in on BT. I created the new account but never get past: quote/ APPLICATION ERROR #12 ... 50% of us or more have this problem :(( indeed. I should play at gambling then because if there is a 50% chance, it will happen to me ! Go to e.g.: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5256 You will see a Signup OK -- Robert D. _ The Bat! Version: 3.62.09 Windows ME FireFox Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
a.htm (was: 3.62.09 is now available)
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 16:50:22 +0100 GMT (02/11/2005, 22:50 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Not really, I always work with user priviliges. Now I created a a.htm file and gave it full access right s for the user account. ASK Not the easiest solution for the average user, and I certainly don't go ASK thru the hassle of manually creating files in order to get my email program ASK to work! They just forgot to delete or comment out a few lines of code before the release of this version. Don't get all worked up, it's not a feature, just an oversight. -- Cheers, Thomas. Bahnuebergaenge sind die haertesten Drogen. Ein Zug und man ist weg. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.09 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 11:48 AM, you wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi Up and running well. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ___ I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, does this option exist elsewhere? Jon Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off. — George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 19:48:26 [GMT +0200] (which was 18:48 where I live) 9val wrote: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! -- Henk M. de Bruijn :-) __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.62.10 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgp7f6otFEDYk.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val, The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi [-] a.htm created [-] userdic.tlx overwritten ATTENTION: Unfortunately MSI doesn't allow to silently ignore file absence. It means that on update to .10 it will *delete* it. So you need to backup that file and restore it after updating. All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, 9Val wrote: 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ___ Is it just my system? With the 3.62 series, TB seems slower when going from folder to folder. Starting TB shows some delay and flicker on startup. Finally, opening and closing windows (address book, editor, search, etc) seem to be slower and have that flicker too. Did not happen before. Jon Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- If you're a younger person, you ought to be asking members of Congress and the United States Senate and the president what you intend to do about it. If you see a train wreck coming, you ought to be saying, what are you going to do about it, Mr. Congressman, or Madam Congressman? — George W. Bush, Detroit, Mich., Feb. 8, 2005 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, at 19:47:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 19:47 where I live) Henk de Bruijn wrote: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! I don't know why, but suddenly I had to think of 3.09.10, maybe 3.62.10 is as. -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! Natural E-Mail System version 3.62.10 Pro on Windows XP SP2 PGPkey at: http://www.biglumber.com/x/web?qs=0X11EECBEEB464DD0F Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org A progressive and innovative Web of Trust pgpzup2CdPC7l.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JP I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable JP message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, JP does this option exist elsewhere? Options/Preferences/Messages/Tabs and untick all boxes is what you want I think. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.10 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello 9Val, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, you wrote: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] userdic.tlx overwritten userdic.tlx was overwritten again. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:31:02 PM, Richard Wakeford wrote: RW Options/Preferences/Messages/Tabs and untick all boxes is what you want RW I think. Thanks Richard. That won't work for me since the All tab was introduced some betas ago. I did track down the problem and deleted the tbuser.DEF file. That restored the option to show or hide the message tabs. This is located under View. Now I have to rebuild all my customizations. Jon ___ Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- The ambassador and the general were briefing me on the — the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice. —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello all, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, Richard Newman wrote: Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 12:48:26 PM, you wrote: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] userdic.tlx overwritten userdic.tlx was overwritten again. please read 9Val's attention in announcement. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.62.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Marek, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 2:40:31 PM, you wrote: MM please read 9Val's attention in announcement. I did and it wasn't clear to me that this wasn't fixed when it said All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. I thought he meant live or stay and not leave or disappear or always be overwritten. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, I cannot remember, but wasn't an option present to enable/disable message tabs under view. I think this was present earlier. If not, does this option exist elsewhere? View/Message List Tabs. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JP That won't work for me since the All tab was JP introduced some betas ago. Of course, sorry about that. JP I did track down the problem and deleted the tbuser.DEF file. There have been a couple of posts talking of deleting that file solving problems. Maybe we should all do it ;-) JP That restored the option to show or hide the message tabs. This is JP located under View. That's the one I should have told you about, not the Options setting! you mean you didn't have it before you deleted the .DEF file? then I'm lucky because I have it although I'm not sure I didn't customise it and put it there when the Tabs were first implemented! Glad we're both happy now :-) JP Now I have to rebuild all my customizations. Maybe for the last time, fingers crossed. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.62.10 with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP uses too much bandwidth
Hello TBBeta, I experimented with The Bat! all day and even half a night, and it seems that The Bat!'s IMAP uses too much bandwidth during syncs and scans. I left TB running for 3 hours. During this time period I recieved 62MB of data from my mail server and only 2 messages (1kb and 1.5kb). Email is automatically checked and fully synchronized every minute. So this is ~350KB every minute. It is definetely too much. P.S. I have 12 folder with 10k messages on 1 IMAP account. -- Vilius Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Richard! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 1:51 PM, you wrote: I thought he meant live or stay and not leave or disappear or always be overwritten. He did. The key word here is subsequent, in the sense of coming after version 3.62.10. He was saying you would have to restore your userdic.tlx file after installing .10 because the msi would delete it, in .10. Then he says that v. 3.62.11 or .12 or whatever they offer you next will not delete it. Or overwrite it. This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my understanding of 9Val's words: 9Val in [EMAIL PROTECTED] : == [-] userdic.tlx overwritten ATTENTION: Unfortunately MSI doesn't allow to silently ignore file absence. It means that on update to .10 it will *delete* it. So you need to backup that file and restore it after updating. All subsequent versions will leave userdic.tlx to live forever. == All subsequent versions I take to mean v. 3.62.11 and its successors. will leave userdic.tlx to live forever I take to mean that from v. 3.62.11 this file will no more be overwritten. Not so? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Mary, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 3:09:19 PM, you wrote: MB This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my MB understanding of 9Val's words: Thanks for your translation. Guess we will see in the next iteration. -- Best regards, Richard Newman --- Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 on a Pentium 4 1.99 GHz Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Henk, The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi ...snipped No more AV's with this version. Vili advised me to delete tbuser.def So I did! I can switch between the English language and the Dutch language, even exiting the program without those continuing AV's!! So, v.07 and up was ok, just your tbuser.def was messed up... Why is a good question... :( -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Vili everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 19:48 you (Vili) wrote: I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... MSI is a Microsoft product... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Fun is like insurance; the older you get, the more it costs. -- Kim Hubbard Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Richard! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 2:20 PM, you wrote: MB This is the way in which the bug is fixed. At least, that's my MB understanding of 9Val's words: Thanks for your translation. Guess we will see in the next iteration. Yes. My fingers are crossed. This bug hasn't affected me, because I've never added any words to my dictionaries. But I see it as a big headache for those it affects. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Greg Strong everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 19:09 you (Greg Strong) wrote: How about a rar file download with either a direct link or on http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ or both? Since 3.62.05 the daily builds are not betas, but finals. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: a.htm (was: 3.62.09 is now available)
Hello Thomas Fernandez everyone else, on 02-Nov-2005 at 18:02 you (Thomas Fernandez) wrote: ASK Not the easiest solution for the average user, and I certainly don't ASK go thru the hassle of manually creating files in order to get my ASK email program to work! They just forgot to delete or comment out a few lines of code before the release of this version. Don't get all worked up, it's not a feature, just an oversight. I know, but don't you find it irritating that for a couple of days now every daily build becomes a final thats released to the public immediately? Going wrong with confidence... -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) de la Lastra's Law: After the last of 16 mounting screws has been removed from an access cover, it will be discovered that the wrong access cover has been removed. Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Jon, Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 1:57:24 PM, you wrote: JP Is it just my system? With the 3.62 series, TB seems slower when going JP from folder to folder. Starting TB shows some delay and flicker on JP startup. Finally, opening and closing windows (address book, editor, JP search, etc) seem to be slower and have that flicker too. Did not JP happen before. I've been tracking this flicker problem for a while. When the program starts, it redraws the screen twice. There is a bug somewhere but I'm at a lose to explain it. The graphics does slow down the program. Jerry -- Ethan J. Mings Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Hello Alexander, I dont understand it... silently ignore file absence. But userdic.tlx is actually there... MSI is a Microsoft product... It did not answer my question... or my silent thought :) -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
RW Maybe we should all do it ;-) Agreed, but it will not be a strong selling point for others wanting to come to TB from another client. Besides, re-creating customizations every time there is a problem is a pain. RW then I'm RW lucky because I have it although I'm not sure I didn't customise it Never customized it at all. Just lost it. RW Maybe for the last time, fingers crossed. Hope so, but it wouldn't be TB without some aggravation. Thanks again for your help. Jon ___ Using The Bat! v3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 -- I appreciate people's opinions, but I'm more interested in news. And the best way to get the news is from objective sources, and the most objective sources I have are people on my staff who tell me what's happening in the world. — Bush, redefining objectivity. Source: CNN, Bush 'Not Paying Attention' to Democratic Race: President Getting His News From Aides, Sept. 23, 2003 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP Connect To windows with cable connection
Hello Greg, After upgrading to v3.62.05 I now get a Connect To window for a dial up connection when I have selected 'Options | Network Admin | Local Area Network or manual connection' when focus is on one of my IMAP accounts. Yes I do have a dial up connection, but I use it only as a backup to my cable connection. I did do a clean install with the upgrade to v3.62.05 on the registry and program directory, but left the mail directory as is. To set up all the accounts all I had to to was name them and the rest of the stuff was there except I did have to select 'use specific settings' for the outbound SMTP server. Since this only happens when only 1 of my IMAP accounts has focus is this a bug? Any ideals? I did not quite understand, how to reproduce the bug. Once, like 2 months ago, a customer told me similar stuff: he had DSL, set LAN, but when he started TB!, that wanted to use dialup. We went thru his settings, nothing indicated to use dialup... So, how could I reproduce it? -- Vili Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
I recall participating in some conversation wishing that deleted messages were displayed, as in Mulberry. Perhaps another possibility would be a folder tab which showed deleted messages? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.10 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Splash screen background
miércoles, 2 nov 2005 at 23:00, it seems you wrote:
If this screen background should be synchronized with the time when
TheBat! is started - over here this doesn't work.
It's a random background. If I remember correctly there are three
differents backgrounds.
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Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 4:27:05 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: Perhaps another possibility would be a folder tab which showed deleted messages? I guess I mean message list window tab. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.10 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available
Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:48:26 AM, (Internet Time - @783) you wrote: Hello 9Val, 9 Hi All, 9 The Bat! 3.62.10 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-62.msi 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/thebat_home_3-62.msi 9 [-] a.htm created After installing 3.62.09 yesterday and after a spyware scan this morning, CouterSpy found a.htm and was calling it a Key logger Trojan. Well when I see anything that says Trojan, I delete it. I had never had this show up in the spyware scans before this morning. What exactly is a.htm anyway? Now that I know where I came from, I will be less sensitive about this file. But would like to know exactly what it is for. -- Best regards, Michael mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! Version 3.62.09 Windows XP Professional/5.1 Service Pack 2 (build 2600) on a Single/Athlon XP (Thoroughbred) Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Hello. Here's what Dwight [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed on Wednesday, November 2, 2005 at 2:27:05 PM: I recall participating in some conversation wishing that deleted messages were displayed, as in Mulberry. Perhaps another possibility would be a folder tab which showed deleted messages? I would much prefer deleted messages to appear crossed out until I expunge the folder. -- :R. Toast goes in the toaster. pgp5Z1OaeL4R6.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 4:33:28 PM, Randy wrote: I would much prefer deleted messages to appear crossed out until I expunge the folder. I agree, but the tab seemed like a possible substitute until then, and perhaps might be easier to implement. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.10 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP uses too much bandwidth
Vilius Ðumskas wrote: I experimented with The Bat! all day and even half a night, and it seems that The Bat!'s IMAP uses too much bandwidth during syncs and scans. I left TB running for 3 hours. During this time period I recieved 62MB of data from my mail server and only 2 messages (1kb and 1.5kb). Email is automatically checked and fully synchronized every minute. So this is ~350KB every minute. It is definetely too much. P.S. I have 12 folder with 10k messages on 1 IMAP account. A major part of the problem is the full synch'ing options. You don't have to do that. Doing it will be bandwidth intense. Disable synchronisation for your folders and have TB! check folder counts intermittently via the fine tune options. -- -= Curtis =- PGPKey: http://rsakey.aimlink.name -=-=- A life lived in fear is half a life lived. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?
these may not be considered 'bugs' on all fronts. i nevertheless feel they are worth mentioning. 1. TB ignores the 'default for mailto: urls' account assignment and instead creates a message in the last used account. to the best of my knowledge, this has never worked properly. 2. CTRL-DEL doesn't delete the entire following word in the the plain text (windows) editor. this worked properly in a prior version although i can't say which one at this point. 3. i sort messages by date descending and read oldest to newest (bottom up). the 'follow previous' toolbar icon loops to the oldest message in the list once the last new message has been read. to my way of thinking, TB should exit message reading mode at this point or pop up a dialogue indicating that all messages have been read. thanks/regards, .. -- Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: a.htm (was: 3.62.09 is now available)
Hello Alexander, On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:29:30 +0100 GMT (03/11/2005, 03:29 +0700 GMT), Alexander S. Kunz wrote: ASK I know, but don't you find it irritating that for a couple of days now ASK every daily build becomes a final thats released to the public immediately? ASK Going wrong with confidence... Yes I agree, it's irritating. -- Cheers, Thomas. There are a lot of drunk people about to drive home, so drive as fast as you can. It's harder for drunk people to hit you. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.62.09 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ongoing TB issues - bugs or features?
Hello Mark! On Wednesday, November 02, 2005, 7:23 PM, you wrote: 3. i sort messages by date descending and read oldest to newest (bottom up). the 'follow previous' toolbar icon loops to the oldest message in the list once the last new message has been read. to my way of thinking, TB should exit message reading mode at this point or pop up a dialogue indicating that all messages have been read. That's the order in which I read also, in a View Folder window. And I use the Follow Previous toolbar button to move up to the next unread message. Prior to v. 3.5, if my memory isn't too far wrong, the button would not bring up another message when there were no more unread messages. Instead, nothing happened--the currently viewed message stayed in the window. Then came a period with the new interface where the focus jumped randomly anywhere in the folder. At least, consistently now it goes to the bottom of the message list. For me, since I thread by none, this means that I always see the first message in my folder--which happens to be a TB! Welcome Message from 2002. Then (by now it's automatic), I click the Follow Next button and I'm back at the top. I would prefer the old behavior, where the window stayed open, focused on the last read message when there are no more unread messages left. I would find a dialogue box a distraction. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.62.10 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, 11:50:21 PM, Martin Schoch wrote: Hi Randy On Wednesday, November 2, 2005 11:33:28 PM you wrote: I would much prefer deleted messages to appear crossed out until I expunge the folder. I don't like such a delete function. If you delete a message it is deleted - they are in the Trash folder and if you want to really delete them you empty the Trash. You can use the trash folder if you chose. I don't, and would like to be able to view messages marked for deletion more easily. Even with POP, if you delete a message it is not deleted. Even though it goes in the trash, it is still also in the folder it was deleted from, until the folder is compressed. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.62.10 on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Dwight, On 02-11-2005 23:27, you [DAC] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: DAC I recall participating in some conversation wishing that deleted DAC messages were displayed, as in Mulberry. Perhaps another DAC possibility would be a folder tab which showed deleted messages? Best of all worlds: Include the following in View Mode setup: Fast search: [x] IMAP deleted messages This way, you could make a view mode and a tab if you want to. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.01 Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Dwight A Corrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] rašė: Even with POP, if you delete a message it is not deleted. Even though it goes in the trash, it is still also in the folder it was deleted from, until the folder is compressed. This bothered me so much since yearly days of 2.x. I don't like this behaviour too. If I have choosen to use Trash then I don't need another copy of deleted message in INBOX or other folder where message was deleted from, right? -- Best Regards, Vilius Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Best of all worlds: Include the following in View Mode setup: Fast search: [x] IMAP deleted messages This way, you could make a view mode and a tab if you want to. Peter This is not a personal comment (it would be if you were a developer!) but your suggestion summarises the problem with TB. It's easy to implement a 'crossed through' solution to deleted messages but Ritlabs have indicated they're not interested in doing that. Can you imagine a newcomer to TB, frustrated at the prog's non-standard way of seeing deleted messages stumbling across the solution you suggest? Difficult enough with an up-to-date help file but as it stands... Regards Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Clive, On 03-11-2005 08:45, you [CT] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: CT Can you imagine a newcomer to TB, frustrated at the prog's CT non-standard way of seeing deleted messages stumbling across the CT solution you suggest? Difficult enough with an up-to-date help file CT but as it stands... I am not sure what you mean? IMO they _should_ implement crossed though messages - but as an option, the trash folder being another option. Of course only for IMAP accounts. CT PS. You sig delimiter is broken :-) -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.62.01 Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP - viewing deleted messages, a suggestion
Hallo Vilius, On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:38:07 +0200GMT (3-11-2005, 8:38 +0200, where I live), you wrote: V This bothered me so much since yearly days of 2.x. I don't like this V behaviour too. If I have choosen to use Trash then I don't need another V copy of deleted message in INBOX or other folder where message was V deleted from, right? You're right of course, but you wouldn't like the time needed to delete a single message, because TB would need to write the whole folder to disk again and especially for the bigger folders that can take some time. V -- Your cutsign isn't working as designed, because it's lacking the trailing space. It should read dash, dash, space, enter. -- Groetjes, Roelof Evolution: God's way of issuing updates. The Bat! 3.62.10 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpm7LY5C05ju.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.62.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
